KU-IU chat here
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very true, he showed up, everyone else played when they felt like it
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Fb games lasting longer and now bb
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Probably starting 0-2, but there are things to build upon from this game.
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Oouch and now the long flight to the east coast.
I don’t won’t to be a downer, but if this our game plan to get by with only LUcas in the paint. Man this is going to be a long season.
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We haven’t opened the season away from Allen Fieldhouse since 2001. That was also in Hawaii, and also a loss. To Ball frickin’ State.
That season we went undefeated in the Big 12 and went to the Final 4. So let’s not get too concerned just yet.
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Lucas got a lot of credit for stabilizing our team last year…and stepped up his game after that whole mess of meetings between coach and ‘The Core’. But not seeing carryover and we don’t have the cohesiveness that thought we might see mixing experience and new talent.
Maybe IU with their offensive approach isn’t a bellweather for where we are against a more balanced approach team.
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@Bwag Devonte was out of control and fell asleep on defense on a key possession that cost us three points. His focus was not what I expect from an upperclassmen. Svi played pretty well. Carlton was better offensively and showed a low post game but isnt blocking out. We need to run more pick and pops with him for shot opportunities.
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@brooksmd WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH !!!
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@DoubleDD giving up?
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@cragarhawk I think some let it get to their head. Devonte has not looked focused even during the exhibitions
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Why no. Just stating the obvious.
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Tom Crean beat us excuse me while throw up. The good thing is its early. I was disappointed in the lack of effort on the glass, Self always says that’s how you tell if you played hard and outside of frank idk that we did. Well short turnaround boys lets hope we can beat duke but looking at our defense I’m fairly worried. 89 points let up wow
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As I said before. Lucky it’s early. Very humbling. Now maybe we can get past the hype and get down to business
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Well, maybe we won’t need to get any more recruits
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@HawkChamp saw Svi step away from defensive action a couple times too.
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well this team just missed shots period, so many missed bunnies, so many missed shots from guys that usually make them. some FT’s as well at critical times.
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Blackmon and that freshman were the key for them otherwise the rest of their team played like our other 7 rotation players
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15-32 threes for IU… tough to overcome that, and we almost did. Free throws kept us in the game.
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@BeddieKU23 that and Indiana made a lot of tough threes. Very tough to stop those
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Doke and Josh will get better, not sure about ll
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@Bwag said:
Lucas got a lot of credit for stabilizing our team last year…and stepped up his game after that whole mess of meetings between coach and ‘The Core’. But not seeing carryover and we don’t have the cohesiveness that thought we might see mixing experience and new talent.
Maybe IU with their offensive approach isn’t a bellweather for where we are against a more balanced approach team.
IU seems insane offensively. Shooters at every position. Crean puts a premium on it when recruiting, and rightly so.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I wonder if us losing these early season games have hurt recruiting, we lose about every year in the champs classic its getting a little old.
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@HawkChamp agree with that on Devonte. Thought he was actually more aggressive tonight though. Still room no question
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Yeah, Devonte is going to have to get back up on that edge again.
But it will be harder, because they are scheming on him, now. Last year he was the third option behind Perry and Frank. Now he is second option, maybe even first if he gets untracked. It will take a few games for him to get used to the increased attention. But he should adjust, unless he too is playing with unreported injuries, which it sure looks like. But I’m withholding judgement since folks said he was just battling cramps.
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@cragarhawk said:
As I said before. Lucky it’s early. Very humbling. Now maybe we can get past the hype and get down to business
Self would have rather had a win ofc but secretly he is a little happy.
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@BeddieKU23 said:
well this team just missed shots period, so many missed bunnies, so many missed shots from guys that usually make them. some FT’s as well at critical times.
Yep missed a lot at the rim. The curse continues.
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It’s like the spread offense in College Football. This is the new College Basketball. Self playing 4 guards is at least aware but late to the party
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@BShark agreed
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@BeddieKU23 Ya to me it was disappointing to see their freshman make fts while our senior bricked 2 huge ones not to put it all on LL but that was really what gave them a lead in OT. Rebounding, Defense and shooting 3 areas that we do better in one we win this contest.
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@kjayhawks well I don’t see Alabama going or Lsu or miss state or Washington… Etc
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@DanR Good take. We beat them in every stat except 3 pointers (we were 7/21) and rebounds (-11).
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yes those misses were disturbing as he didnt even come close on either attempt. froze under pressure
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@BeddieKU23 but hit nearly 79% FT’s…not terrible.
Offensive boards and 3pt shooting for IU were our achilles heel.
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So, I asked awhile back in the thread if anyone knew what became of @HighEliteMajor ?
It was OT, so maybe everyone was too busy.
Anyone have any idea what became of HEM?
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@approxinfinity Yep I been saying rebounds all night, not much you can do but put a hand in a guys face I don’t think we gave them a ton of open looks
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most of it from 1 player. FT shooting didn’t lose the game in my mind. Too many missed shots and IU made theirs
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@BShark yeah, guess we see why.
Don’t know that that wins % wise as more balanced, but sure can make for some big wins in big games.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I agree I’m glad we play a tough schedule I believe it help break the horses just wish we won a few more lol
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I can see why Coach wants to play the 4 and 1. Yet one problem they were still trying to pound the ball inside. Man I’m really confused and to tell you the truth a lot worried.
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@jaybate-1.0 Just guessing he got tired of the bickering his posts seemed to inspire. I always liked his stuff, well almost always. Maybe he’ll show up again. People come and go.
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@BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 said:
well this team just missed shots period, so many missed bunnies, so many missed shots from guys that usually make them. some FT’s as well at critical times.
Yep missed a lot at the rim. The curse continues.
Looks like we shot 50% from 2pt range to go with under 32% from 3. So does look like shooting % is down.
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@BeddieKU23 I can’t really fault the offense. 45% isnt great but that with the exceptional FTs was enough to get us 99 pts and put us in position to win most games. As much as the offense felt flat at times, it still produced (although the FT % is probably anomalous).
I hope next practice is all about defensive rotations, how to rebound, and how not to get fouls called on you.
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I don’t think we tried to pick and pop with Bragg all night. Bragg played well besides the fouls and a missed bunny. But for this team to maximize its potential it needs to plug Jackson into the game offensively and use Bragg as a outside mismatch. We didn’t do much tonight other than let Mason go wild, which he was terrific.
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@kjayhawks yeah, they were +11 on the glass. How many teams are going to make all those step back hand in the face threes? Most opponents would have struggled with that. If Duke doesn’t make 15 threes, we have a chance.
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@jaybate-1.0 And they still haven’t solved his cramping issue.
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@Bwag doesn’t help we have 4 hr games!
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Felt like they made as many 3s as we attempted.
I set my DVR to record an extra 30 min and still missed the overtime plus. Luckily, I have no desire to go back and watch the game.
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I just had a thought. We gave up 10 and 3 points. Maybe that had a lot to do with us losing this game. I can’t remember the last time we gave up 10 and 3 points.
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@BeddieKU23 yeah, I’m wondering about our scheming.
Outside of playing personnel changes 4-1, not sure I’m seeing anything yet that says we will use that to maximum effect.
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@approxinfinity said:
@DanR Good take. We beat them in every stat except 3 pointers (we were 7/21) and rebounds (-11).
Yepppp. Knew if we lost, threes would be the reason.
Also will say it again, post game talk pretty rational here. I don’t even dare load up the Phog.
