KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win
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A throw with zero chance of getting a first down…
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Why are we throwing 5 and 6 yard passes when the line to gain is 8 plus yards on third/fourth down
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Good night fellas
Tough and frustrating game to watch
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JD 11-28 for 135 yards. Bad throws and bad decisions…
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Was that pass on JD or Grimes? Probably both. I am ready to see Ballard.
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@patoh3 said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
Was that pass on JD or Grimes? Probably both. I am ready to see Ballard.
100% on Daniels. Every route but that one was past the sticks.
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Not a lot of good to take away from this one. Onto Tempe
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No bowl game this year.
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The question becomes at what point do we make a change at either QB or OC? Like I said doing the same thing repeatedly while expecting a different result is insanity. We can not win games with the JD and Grimes combo against FBS competition. It’s been proven at this point.
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@kjayhawks said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
The question becomes at what point do we make a change at either QB or OC? Like I said doing the same thing repeatedly while expecting a different result is insanity. We can not win games with the JD and Grimes combo against FBS competition. It’s been proven at this point.
Daniels is the bigger issue at this point. His passing issues have severely hindered the running game in the second half of games.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 it’s both Grimes play calling hasn’t been worth a crap either. I’m just asking to change one of them and see what happens.
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There is the INT.
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Such a disappointing season.
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I believe now we have been outscored 55-17 in the last 5 minutes of half’s. If I’m not mistaken 10 of those 17 points for us were on Lindenwood.
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I have to start betting on Kansas to lose tho I doubt we will be favored again this season maybe Houston but I don’t see us making a bowl game after this. You had to beat UNLV and TCU to have a chance.
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@kjayhawks said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
@Texas-Hawk-10 it’s both Grimes play calling hasn’t been worth a crap either. I’m just asking to change one of them and see what happens.
We’ve seen KU move the ball effectively in the 1st half of games this season which is a sign Grimes is a competent play caller. When you have a QB that’s not effective and receivers not making simple plays, that allows opposing defenses to load up to stop Neal and Hishaw which in turn limits what Grimes can call because defenses aren’t worried about anyone other than Neal and Hishaw.
I’m not calling Grimes an all world OC, but he is competent and did win a Big 12 title as a play caller title 3 years ago. Firing him 5 games into a season and installing a new offense doesn’t magically fix the issues Daniels has been having this season. Daniels reads and situational awareness have been terrible this season so benching him would give KU the better chance to salvage something this season.
If Grimes were to be fired tomorrow like you want, who on the current staff gets promoted to that job and how does that address the issues Daniels has had this season?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree to a point but we also have too often on 2nd/3rd down with 2 yards or less to go passed the ball twice. I believe it happened 3 times again today. I think this one was really a team loss. Special teams gave up a score, offense couldn’t score from inside the 6 and the defense gave up huge plays all day long. I’m all in on benching JD
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*KU gives up a touchdown right before the half - again. *4th qtr collapse - again.
These players have to be feeling pretty low.
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@kjayhawks said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree to a point but we also have too often on 2nd/3rd down with 2 yards or less to go passed the ball twice. I believe it happened 3 times again today. I think this one was really a team loss. Special teams gave up a score, offense couldn’t score from inside the 6 and the defense gave up huge plays all day long. I’m all in on benching JD
KU threw the ball on 2nd or 3rd and short (3 yards or less) literally three times total in the game today. The first time was the second play of the second half on a 2nd and 3 and was a 12 yard completion to Arnold. The other two times were KU’s final possession with no timeouts left when running the ball makes no sense whatsoever.
KU’s other short yardage plays were a hand-off to Neal for 12 yard on KU’s second play of the game on a 2nd and 1. On KU’s second possession the only short yardage plays was a 2nd and goal from the 2 that resulted in a Devin Neal TD run. That’s it for the first half. Other short yardage plays in the second half were all running plays. Hishaw got the carry on a 3rd and 2 that resulted in a TD from TCU’s 8. Last play of the 3rd quarter was a 7 yard Hishaw run for a first on a 3rd and 3.
The facts do not support your claims and if you think I’m bullshitting you, go to ESPN and look at the play by play and tell me when KU threw the ball on a 2nd or 3rd and short in a situation where it didn’t make sense to.
