2018 Kansas Jayhawks Football Recruiting
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@justanotherfan I agree with you on keeping these kids. Like I stated earlier, now is when we find out about these players just really for sure how strong their bond is with Coach hull. - -I seen it mentioned multiple times, that these players look to Coach Hull as a father figure, how long they had known him.- - This guy is worth a million,Mike Lee is so valuable for us we have an open door to Louisiana right now. We shall see how strong of bond, these guys rally have. - -There is going to be an in-believable amount of pressure put on them from LSU - -Alabama Oklahoma - -all the big boys. - -We have just stepped into unchartered waters for us, we got down off the porch and runnin with the big boys, NOW we have to make sure we keep our big boy pants on and keep these studs sold on our program, we can’t let up - -have to keep in constant contact with them.
Just because they gave us hard verbals doesn’t mean we can now take the approach and say well we already have them and leave them in silence - -it’s right at a year before we can get them aboard on paper - -time to ROCK. - - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Love CCR…
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@justanotherfan Here’s the thing with Corione Harris and Devonta Jason. They were previously committed to LSU and both decommitted from there. They both already had offers from Alabama so Alabama has already called them. Those two still chose KU after being committed to LSU and having had Alabama offer them. Another huge factor in KU’s favor is those two were HS teammates of Mike Lee who helped sell both of them on KU. I’m legitimately not very concerned about KU losing either one of those two players because of that connection.
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I don’t have time to update at this moment, but KU landed another Louisiana kid today. A 3 star DT so I’ll update that later tonight.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 This one?
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/226766/nelson-jenkins
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@Texas-Hawk-10 he is Nelson Jenkins. out of plaqueminela Louisiana, 6’4 280 lbs defensive tackle.- -was listed as a 100% CB pick. - he had listed LSU< OU & Alabama. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Hasn’t even visited LOL this staff is on a roll.
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It is Nelson Jenkins I was referring to. I was sitting in line at a drive thru so I didn’t have time to post details. Jenkins is the 7th commitment for KU in 2018 so far and the 6th from Louisiana. Jenkins was actually not part of the group that was up for junior days and made his commitment without even taking an unofficial visit to KU. It was all word of mouth with the others who committed and Tony Hull is probably the early favorite to win the Broyles Award this year at this point for the efforts he’s putting into cleaning house in Louisiana for the Jayhawks.
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This is all phenomenal work from the staff. If their work on the field is half as good as the work on the recruiting trail, we may threaten for a bowl this season.
Okay, deep breath. Don’t want to run too far ahead.
This is awesome though, and could lead to some really big things. KU is getting the type of athletes needed to compete with Oklahoma, OSU, Baylor, etc. Granted, they won’t have this group on campus for another year, but it is a huge step in the right direction. If Beaty gets to four wins this year, I would be all for giving him a two year extension, as well as making sure that Hull gets paid what is necessary to keep him in crimson and blue.
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@justanotherfan Well they did just extend , Beaty’s contract not to long ago. Have to agree with you for sure , again just have to say this over and over, the thing will be to keep these kids committed to their verbals- -this is going to be a LONG SUMMER before next signing rolls around. - -we have to go through their Senior football campaigns and these big dogs at going to hit them hard - -hopefully their bond with Hull will with stand the pressure. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jumpin - -gee - -hoosa - -fats - -went back off the Louisiana boards, was watching Williams ( pooka ) he has been timed at a 4.27 forty - -that’s fast, and it shows in his highlights - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@justanotherfan Hold on to Hull for dear life. Recruiting another football state besides Texas is hands down one of the most valuable things we have going for us right now.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 RB Coach Tony Hull also now Associate HC. HC Beatty says his recruiting prowess speaks for itself. Hope that includes more money as all the titles don’t put food on the table.
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hmmm, ummmm, - -kind of funny - -just got off a site - -sound like some school to the West down the inner-state getting ready to wet all over themselves. - Can’t understand WHY the # 6 WR would ever wanted to come play for a mess like us lol., the another hmmmm, all these recruits all of a sudden want to go to that hole KU calls a stadium their fiacilities - -something fishy going on - -lmao - -can you say PARANOIA gotta love it, you think some one seeing the writing on the wall things about to change - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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K-State lives in a constant delusion. They believe that they are a power program when they have never been, nationally at least, anything more than a conference contender. Outside of the midwest, no one regards KSU as a football school. They aren’t seen as any sort of national contender or big time team.
