Furphy
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I think it’s a simple calculus: if you are certain to be drafted in the NBA draft, and likely in the first round, you look at the salary and contract and say, “that looks like a pretty good career opportunity.”
He can always go back and get his degree. But the opportunity to be drafted and become an NBA player – no matter what team it is – is too good to pass up.
I try to imagine if it was in another field, like engineering, or business, etc. If Google/Tesla/Amazon contacted a freshmen engineering student and said "come work for us and we’ll pay you X million for the next 3 years with the opportunity to go up from there… Most would take that.
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@bskeet I posted in another thread arguing that physically he is not ready to play in NBA, look at his age, weight and physical strength, he is not ready for NBA’s brutal rigor.
It is known that real money is made in 2nd/3rd contract.
He can get picked in mid to late first round, but he will most likely be warming the bench or playing in G league.
After a few months he may be traded and move around before disappearing.
His parents seem to be doing well in the sense that he does not need money right away to support them, so even without NIL he can wait to get real money and get drafted much higher and have a longer NBA career.
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A question… what are the main drivers for Furphy and his family at this point? Hard to believe that a 19 yr old is that overly concerned about money and a burning desire to enter into a full time job. Is it lack of NIL $? Does he not like having to take classes?
He’s a basketball player. Basketball players generally dream of playing in the NBA. Furphy is good enough that he’s going to realize that dream after 1 season of college basketball.
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Again, I will suggest that the NBA should be allowed to draft and stash players in college. Let the Spurs draft him and pay him guaranteed money/NIL to keep playing for Bill.
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
Again, I will suggest that the NBA should be allowed to draft and stash players in college. Let the Spurs draft him and pay him guaranteed money/NIL to keep playing for Bill.
That’s literally what the G-League is for, to stash and develop players who aren’t quite NBA ready. A lot of people here need to get past their outdated views and stereotypes of what the G-League is. Literally over half the NBA right now has spent time in the G-League including many first round picks. Furphy will be better prepared for the NBA playing and developing in the G-League than he will at Kansas.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 agreed thats what g-league is for, but it seems that NIL has shifted the balance, with g league ignite going away. Would seem that a high profile college program with a difficult schedule offers several advantages that may work better for some, including not getting your ass kicked by grown ass men with a chip before your body fills out
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I can think of several others: public exposure, confidence, peers of the same age, other NIL, etc
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
Again, I will suggest that the NBA should be allowed to draft and stash players in college. Let the Spurs draft him and pay him guaranteed money/NIL to keep playing for Bill.
I like that idea. Just like baseball. Why not?
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
@Texas-Hawk-10 agreed thats what g-league is for, but it seems that NIL has shifted the balance, with g league ignite going away. Would seem that a high profile college program with a difficult schedule offers several advantages that may work better for some, including not getting your ass kicked by grown ass men with a chip before your body fills out
A player in the G-League on an NBA or Two-Way contract is making more than NIL. The Ignite team was essentially a select team that was invite only for a handful of top HS kids that could legally go to the NBA. Contracts for those players worked differently than the rest of the league as Ignite players made significantly less than the rest of the G-League and less than NIL. Their salary range was between $50-$150k. The quality of players they could land had significantly dropped in the last couple of years because of NIL.
Also, because NBA franchises, except for Phoenix, operate their own G-League franchises, the players are developed how that franchise wants them developed because it’s their own coaches and staff doing the developing. The G-League is also primarily made up of younger players under 25 so Furphy wouldn’t usually be going against “full grown men” on a daily basis, he’d be going against players under the age of 25 for the most part.
I’d love to Furphy come back next year, but at the end of the day, his and pretty all basketball players dream of the NBA, not college basketball. At this point, the G-League is a better option for long term development than college is for players.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Furphy:
@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
Again, I will suggest that the NBA should be allowed to draft and stash players in college. Let the Spurs draft him and pay him guaranteed money/NIL to keep playing for Bill.
I like that idea. Just like baseball. Why not?
That’s not how baseball’s system works though. In baseball, once you sign a professional baseball contract, you are no longer eligible to play college baseball anywhere anymore. You can be drafted and choose not to sign a contract and then still play college baseball, but once a player signs with an MLB club, they are no longer eligible to play college baseball.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 you make sound arguments. For many kids the g league route is probably a strong option.
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@approxinfinity In my wholesale HVAC business we call that “Tag and Hold”.
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Glad its not “catch and kill”
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Tag and bag.
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Speaking of said KC star writer…
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@Texas-Hawk-10 called it right. These kids will develop best in G-league. Hard to say that… but it is what it is.
First thought, makes me think basketball, as a game, is doomed. College basketball turned into a big mess of “grab all.” Meanwhile… pro ball has lost it’s appeal to a broad audience.
Then everything changed!
Is it shoe companies? NO
It’s the explosion of online gaming. Funny that players have to stay a million miles away from it… but who appears to be the new big sponsor of the NBA? Fanduel!
