KU / Duke Takeaways
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU / Duke Takeaways:
@BShark said in KU / Duke Takeaways:
Analysis
Coit was pretty bad in all fairness and didn’t look playable against Duke. That’s the worst part of the Shak injury.
However we shouldn’t see too many teams with the pure size of Duke, which caused issues for Coit. I’m not trying to be too down on him, and it’s nice that we’ve been able to get 17mpg out of him.
Is Shak still hurt or re-hurt?
Funny bit of synchronicity, I met two people in the elevator on the way to the game last night:
Diggy’s representative and the ref who called the flagrant 2 on Hunter!
Same injury but he re-aggravated it I believe.
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@BShark rough. Hope he is able to be full speed this year.
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@approxinfinity said in KU / Duke Takeaways:
@BShark rough. Hope he is able to be full speed this year.
Really difficult now. They were talking about maybe getting him back by the new year. Makes it harder to mesh but he clearly has more of a P4 body and Coit. He has also already proven it at this level.
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I still wonder about the non-call on Maliq Brown. I’ve watched the play numerous times and clearly Brown was backing into Hunter while he was going up for his rebound resulting in the undercutting and subsequent pile up. Funny, a Sports Ill. writer wrote that Dickinson was rebounding over Brown’s back. What a dumbass. When Dickinson’s shot misses, Brown is under the basket and is bent at the waist, then backs two steps into Dickinson while he’s in the air rebounding. The pile up takes place 6 ft from where Brown started under the rim. I guess since KU won, no one is talking about Brown; only Hunter is being villianized. I’m proud of KU for rallying after the ridiculous ejection, but I sure would like to see more support for Hunter and someone calling out Brown for his instigation of the initial contact.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Can he drive and dish
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@drgnslayr I rarely rewatch games but I wanted to see how we survived the Hunter ejection. At the 3 second mark, they had added .3 to the clock so when the play started it was 3.3, not 3.0. During the TO Scheyer was talking to the ref and I’m sure he was telling him to watch for the time out. Pretty standard practice for coaches to inform refs they’re going to call for a TO to save a few precious ticks of the clock.
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If you watched UCONN take it’s third loss in a row last night against Dayton… you experienced Karaban make the same undercut that happened to Hunter. He was called for a flagrant 1. In our case, we have our big ejected for reacting off being targeted to be injured. This was a crime!!
@wissox Are you sure about that? I only saw 3.0 go to 2.9. I’ll rerun it and check.
Coit wasn’t effective because of the height and athleticism. But he will be valuable in other situations. I’m thrilled how our guys did against the height!
We seem to have plenty of SPARK on this team! Some of that energy has to be from running in so many players so everyone gets some rest. I hope we get Shak back soon!
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@stoptheflop that was the initial call. Brown fouls Dickinson. Then the fake grazing call made Brown’s foul disappear. The refs blew it all the way around. It was a blow job.
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@nuleafjhawk They did call Brown foul BUT it was just a common foul then they tore into Hunter
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@SlimShaddy54 I heard the announcers say Brown fouled, but I never heard the refs call it.
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@stoptheflop I’m pretty sure we didn’t get the ball or any free throws. Like I said … blow job
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Just back from Las Vegas!
We had a good trip. There were a zillion Jayhawks walking around. love that. I don’t get to say Rock Chalk very often out here on the West Coast. Everybody was fired up to beat the Dookies.
Getting into the game was a bit weird for my wife. They turned her away because her purse was larger than allowed. Oddly they also turned away a lady with a newborn and a diaper bag. So, she had to scramble to run across the street to the hotel to ditch her bag! I guess we don’t go to many events and had no clue that size matters!
We got there plenty early, so she didn’t take long to make it back.The atmosphere in the arena was just crazy. I’d say there was a slight Jayhawk lean in the crowd. Lots of Duke fans as well. But, you could really hear the Rock Chalk chants loud and clear. I may be a bit clueless, but do any other schools chant like KU does? Duke didn’t have anything but a subtle “Let’s Go Duke!” boo. The arena DJ had the crowd hopping.
One very weird thing about the arena…they didn’t really have a scoreboard. Weird. You know how it’s often placed on a wall here or there, or an electronic scroll. nada. They’d have it up on the big monitor thing sometimes as the game was on, but there were times i was like: how much time is left? What’s the freaking score? They did post some player stats in a few corners.
About the fans: Lots of happy Jayhawks everywhere. Plenty of Duke losers. We did lots of standing during the game. The Jayhawk fans behind us said that was pretty much the norm at the Fieldhouse. So, they were used to it. But, it was mostly because of “that guy” Duke fan. Just maniacal. Most of the fans around us were fine, but there’s always that one guy. Wore his Duke jersey, with no shirt underneath. Sister Hazel hat on backwards. SCREAMING profanities at the top of his lungs while standing most of the game. crazed. Cliche. Oh well, it was nice to see him weep when the game ended. Oh, and just to hammer on Duke some more…there was another totally classless Duke fan dude playing table games in our quiet little casino. Just making a top of his lungs screaming ass of himself. Everybody in the entire place pretty much kept turning around to look at him, wondering WTF was up. Jail soon?
Otherwise lots of camaraderie
So about the Hunter flagrant 2…we really had no clue what was happening in the arena when it happened. We saw him make an exceptional second effort rebound, fall, but that was about it. Seemed like a Duke player undercut him and should have been called for a foul. After a really long delay, they booted him. We really didn’t know why or what the hell happened. I have to watch the replay.
Dajuan was awesome. He did some crazy baseline dribbling that had me worried, but others have posted that they actually practice that.
Bidunga. I was honestly very worried about him playing, especially when Hunter went out. Didn’t feel any comfort when he dribbled the ball off his foot on a post up! But he stepped up big time. Love it. Oh, and that Duke center was HUGE!!!