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Fellas - this is why I am the way I am.
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@nuleafjhawk we are all products of our environments are we not?
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@approxinfinity I just can’t believe we went from being a very good team last year to such a bunch of turd suckers this year.
K State will beat us so bad that they’ll destroy the new stadium and we’ll just stick to basketball.
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Couldn’t watch because of ESPN+, but that was painful to listen to. Hanni must have said 20 times he eludes the tackler, about 10 times …receiver open…pass just misses…refs will rule this in our favor…ooh they missed that call.
This team has lost 4 in a row now that have all been winnable. This one it did sound like TCU was clicking on offense, but the replay reviews. One if they give it to us we get a first inside the red zone. The other we stop a drive that they’re scoring on. I just don’t know. Pretty disappointing.
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Sitting here this morning and thinking….Is it too much to ask to enjoy college football for Kansas fans? I’ve watched us get spanked by central Michigan on our own field and Toledo in person, two winless seasons and this season is #1 on worst feelings being a KU football fan. How the heck did we sink so far so fast? It’s just crazy will win another game is pretty the only question not answered at this point.
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@kjayhawks we were close to winning all those games. Seasons with big expectations going awry is pretty common. I think this season went from exceptionally good to average. Not exceptionally good to exceptionally bad.
Disappointing, sure.
But if anyone is being realistic, this program is still far far better than what it was before Lance.
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Yeah, I think this team is not as bad as the record shows. It can compete with solid (top 50) teams But its margin for error is close to zero. It’s not clear that we are good enough to overcome even one mistake in a game. Any bad luck (ahem, bad calls) and it’s over.
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@approxinfinity said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
@kjayhawks we were close to winning all those games. Seasons with big expectations going awry is pretty common. I think this season went from exceptionally good to average. Not exceptionally good to exceptionally bad.
Disappointing, sure.
But if anyone is being realistic, this program is still far far better than what it was before Lance.
@approxinfinity said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
@kjayhawks we were close to winning all those games. Seasons with big expectations going awry is pretty common. I think this season went from exceptionally good to average. Not exceptionally good to exceptionally bad.
Disappointing, sure.
But if anyone is being realistic, this program is still far far better than what it was before Lance.
@approxinfinity said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
@kjayhawks we were close to winning all those games. Seasons with big expectations going awry is pretty common. I think this season went from exceptionally good to average. Not exceptionally good to exceptionally bad.
Disappointing, sure.
But if anyone is being realistic, this program is still far far better than what it was before Lance.
Agree. - --Yet Some people just can’t seem to comprehend that— it doesn’t sink in. - - -we are way better shape then we were BEFORE Coach got here.
Thing is if Lance is NOW all of a sudden such a bad Coach then makes a person wonder , if he is that bad that we should fire him after five games into a Season --I wonder why there have been so many other Schools interested in him , and I’m talking legit Big Schools - -and to show his loyalty he said no, Just because he didn’t get the position doesn’t mean they weren’t interested. - -Depending who you were talking to, some said he didn’t get the job - -OR he withdrew his name.-- no matter they STILL made contact- -you meaning to tell me if h is a bad Coach these Schools still talkng to him ? – I think not.
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Am I just not paying attention? (It’s entirely possible)
I haven’t heard (or paid attention to) anyone calling for Lance’s head. Grimes, for sure. And several (including me) to have JD ride some pine. I guess I need to pay better attention.
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@nuleafjhawk said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
Am I just not paying attention? (It’s entirely possible)
I haven’t heard (or paid attention to) anyone calling for Lance’s head. Grimes, for sure. And several (including me) to have JD ride some pine. I guess I need to pay better attention.
ya you’ve misses it. maybe not on here but it’s out there plain stupid - -PERIOD
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@jayballer67 No one on here has called for Lance’s head. Thus the head scratching about the impassioned message that wasn’t really for anyone here.
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@dylans there were grumblings about Lance, stuff like “Andy K was the real mastermind” etc. Guess you will have to believe me, I’m trying to keep it on the rails
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@approxinfinity I have a few very negative folks blocked. Maybe I missed it, but everyone was calling for Grimes head (as @nuleafjhawk said), I didn’t see a single reputable soul on here call for Lance’s job, so the impassioned posts saying he should keep his job is seemingly out of place - unless he just likes Lance so much he’s gotta shout it off the rooftops. In which case good for you, but I see no pushback.