KU has always had two major advantages to KSU in football recruiting.
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Proximity to Kansas City. Recruits at least know what Kansas City is and are familiar with the Royals, Chiefs, etc. That’s much more attractive than KSU or even Mizzou.
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Nationally recognized athletic program. Yeah, it’s basketball, but KU has a national brand that KSU just can’t match. You say Wildcats and people think Kentucky or Arizona before they think K-State. Even if you say purple Wildcats, people are just as likely (probably more likely) to say Northwestern as KSU. Because Snyder refused to step up his scheduling until recently, KSU missed the opportunity in the mid to late 90’s and early 2000’s to get more nationally televised games in the non-con. As a result, even when KSU was really good, they were only on TV outside of Kansas a couple times a year.
Those two factors make a huge difference when you look at the two programs and, as I have said before, if KU can ever right the ship with football consistently, it’s likely that K-State’s program falls off fairly quickly, especially since Snyder will likely retire if KSU’s edge over KU shrinks even a little bit.
The tide hasn’t turned yet, but this recruiting class definitely has the wind howling.
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@justanotherfan Very very true, My brother and I had fun with some - -ask them if they heard that sound? - -I said I think it was Synder telling them — ooops time to retire, I think I left the gate open and Bessy got out lmao, - -especially when he heard about Ku’s upswing lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Great Move by KU to give Hull a raise and promotion.
LSU fired their RB’s coach and this move by KU was very smart to avoid him bolting. Imagine all those Louisiana guys know seeing Hull at LSU…
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Props to The KU athletic dept, Props to Coach Beaty - -& props to Coach Hull for being Coach Hull. - -I read that we came within an eyelash of landing another huge recruit out of Louisiana I think his name was Brad Stewart maybe, he said he was real close to signing with JU before he signed with Florida- - I think If I remember right he is a 5 star linebacker. - - Nothing but positive things coming from hiring of coach Hull. – man wish I could go from 150,000 a year to 400,000 a year would be sweet. - -Hell wish I could make 150,000 a year lol - -ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY
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This just came across…
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@JayHawkFanToo I love this. It won’t last. But a top 25 recruiting class after a 2 win season would be amazing. And really speak to what Beaty is doing.
Recruits have a funny way of know what is bullshit and what isn’t. Weiss came in and had more to work with than Beaty did. But somehow Beaty is able to sell some of these guys on the dream. On being apart of something that is going to be bigger than they are. I think we really did find the right guy to lead our program.
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@JayHawkFanToo WOAAAAAA, how did we move up my friend, we haven’t added anymore after bing rank 9th - -whaaa happened lol. – Like said it won’t stay that way & you know I would be perfectly happy right now if we finished anywhere from 10-20 in the Nation, would still kick any other recruiting class I can remember for anytime, would kick any other right square in the butt, we say it won’t last BUT wouldn’t it be AWSOME and also funny as hel for other schools if we could keep that. Just think we add any other top recruits, might have a shot of staying maybe in the top 10 - -that would be AWSOME - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Kcmatt7 hey my friend, not sure whz up I look here at your 247 team rankings and YES they show us at # 6 in the nation - But the chart here on commits shows us with 7 commits, but I just looked of 247 and the charts shows us with 8 - -so did we just pick up another commit? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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HEY hell ya - - just answered my own question. - -We picked up our EIGHT recuit. - - his name is Cortez Crook Jones - -a THREE star Defensive End out of Grand view Missouri 6’4 230, so maybe that’s why we moved up. - -this has me so jacked - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@JayHawkFanToo Rivals now has us rated as the FIFTH best recruiting calls and 247 has us SIXTH this is absolutely nuts and I’m loving it - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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As @Kcmatt7 mentioned it is still early and once the big boys get done KU will probably drop some or a lot. Most programs will typically pick between 20 and 30 players per class so we are one third into the recruitment, it so happens that KU picked up some quality players early. When it is all done, I would be delighted if we are in the top 25.
