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@kuballin10 the Miller thing was a giant stain on his character, plus he put his hands on an opposing player this year.
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@kuballin10 @FarmerJayhawk Nate Oats is a douche on all fronts
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@approxinfinity it’s a good thing Alabama didn’t win. There ain’t enough Natty and Pabst Blue Ribbon for them people…
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@FarmerJayhawk Awe yeah somehow I forgot that already regarding miller
The push is douchey but not that big a deal in the heat of the moment. He used his finger up and just pointed him back to the bench. It wasn’t some two handed shove where he leveled the dude.
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@kuballin10 yeah the Miller thing alone is disqualifying for KU, we don’t need to scrape the barrel to find good coaches. To me that’s just one boundary you do not cross as a coach. It’s taboo for good reason
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And for clarity I’m not saying Oats is a bad coach or whatever, the dude can coach his ass off and I’m generally a fan of what they do, though I’d emphasize defense more. They’re so high variance now that they can beat or lose to anyone, I’d rather be more consistent. Play better defense, get more good looks vs chasing 3’s. Nobody with a defense as bad as theirs has sniffed a title in the KenPom era. It’s abundantly clear you have to do both at a high level to win 6 in a row
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@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self’s system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
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@nuleafjhawk said in Other bball games:
@approxinfinity it’s a good thing Alabama didn’t win. There ain’t enough Natty and Pabst Blue Ribbon for them people…
hmmm seems like I heard Barkley say that lmao-- oh wait I did lol
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@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self’s system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
Alabama got hot at the right time and got the best possible draw for their team in that they didn’t have a lot of strong defensive teams in their bracket, or slow paced teams. Alabama missed playing St. Mary’s who was the slowest team in the country, and they avoided Baylor who also played very slow this season. They also avoided an Arizona team that could actually outrun Alabama.
Alabama entered the tournament with more losses than KU did and not really any expectations because they, like Kentucky, had been absolutely atrocious on defense all season ranking 351st in ppg allowed and were actually lower than Kentucky in Kenpom’s defensive ratings.
Alabama’s run this year is what people mean when they talk about teams having a good draw.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self’s system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
Alabama got hot at the right time and got the best possible draw for their team in that they didn’t have a lot of strong defensive teams in their bracket, or slow paced teams. Alabama missed playing St. Mary’s who was the slowest team in the country, and they avoided Baylor who also played very slow this season. They also avoided an Arizona team that could actually outrun Alabama.
Alabama entered the tournament with more losses than KU did and not really any expectations because they, like Kentucky, had been absolutely atrocious on defense all season ranking 351st in ppg allowed and were actually lower than Kentucky in Kenpom’s defensive ratings.
Alabama’s run this year is what people mean when they talk about teams having a good draw.
No I know exactly what I meant. I mean they have good motion fluid , they don’t have a 7’1 sloth that clogs the middle and creates bad spacing with the players we had this year, I already know they had some luck- - -who doesn’t at some point ?- -Just like we did in 88 when w had the luck multiple times when higher seeds got knocked off before we had to play them in our bracket?-- -
Alabama was also just so way much more athletic then us, Hunter was a huge defensive liability on the permiter , Alabama lot better rebounding , yes I know they were small – just quicker to the ball, better quicker leapers, what’s Dickinson’s explosion 5 inches ? My God if he could jump worth a dam, the only reason he got half his rebounds was strictly height, not athletic ability, why was he so much better on defensive rebounds then offensive - -his offensive rebounding SUCKED
Thank GOD we didn’t play Alabama cause they would of beat our ass and took names later - - much , much quicker, lot faster tempo and with our depth situation you talk about gassed - -Agai sure they had luck of draw- -boto line though Alabama this year was a better team then we were hands down. - -love their movement, fluid none of this clogging up the middle.
I have No problem , none what so ever with a big like Dickinson posting down low, bu my God have some athleticism -Dickinson is vre non athletic - -like I have said all year he is a bad fit for this team, we were alot more fluid before he was here quicker - he is just slow
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@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self’s system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
Alabama got hot at the right time and got the best possible draw for their team in that they didn’t have a lot of strong defensive teams in their bracket, or slow paced teams. Alabama missed playing St. Mary’s who was the slowest team in the country, and they avoided Baylor who also played very slow this season. They also avoided an Arizona team that could actually outrun Alabama.
Alabama entered the tournament with more losses than KU did and not really any expectations because they, like Kentucky, had been absolutely atrocious on defense all season ranking 351st in ppg allowed and were actually lower than Kentucky in Kenpom’s defensive ratings.
Alabama’s run this year is what people mean when they talk about teams having a good draw.
