Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor
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@Texas-Hawk-10 in 2006 we actually went 6-6 and were bowl eligible. There just wasn’t near as many bowls as there is now. I wish this team only gave away 4 games, then we’d be 8-4 or 7-5z I hate to break this to you but this isn’t D3 football. We don’t have to argue but mark my words this will cripple this program for a half of decade. Hope the next staff can sustain success.
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@kjayhawks said in Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor:
@Texas-Hawk-10 in 2006 we actually went 6-6 and were bowl eligible. There just wasn’t near as many bowls as there is now. I wish this team only gave away 4 games, then we’d be 8-4 or 7-5z I hate to break this to you but this isn’t D3 football. We don’t have to argue but mark my words this will cripple this program for a half of decade. Hope the next staff can sustain success.
D3 titles mean Leipold and his staff had to identify and develop talent because the best athletes in the region weren’t banging down the down to go to a D3 school. Those players went there because they weren’t good enough players to play FBS, FCS, or D2 football and Leipold and staff had to develop that talent to maintain that level of success because those are the only 6 titles in that programs history.
And when transfer players are considering KU, they don’t just look at the overall record, they will look and see that KU was very close to being a 10 win team and has lots of playing time available. KU isn’t going to have the on field drop off you think they will next season.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m a grumpy asshole today but I just don’t have any optimism left ole friend.
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I haven’t done a state of the roster in a while. I’ll try to get one done before the portal opens so we can get the lay of the land in terms of portal needs. Also, the 15ish HS class was by design. Filling 30 senior spots with 25 high schoolers in this age would be a DISASTER
Also worth noting Borland only has a team option next season, no guaranteed money.
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People talking about hoping JD doesn’t come back baffle me.
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@wissox me as well. Want a full season of healthy Jaylon
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@approxinfinity said in Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor:
@wissox me as well. Want a full season of healthy Jaylon
Like always, it depends what your options are.
Unless a portal stud appears, JD seems to be our best option. That being said, I don’t know a thing about that freshman we had in the wings this year,
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Unless I am mistaken, I think JD was healthy this entire season
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Of course, I can wait til next September because I’d rather not skip all of spring and summer after we grind through this winter.
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@AsadZ but he didn’t have a previous healthy yr in front of him.
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@AsadZ dont think he trusted his body for half the season though
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@AsadZ said in Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor:
Unless I am mistaken, I think JD was healthy this entire season
Below the neck
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My question is whether JD can play better or what we saw this year is his ceiling.
How much of his play was impacted by injury versus new OC versus his ceiling.
Can JD make more accurate throws especially in the middle of the field?
Next year Neal will not be there so QB throwing the ball will be more critical.
By no means my suggestion is for JD to transfer, just throwing out some points for discussion.
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@AsadZ IDK, it’s fair to ask, but I’m really in the camp that the first half of the season was partly the new OC’s fault, and JD being rusty, and maybe even still trying to gain his confidence back. In the 4 of 5 game hot streak he played well. Should Lance be able to work the portal well, he may pick up some important pieces to add experience for new targets for JD and new linemen to protect him.
Not sure what happened to Hishaw towards the end of the season, but he’s a pretty good piece coming back.
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I’m curious about why this guy is sitting on the bench.
Isaiah Marshall
H.S. Athletic Background 2023: Had 3,114 yards and 39 touchdowns passing with 1,507 yards and 16 rushing touchdowns while leading his team to a state title.
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@nuleafjhawk he’s not ready yet. He’s talented but needs time. It’s pretty rare for a true freshman to come in and be effective.
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@FarmerJayhawk can you just stop with sensibility and rationality and let me have my way?
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@nuleafjhawk you’re the yin to my yang
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@nuleafjhawk said in Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor:
I’m curious about why this guy is sitting on the bench.
Isaiah Marshall
H.S. Athletic Background 2023: Had 3,114 yards and 39 touchdowns passing with 1,507 yards and 16 rushing touchdowns while leading his team to a state title.
Marshall was only a 3 star recruit so it’s not like he was expected to come in and tear it up immediately. 3 stars generally need a year or two before they start becoming ready to play.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 the “star” ratings aren’t Always the most reliable judge of a player’s ability. 55 tds and 5,000-ish yards in one season says something. He was recruited by a lot of too ranked teams.
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@nuleafjhawk said in Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor:
@Texas-Hawk-10 the “star” ratings aren’t Always the most reliable judge of a player’s ability. 55 tds and 5,000-ish yards in one season says something. He was recruited by a lot of too ranked teams.
HS football in Michigan isn’t the same as Texas, Ohio, Louisiana, Florida, or California. Michigan and Ole Miss were the only highly ranked programs at the time that offered. He was not someone they were looking at with the intention of starting from day 1. He was depth for each program.
Marshall may end up being a really good QB, but he was never expected to be at that level from day 1, including here at KU.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah. We probably would have wound up something like 5-7 with him at the helm. My bad.
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@nuleafjhawk said in Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor:
@Texas-Hawk-10 the “star” ratings aren’t Always the most reliable judge of a player’s ability. 55 tds and 5,000-ish yards in one season says something. He was recruited by a lot of too ranked teams.
A 100 percent true my friend look no further than our highest rated HS recruit in history that just hit the transfer portal DE DeShawn Warner. I believe he played in just 4 games for a 5-7 team with a sub par defensive front 7. Talib was 2 stars but made an impact instantly once he got to campus. Has multiple all pro and pro bowl selections. Same could be said for Chris Harris Jr. can add in our current duo of Mello and Cobee, both 3 stars that will be drafted. More 3 star rated recruits are in the NFL and NBA than 5 stars. Look at the dozens of BB recruits that were 4 or 5 stars that amounted to crap for us. You have to have a guy that can eye not only talent but potential.
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@kjayhawks said in Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor:
Look at the dozens of BB recruits that were 4 or 5 stars that amounted to crap for us.
Wait, I thought that was because Self is a crappy coach? Which narrative am I supposed to follow…is there a guide?
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@mayjay hahaha I think Self may have mishandled a few of them for sure (JR Giddens) but most of them like Omar Wilkes and Micah Downs were way over rated out of highschool
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@kjayhawks Giddens was a dumb ass while at KU who deserved to kicked off the team for that bar fight.
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@nuleafjhawk said in Finally Some RESPECT: Jayhawks Favored At Baylor:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah. We probably would have wound up something like 5-7 with him at the helm. My bad.
Marshall clearly wasn’t ready this season. Remember how awful Daniels looked as a true freshman in his limited reps? It was obvious that Daniels wasn’t ready at that point. There’s a reason why Leipold didn’t move Marshall up the depth chart until the last 4 games and why Leipold was looking at potential transfer QB’s had Daniels left. It’s clear by the staff’s actions they don’t believe Marshall is ready to take over as the starting QB at KU yet. Next season will likely be a battle between Marshall and incoming freshman McComb to see who takes over at QB in 2026 and the loser of that battle likely transferring out.
There’s not a chance KU would’ve gone 5-7 with Marshall at QB this season.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Bill Self himself has admitted he mishandled JR from the get go