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@JayHawkFanToo YA and I have no doubt we are going to lose some for sure, I mean that’s just being realistic - -BUT if we can hold fort not let it get out of control. - -Just really fired up, hard not too lol. we going to lose some, but like you say we going to add some and unless we have a 90-100 % de-commit I can’t imagine the bottom dropping out & like you say even if we end up having a top 25 class - -when is the last time we seen that? - -We go out and produce with that top 25 class, then things can only get better I feel – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 said:
HEY hell ya - - just answered my own question. - -We picked up our EIGHT recuit. - - his name is Cortez Crook Jones - -a THREE star Defensive End out of Grand view Missouri 6’4 230, so maybe that’s why we moved up. - -this has me so jacked - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Jumping Jehoshaphat this staff is on a roll.
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@BShark LMAO, exactly, you got it down lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I think KU recruits are solid and I don’t believe we will lose any; however KU needs to pick up st least 15-20 additional players to complete the class. If KU can pick up more recruits that are at least 3 star then it should be a great class but that is a tall order. I imagine KU will pick up an assortment of players ranging from 3 star to non ranked. Regardless, this has the look of a solid recruiting class and a big step in the right direction for the program.
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The only commit I have any concerns about flipping between now and December or February (there’s a new rule proposal that could allow all kids to sign in December) is QB Clayton Tune. I’m not concerned about any of the Louisiana kids flipping unless Hull gets a HC offer somewhere. Tune however did not have any other offers yet, but was drawing interest from UT, TAMU, and OU who could be possibilities to flip Tune if the decide to offer him.
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Well was checking the various sites before I retire and found out 247 sports has now moved us up to the # FOUR ranked recruiting class in the Nation – Sounds good, time will tell how it all turns out. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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While KU recruiting successes are being discussed nationally, I hope our staff is actively pursuing other highly ranked recruits who formerly were considered outside our scope of commitment. Right now is the time to land more top recruits for key positions. As our recruiting wave continues to rise, other recruits are aware of the groundswell of success and will be ready to join. I look for the KU staff to continue to land big names, perhaps even to add to the 2017 class.
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Crook Jones is in some ways just as big a recruiting coup as the Louisiana kids. KU has to recruit the Kansas City area to be successful. They obviously have to also do well in other areas, but they must do well in KC to succeed because that is their “home” recruiting base, along with Wichita.
The 2017 class had a couple kids from Wichita, but KU was basically shut out in the KC area. They don’t have any Wichita kids yet in this class, but they have landed a KC kid now. It’s important to keep KC and Wichita locked down because that is how KU will continue to grow as a program, locking down the home base, and doing well in Texas/Louisiana.
Crook Jones is also pretty athletic. He’s a pretty solid basketball player as well as (obviously) excelling on the football field. I always like seeing really athletic guys because that suggests an ability to adapt because they have more physical skills to draw on (good hands, coordination, quickness, explosive leaping, etc).
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Just have to kind of smile, while I’m kicked back reading over the thread today. - Kind of thinking to myself and saying - - When was the LAST time a KU thread concerning our FOOTBALL program, gotten this much hype - -attention? - - Kind of makes me tingly inside all warm and fuzzy, almost like the last time I got a extra large hot fudge sundae lol, - -you gotta love it - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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KU pipeline to Louisiana. Note in the story that 5 star DB Kelvin Joseph, previous LSU commit has announced plans to visit KU.
http://www.fanragsports.com/cfb/keep-an-eye-on-kansas-football-pipeline-to-louisiana/
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@brooksmd We think basketball recruiting is rough. I couldn’t imagine all the flip flopping and crap you have to deal with recruiting when you are trying to land 25+ guys every year…
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@Kcmatt7 Agreed. I think we’ll be able to hold on to most if not all. These kids could get something at KU they probably wouldn’t get elsewhere for 2-3 years and that’s pt if they work for it. And the more that commit the more they will look around at the talent and see that they can make something happen at KU. Besides, you know how hot and miserable it is down here for spring and summer practice? Hopefully those holding the purse strings aren’t expecting immediate results and will see the value in keeping the coaching staff happy.