No I know exactly what I meant. I mean they have good motion fluid , they don’t have a 7’1 sloth that clogs the middle and creates bad spacing with the players we had this year, I already know they had some luck- - -who doesn’t at some point ?- -Just like we did in 88 when w had the luck multiple times when higher seeds got knocked off before we had to play them in our bracket?-- -
Alabama was also just so way much more athletic then us, Hunter was a huge defensive liability on the permiter , Alabama lot better rebounding , yes I know they were small – just quicker to the ball, better quicker leapers, what’s Dickinson’s explosion 5 inches ? My God if he could jump worth a dam, the only reason he got half his rebounds was strictly height, not athletic ability, why was he so much better on defensive rebounds then offensive - -his offensive rebounding SUCKED
Thank GOD we didn’t play Alabama cause they would of beat our ass and took names later - - much , much quicker, lot faster tempo and with our depth situation you talk about gassed - -Agai sure they had luck of draw- -boto line though Alabama this year was a better team then we were hands down. - -love their movement, fluid none of this clogging up the middle.
I have No problem , none what so ever with a big like Dickinson posting down low, bu my God have some athleticism -Dickinson is vre non athletic - -like I have said all year he is a bad fit for this team, we were alot more fluid before he was here quicker - he is just slow
You believe whatever you want about Alabama to help you sleep at night. There’s a reason why Alabama still lost more games than KU did this season.
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@jayballer67 Yep! It seems as if a whole lot of other people had said it there would be national headlines.
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Lets go Gamecocks!
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@approxinfinity Boooooooooooooo!
Iowa rules!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 a Final Four appearance takes some sting out of those losses
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@nuleafjhawk tired of Clarks BS. Superstar foul treatment
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I’m going with iowa
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@approxinfinity yeah. And no other superstar players, men or women get preferential treatment
Whole teams get it, in fact.
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@nuleafjhawk said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 a Final Four appearance takes some sting out of those losses
Doesn’t change that Alabama was more lucky than good in the tournament and that it took until the Final Four for them to play a legit defense.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 sure it does. Are you telling me you wouldn’t be more proud of KU if - with the same crappy record - made it to the Final Four instead of going home on game two?
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@nuleafjhawk others do too. I dont root for them either.
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@approxinfinity I feel like you wouldn’t be feeling like that about her if she went to school 5 hours southwest of Iowa City. All the calls would be legitimate and correct.
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Ava Jones from Nickerson, right by hutch, a superstar, had signed w/Iowa when her family, minus her older bro were hit by a guy on drugs on the sidewalk. Her dad, a teacher, coach, super stud, played w/us in a tourney in Vegas was killed at the scene. Not before he shoved the young son out of the way. The mom and Ava were critical and both in comas for weeks. So many surgeries. Ava had a brain bleed, she did go back to school part time in a wheel chair. Kept having surgeries her mom too. They honored her schollie at Iowa. Don’t think she’ll ever play again.
one sad story! She did get to go to Iowa
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@Crimsonorblue22 that’s awful. Great of Iowa to honor her scholarship though.
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They were in Louisville for a tourney, the driver thought he was turning onto a rd, it was the middle of the block.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I can almost kinda understand that. I was recently in Louisville and the streets are laid out very strangely. Streets where you think there shouldn’t be streets. Alleys that look like streets, streets that look like alleys. This is downtown Louisville btw. I’m in no way defending the driver, just saying it’s not that fun of a place to drive.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self’s system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
Alabama got hot at the right time and got the best possible draw for their team in that they didn’t have a lot of strong defensive teams in their bracket, or slow paced teams. Alabama missed playing St. Mary’s who was the slowest team in the country, and they avoided Baylor who also played very slow this season. They also avoided an Arizona team that could actually outrun Alabama.
Alabama entered the tournament with more losses than KU did and not really any expectations because they, like Kentucky, had been absolutely atrocious on defense all season ranking 351st in ppg allowed and were actually lower than Kentucky in Kenpom’s defensive ratings.
Alabama’s run this year is what people mean when they talk about teams having a good draw.
No I know exactly what I meant. I mean they have good motion fluid , they don’t have a 7’1 sloth that clogs the middle and creates bad spacing with the players we had this year, I already know they had some luck- - -who doesn’t at some point ?- -Just like we did in 88 when w had the luck multiple times when higher seeds got knocked off before we had to play them in our bracket?-- -
Alabama was also just so way much more athletic then us, Hunter was a huge defensive liability on the permiter , Alabama lot better rebounding , yes I know they were small – just quicker to the ball, better quicker leapers, what’s Dickinson’s explosion 5 inches ? My God if he could jump worth a dam, the only reason he got half his rebounds was strictly height, not athletic ability, why was he so much better on defensive rebounds then offensive - -his offensive rebounding SUCKED
Thank GOD we didn’t play Alabama cause they would of beat our ass and took names later - - much , much quicker, lot faster tempo and with our depth situation you talk about gassed - -Agai sure they had luck of draw- -boto line though Alabama this year was a better team then we were hands down. - -love their movement, fluid none of this clogging up the middle.