KJ was by far the MVP. He pretty much shut down Flagg, except for that massive dunk.
And Storr started! WTF? Has coach said why? I thought he played great.
Zeke is oddly smooth with the ball. he shakes, stutters and finds pockets of empty space to make something happen. impressive live.
Hunter was way off his game early. Put up some bad shots. He kinda got in the flow later.
It seemed that momentum changed more than a few times after KU was up big. The crowd was buzzing, then silent when KU would hit a dagger.
And KU is still undefeated in Vegas with me watching! 3-0! I’ll take credit.
Rock Chalk
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@rockchalkjayhawk as a fellow west coast Jayhawk (moved here years ago but kept my old buckets moniker) I can definitely relate to not getting to say rock chalk here very often. But a nice surprise when I see someone wearing the gear (or they see mine). Not in the LA area are you?
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@StLJhawk said in KU / Duke Takeaways:
@rockchalkjayhawk as a fellow west coast Jayhawk (moved here years ago but kept my old buckets moniker) I can definitely relate to not getting to say rock chalk here very often. But a nice surprise when I see someone wearing the gear (or they see mine). Not in the LA area are you?
Yup, it’s always nice to see a Jayhawk out here for sure. I’m up in the Bay Area though. My folks lived down in SoCal for a long time, so i’ve spent lots of time down in the LA area. Rock Chalk fellow West Coaster!
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Nice! Wife is from Marin. Might have to try Vegas bball trip sometime, lot closer than Lawrence!
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@nuleafjhawk I think the reason we didn’t get the ball obviously or shoot FT’s was because of Hunters flagrant two ejection
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@SlimShaddy54 my point is Dickinson got fouled first so he should have gotten something.
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Non shooting foul on Brown was assessed. But techs get shot and Duke awarded the ball. If we were in the bonus we would have shot the FTs first, then Duke shoots them and given the ball.
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@rockchalkjayhawk Fun report! Weird that there really weren’t scoreboards around. Self had mentioned it at one point in the postgame.
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@wissox The main video board in the middle of the arena was showing the ESPN feed. Eventually in the second half at some point, they had a stats board come on the at least one of the corners of the arena.
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@wissox said in KU / Duke Takeaways:
@rockchalkjayhawk Fun report! Weird that there really weren’t scoreboards around. Self had mentioned it at one point in the postgame.
Thanks!
Did Self really mention that as well? Crazy. i’m guessing coaches need access to that info!
Oh, just to add to the fun trip report…
The night we arrived (as some of you did as well), there was a road rage murder at a casino ride share pick up zone. The already packed streets were basically shut down.
Also, on our return flight, things got weirder. We landed, hit the runway, and basically pulled over for 10 minutes or so. The captain gave us some b.s. excuse. We started moving closer to the gate, then stopped yards from the gate. more captain nonsense. We eventually pulled up to the gate, then instantly the crew came on the speaker saying NOBODY MOVE! we’re all like, huh? 10 minutes later STAY IN YOUR SEATS! DO NOT GET UP! now it’s getting crazy. Everybody is looking around for a terrorist or something. Odd phrases kept coming over the speakers: LINE 1. LINE 1. STOP. etc. we are all nervous and crazed at that point.
So, the captains are now out of the cockpit, looking weird near the front hatch. Moments later three cops come on the plane. at that point, we’re thinking we’re going to die or something. So, they stop midway through and point at a kid. then move to the back of the plane, passing us. And adding oddness to the already oddness: My wife says “Hey i went to high school with that cop” as he passes us.
So they chat with a dude with a lanyard around his neck in the back, then move back to the front and grab the previously mentioned kid, cuff him and take him off the plane.
Moments later on the loudspeakers: YOU’RE ALL FREE TO GO NOW! weird.
No clue what that was about. must have had a warrant on the kid or something, and knew he was on the plane.
So we exit and of course more cops are just outside the plane door.
I won’t even get into the weird guy who didn’t appear to live in our reality who was arguing with my wife about boarding numbers at the Southwest gate!! She’s like “I’m B18”… and he goes bonkers nutso. Oh, and he approached again after we landed! I gave him the evil eye and we scrammed before his reality melted in a bad way.
AND, we grab our luggage and vamoose out the front door of the airport as fast as possible, only to find cop chaos outside. A dozen cop cars and cops screaming and yelling at cars and people, with flashing cop cars lighting up the night. Such a weird return flight!
At least the Uber driver was polite…
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Good win for Kansas
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@rockchalkjayhawk you’ll have stories to tell! In fact, you just did!
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@rockchalkjayhawk Wow, that’s a flight story. I think the same thing happened to our football coach here in Chicago when the plane landed yesterday. If you don’t know that story you’ll have to look it up!
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The Las Vegas tournament is weird: Duke Kansas play first, then 3 and 4 days later both teams play the lower seeds in the tournament, Seattle U and Furman. I guess that’s why its called a showdown and not a tournament. I see that Furman played Seattle on Wedn and won. So, KU beats Duke for the chance to play the winner of the Furman Seattle game. Strange
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@stoptheflop said in KU / Duke Takeaways:
The Las Vegas tournament is weird: Duke Kansas play first, then 3 and 4 days later both teams play the lower seeds in the tournament, Seattle U and Furman. I guess that’s why its called a showdown and not a tournament. I see that Furman played Seattle on Wedn and won. So, KU beats Duke for the chance to play the winner of the Furman Seattle game. Strange
This isn’t a tournament. Furman and Seattle played right after the KU/Duke game. KU playing Furman and Duke playing Seattle was already scheduled before the outcome of that game since these are on campus games for KU and Duke.
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@nuleafjhawk he did get something , he got ejected lmao. just messin with ya bud , I hear ya