Online gaming is going to help support an audience pool.
Basketball is saved! Hallelujah! (sarcasm)
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From Yahoo Sports
The talk at the combine is that Furphy is possibly returning to Kansas for another year, but he shot the ball so effortlessly, it’s hard to imagine he didn’t leave with first-round interest after the week in Chicago. The 6-9 wing didn’t get a ton of touches during his freshman year at Kansas and shot 35.2% from 3-point range.
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Returning? Really? I’d be shocked, but very happy.
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Some of the boardds have him being taken 18th in the 1st round.—He is not coming back, being projected there
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Yea, i’d be pretty happy with that as well. Doesn’t sound likely to me though. Maybe our insiders have heard a few things?
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Who is saying that? Off with their heads!
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
Who is saying that? Off with their heads!
You don’t want the Aussie back @approxinfinity ?
Since we missed out on Kugel, yes please!
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He’s being crazy!
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Im just saying whoever said that is just clickbaiting you.
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
Im just saying whoever said that is just clickbaiting you.
Damn right!
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just assume he’s gone and if he comes back it’s a gigantic surprise
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
Im just saying whoever said that is just clickbaiting you.
I swiped the Furphy paragraph from the middle of the story below. Just a top player ranking. So, I dunno. Doesn’t sound far fetched as a topic of discussion. Even Self has said he’ll “probably” remain in the draft.
I selfishly want him to return!
https://sports.yahoo.com/2024-nba-draft-big-board-ranking-the-top-40-players-142413978.html
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Oh, and we still have two schollies to fill. obviously Bill’s waiting on something…
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Furphy:
Oh, and we still have two schollies to fill. obviously Bill’s waiting on something…
Probably start hearing stuff after Wednesday about potential targets.
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@rockchalkjayhawk good points. Im just being crazy.
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I would like to contribute to the Johnny Furby NIL fund with a 10 dollar pledge should he stay at KU.
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
@rockchalkjayhawk good points. Im just being crazy.
Doh! all in fun. it’s a waiting game now. Think Alex Galindo has eligibility left? I’d give him another shot.
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If Furphy came back, it would really help Aussie US relations. The Aussie govt should put together an NIL package.
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Very quiet on decision day.
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@bskeet still has 24 hours right?
Furphy has until 10:59 p.m. Central on May 29 to remove his name from consideration
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Deadline is 11:59 tonight. The one we need to be watching in Robinson. If he withdraws from the draft, it sounds like it will be a KU vs Kentucky battle for him.
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I think every one thinks it’s a fore gone conclusion that Johnny stays in the draft. The latest mock draft I saw on him was 13th to the Kings You can’t blame him if that turns out to be true. I don’t think if he is going to be piked 13th that him returning for us next year would improve his stock in next years NBA draft.
They say this year is a pretty weak draft class , another reason for him to stay in, cause if he comes back for another year at KU - -the Draft class might be a lot stronger and he might not be drafted aa high. Having said that it is kind of different that he still hasn’t come out and said he was staying in the draft -again pretty sure he is , but crickets so far.
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Deadline is 11:59 tonight. The one we need to be watching in Robinson. If he withdraws from the draft, it sounds like it will be a KU vs Kentucky battle for him.
Doesn’t look like he is being projected that high in the draft. I think he comes out but re-unites with his old Coach Pope at Kentucky. -Obviously all the Kentucky fan base think it’s a done deal he will be at Kentucky lol
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
@bskeet still has 24 hours right?
Furphy has until 10:59 p.m. Central on May 29 to remove his name from consideration
Ok… Once more, with feeling: Very quiet on decision day.
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@approxinfinity said in Furphy:
@bskeet still has 24 hours right?
Furphy has until 10:59 p.m. Central on May 29 to remove his name from consideration
Ok… Once more, with feeling: Very quiet on decision day.
If he stays in the draft can we sing this?
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Decisions are starting to trickle out. If I had to guess right now, Furph stays in and Robinson doesn’t
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Among others, Sears from Alabama, Love from Arizona, and Karaban from UConn have withdrawn from draft and returning to their current schools. Does Furphy have more upside than any of those three? Perhaps. Is he a better college player that any of them now? No.
But, we know the NBA drafts on potential - whether or not realized is a different matter…
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I demand Furphy or Robinson
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No Furphy news by now is probably not good news for KU.
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Furphy officially staying in the draft. KU Basketball just posted Furphy’s thank you message to Jayhawk Nation.
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Be great, kid
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Drat.
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Good luck to him
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Right now most places have him going from 15-20th so it’s really hard to blame anyone that goes in that first round especially in his situation with no NIL. I honestly think he could’ve stay and been a top 5 pick but no reason to risk that. Good luck young fella
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Very happy for him, but I will miss that happy, polite, cute and talented young man! I know he loved it here.
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I hope there’s another Jayhawk to take him under his wing!