I have No problem , none what so ever with a big like Dickinson posting down low, bu my God have some athleticism -Dickinson is vre non athletic - -like I have said all year he is a bad fit for this team, we were alot more fluid before he was here quicker - he is just slow
You believe whatever you want about Alabama to help you sleep at night. There’s a reason why Alabama still lost more games than KU did this season.
Thank you so much. I feel MUCH BETTER NOW since you have given me permission that I can believe what I want - -Yippee whew that’s a relief.
And you stick to the story of oh WEll Alabama still had more losses then KU did for this Season roflmao - -are you fricken kidding me ? Dam and I had given you some credit during the year, well guess everyone can be wrong sometimes - - can I take it back lol.
Do you really think that KU players and Staff are sitting around and patting themselves on the back or one another’s back and saying to others - -WELL Alabama STILL had more losses then us during the season - -do you realize how pathetic that sounds ? - -Holy shit. Ya that’s the goal, man was I ever off on what a teams Seasons goal was at the beginning of the season , I sure thought it was every teams goal to win the NCAA tourney and get the trophy----my bad , - so glad you set me straight on that -got it now, it’s NOT about winning the Tournament - - it about whether you end up WITH LESS LOSSES for the year then other teams- - makes perfect sense, how could I have ever not realized that - - Thank you soooooo much lmao
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can we move on from whatever this is?
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My men’s bracket sucked but just won my women’s bracket at the wife’s work place with over 200 entries. 3 of 4 final four right, championship game and champion picked right ranked in the 99.8% on espn. So many less upsets it’s really much easier to pick.
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@approxinfinity I feel like there’s been lots of Natty and Pabst Blue Ribbon flowing
Ok. I won’t use that anymore.
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I’m at 99.2 percentile in one of the ESPN brackets & 97 percentile in another - -not winning squat - -help me though picking U Conn
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@jayballer67 I’ll pick them too. That way they’ll lose!
Go Connies!
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In Vegas for work so plopped down a crisp $20 on UConn money line and posted up in the book for awhile. BOILER UP
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I may be wrong but I just feel U Conn is going to do it again–I just feel they better and actually looking at a 10 point win if not more.- - I just think with all the cuts they make, passing & movement, fluid they are just better. Could be wrong , should be interesting.
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I dunno Edet has that look of a guy that says - - I am not messin around, like he is ready to kick butt and take names , I dunno I just think U Conn gonna take it right at him - -time will tell
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Well , well , well good start both teams. what a match up 7’4 - -vs - 7’2
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Edey is playing with fire.
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Dam Edey is the MAN --dam, already 11 points - -couple of blocks, just muscling his way
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@patoh3 I don’t care for either team, but I’m pulling for Purdue.
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Uconn learning about the Edey whistle. @Crimsonorblue22 why no love for Purdue?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Same. On my hierarchy I have Purdue ahead of UConn. I don’t want UConn to have back to back. I don’t mind the players on UConn, but Hurley is insufferable.
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Sorry to put you on the spot Crimson, I just have always thought Purdue does things right, their fans are decent, high academic standards, no shenanigans that I can remember.
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Loves strong! I think we’ve beat Purdue a few times, anybody remember? I know they had a big guy I was afraid of and we did great. Hurley, ugh! Main reason.
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Love watching well played ball. Mercy like they said , thee is a reason Edey is the player of the year. - Edey , not only tall but Big/very solid
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Best I’ve seen Edey play.
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That’s why I don’t like Hurley! Coach K!
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Wow, an opposing coach goes out and confronts an opponent who’s walking off the floor? Not many coaches can get away with that.
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Edey looks good and already getting calls, I just turned it off. Edey travels often and constantly throws elbows with zero whistles. I honestly don’t care who wins. If Im Uconn, I let Edey work for his but make sure no one else gets anything.
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@wissox said in Other bball games:
Sorry to put you on the spot Crimson, I just have always thought Purdue does things right, their fans are decent, high academic standards, no shenanigans that I can remember.
Glenn (Big Dog) Robinson and his 45 tournament points is reason enough for me.
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Poor Hurley is crying on the sidelines.