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Andy Kaufman routine (makes me wonder if KUballin is someone’s alter ego)
Now if you want pushback I say just go ahead and fill that godawful new stadium in with dirt. Who came up with that butt ugly design and then only figured out how to pay for half of it?!? Lol what a joke the football program is. Don’t fire Lance, no one wants the job!!!
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@dylans Well, hold on just a second…They could pay me half of what LL makes and I’d be happy. And I’m pretty sure I could carry on the proud tradition of KU Football.
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@nuleafjhawk Lofty standards, I’m not sure.
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@dylans yeah thats probably it. i dont block anyone.
And as far as jb hyping Lance against the naysayers, near to home or far afield, I love the passion, personally.
ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY!!!
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@approxinfinity I have found sometimes there is no good that can come from ME conversing with certain people and remove the possibility of inconveniencing others.
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@dylans hey no judgement here. I just cant do that as a mod. All good.
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Everyone just be grateful for the two years of fun we had. It is over now. Time to restart the rebuild from scratch.
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@Jhawk69 we put the fear of God in Lindenwood…
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@Jhawk69 sadly that’s what it looks like right now, 30 sensors on this roster. It ain’t getting any better in that new stadium next season.
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@dylans said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
@jayballer67 No one on here has called for Lance’s head. Thus the head scratching about the impassioned message that wasn’t really for anyone here.
no reason to head sratch I’m not limiting idiots to here - -KU fan base or so called fan base is a lot broader then just here
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@jayballer67 lol gotcha.
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@jayballer67 The “DaJuan Harris sucks” crowd might be calling for Leipolds head as we speak
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@Jhawk69 said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
@jayballer67 The “DaJuan Harris sucks” crowd might be calling for Leipolds head as we speak
LMAO - -boy that is SOOOOOOOOOOOO true, well said. you mean the REAL sports intelligent ones - -the arm chair Coach’s that NEVER LOSE a game or make a bad call , or decision. The one’s that sit in their over stuffed recliners - -Beer or whiskey in one hand and that king siz Hoagie in the others - -those one’s - -gotcha lol
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It really is amazing how many of our fans know basketball better than Bill Self
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@Jhawk69 and football better than the coach of the week.
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@Jhawk69 said in KU taking on TCU a must win - -must , must win:
It really is amazing how many of our fans know basketball better than Bill Self
Isn’t it though. I mean they are much better then our Hall of fame College Coach , who the hell voted him in ? - -bunch of clowns ,he only has two National Championships- - -won 14 straight Conference championships - -doesn’t develop players worth a tinkers dam - -and can’t recruit. - -I say let’s run him out on a rail and hire Weber roflmao
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I haven’t seen anything on firing LL at this point and it would be silly to do so. Juan is bad comparison Self really had zero other guards to turn to the last few seasons. I got a lot of grief on here for saying we ain’t going past the second round or a good team with Juan playing 35 minutes a game and turned out to be a very true statement. Juan statistically isn’t near a top PG here and he will have played an extra year.
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I was watching a podcast for KU last night and they brought up a point which I had been thinking about too , and I think it was a valid point.
They were talking about if JD 's passing game isn’t up to snuff - -I think they said this last game maybe was 48 % -so if JD’s passing isn’t cutting it -Then Grimes and CO need to make changes - - We should be utilizing JD’S–legs more.
Like was brought up-- -look guys what were doing is NOT WORKING - something has to change . JD’S passing up to snuff , and they also said our receiving has been horrible-- -other then Grimm -you put that together and you got a really bad recipe.
You have to make use of Jalen’s running ability , ya ya, I know better chance of him getting hurt - -understand that BUT also understand football is a physical it’s going to happen regardless. You have go to put your team in the best position to win and - - --right now Passing is not getting it done, and your gonna start seeing teams stack the box and say OK beat us with the Pass , cause you sure in the hell are not gonna beat with the run
Why aren’t we seeing more counter options- – more speed options ?- —when Coach K was here – constant motion - - formations- -defenses didn’t have a clue. - -We got the same personell -so wheer is our options ? - -something has got to give.