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@brooksmd WOW are you serious? - -man I gotta contain my giddieness, ya I know just visit -see I can’t even spell the word lol,- - -Man I mean 5 star? - -when have we had a 5 star I’m sure we have but still pretty rare, would be really sweet, stop, stop I’m getting all my horses in front of the cart, I feel like a little kid in a candy store lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Texas-Hawk-10 This is a complete hint at what Beaty wants to do, compared to what Snyder has proven over time to be unable to do. (3 and 4star SEC-territory kids?)
Jimmies and the Joes, who can actually execute the X’s and O’s.
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We have some TonyHull “currency” right now, as well as some “just beat TX” currency to spend right now, and Beaty is…
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Did a little further background on this Kelvin Joseph, they show him like it said as a LSU commit. - - 247 sports has him as the # 35 ranked player in the Nation - -DB - -and I think 7th best DB , Rivals has him listed as the # 28th best player and the 5th best DB - -five star, Also on Rivals, their pod cast talks about KU’s fast start.
Talks about even if they don’t keep these kids - it’s still a positive sign for KU and this is a very noteable improvement for KU. - -They also talk about KU going with young coaches and they think how that is a positive sign that more schools need to go this route, you get some time check it out, their podcast is by Rob Cassidy & Nick Krueger - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@ralster hearing rumors that Snyder has some health problems?
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KU’s recruiting classes are currently rated 4th on 247 and 5th on Rivals. http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/2/5/14514510/kansas-4-stars-alabama-recruiting-rankings-2018
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Realistically, what’s going on right now with the early rankings is awesome and bringing positive publicity to KU football right now which will only help, but I hope everyone realizes that KU football is not going to finish with a top 5 or top 10 recruiting class this year in football. Best case scenario is that KU ends up top 25, but that’s probably only if KU can flip Kelvin Joseph. Realistically, KU probably ends up with a class in the 30’s which is still a huge step in the right direction for KU.
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I agree, we will not keep all these guys. Like they say though, the more Louisiana commits we get, the stronger the bond becomes and this group become more determined to make a statement, showing THEY are a big reason that helped turn this program around, plus a lot of these guys realize that they have a very legit chance of steeping on the fiend and contributing immediately, where as the go to the other Big time schools a lot of times they are going to have to wait their turn, and a lot of these guys would love immediate PT. We can thank Lee for this, he shows you have a chance for that here.
Even with us losing some on the other hand we still be gonna getting some others, I really feel unless we lose a big chunk of these more legit chance to finish in the top 20-25 worst case scenario, don’t feel as of this point that we wil fall into the 30’'s again unless we lose a large portion -and I just don’t think that’s gonna happen - - -ROCKCHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Unless KU adds a few more 4 star players, they’re not finishing with a top 25 class. We have three 4 star kids signed right now, last year the highest rated class with only three 4 star kids was Colorado with the 32nd ranked class and they had two 4 star kids. KU needs to get to five or six 4 star kids to have a realistic shot at a top 25 class. KU’s current class is shaping up to be similar in rankings to the 2009 class that was 33rd and had four 4 star kids in it.
This is a good class, and even if KU keeps everyone already committed, it’s not likely going to finish as a top 25 class without a few more 4 star kids in it.
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There’s 3 guys KU can land that would give KU a realistic shot at a top 25 class, but if KU doesn’t land at least 2 of them, the odds of a top 25 class are very slim. KU needs to flip CB Kelvin Joseph, needs to add WR Lawrence Keys out of New Orleans, and needs to land KC area kid Mario Goodrich. Those are the 3 most likely 4 star kids out there KU can land, but without at least 2 of them, KU will not have a top 25 class this year.
We also know KU will probably be adding some local 2 star kids in this class which will drag the rankings down because KS kids are rarely regarded very highly in recruiting so balancing out the 4 and 2 star kids will be key to keeping the ranking as high as possible.
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I’m overly happy with what we got - -well be just fine - -we’ll have a much higher ranked class then we have had since the stone age, top twenty - -top thirthy I’m not gonna complain , the league has been put on notice - as the said on the Rivals Pod Cast whether KU keeps these guys or not – very notable improvement said they don’t see how there could be ANYTHING but positive come out of this class - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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What? It’s Sunday morning and I haven’t seen a report of a new 4 star recruit announcing for KU. Did our coaches take the weekend off? If they did, it’s well deserved. Keep up the good work fellas.
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Just lost a 3 star commit from the other day.
