Bubble Watch
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@drgnslayr who have they played?
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@BShark Wisconsin won the 2nd national championship way back in 194o or 41. They’re a blue blood for sure!
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@wissox Quick search says one in the 40s and some really old ones. I don’t like counting the Helms ones for KU but I know that can be a point of contention for some.
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@BShark what in the heck, literally none of those teams are blue bloods. They could’ve showed how UNC, UK and Dook are all down
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I saw that earlier and was like what the actual fuck
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@BShark No I wasn’t counting the Helms, but they got one legit one! Interestingly I read a description of that game and it said UW used a strong defense and slow it down style in defeating Wash. St.
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UNC down 12 midway thru the second half in the dean dome.
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UNC didn’t NEED that win, but it damn sure would have helped their cause… This could have been a resume builder for them
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Can Tech play themselves back to the bubble or do they still needed a B12 tournament title? They have a favorable schedule coming up and could see them winning 4 of the next 5. This the only conference in America where every school has double digit wins. OU is the only team below.500 overall and that hopefully changes tomorrow.
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@kjayhawks tech is basically out. 12 losses puts them outside looking in no matter what imo. If they happened to find a way to win out maybe
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@Kcmatt7 said in Bubble Watch:
UNC didn’t NEED that win, but it damn sure would have helped their cause… This could have been a resume builder for them
Pretty crazy from being the # 1 ranked team in the Nation to being on the bubble and not even sure they gettin in - -I think they are o-8 versus quad 1’s - maybe that was another one of these pre tenders…
To me it looks like Bacot has taken a step back- he gets bullied around quite a bit , just doesn’t even look as good as he did last ur , still a pretty decent player but something missing
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@jayballer67 said in Bubble Watch:
@Kcmatt7 said in Bubble Watch:
UNC didn’t NEED that win, but it damn sure would have helped their cause… This could have been a resume builder for them
Pretty crazy from being the # 1 ranked team in the Nation to being on the bubble and not even sure they gettin in - -I think they are o-8 versus quad 1’s - maybe that was another one of these pre tenders…
To me it looks like Bacot has taken a step back- he gets bullied around quite a bit , just doesn’t even look as good as he did last ur , still a pretty decent player but something missing
They don’t have a Juan. They have mad bombers all trying to make isolation plays. Caleb shoots from 30 feet too much, and Davis doesn’t pass the ball like he did last year. Bacot looks disinterested to me.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bubble Watch:
@drgnslayr who have they played?
Sorry for the slow reply. For one they beat ISU at ISU… where we got smoked. They’ve won 5 in a row…
They play some of the best D in our league. Our best way to get our offense rolling is to turn up our defense and get some easy runouts or scores on their D before setting up.
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@wissox From the article, “Since the final week of the 2019-20 season, Kentucky is 35-31 against other power-conference foes (and is 35-32 if you want to include Gonzaga among the high-major opponents). From the start of the 2020-21 season until now, UK is 5-15 in its last 20 games against teams ranked in the AP Top 25.”
Yikes. I think we’d be in meltdown mode as well if places were reversed.
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I bet Indiana really appreciates this type of language… “fear of becoming the next Indiana…”
The real problems at Kentucky go much deeper than Calipari. He is the symptom. He’s a symptom they never should have caught and they wouldn’t have if they had the proper basketball pedigree within their university, fan base, and state.
So there is a basketball coach out there who can talk fast to recruits and get them to sign but has left a trail of allegations and NCAA troubles… he has never shown coaching prowess, just recruiting capabilities… I hope Kansas never dips this low when hiring a coach. I’ll be gone if they do.
Now they are stuck with the coach who can’t coach and he’s getting older and tired… and he is unmotivated because he has his nest egg. Few people are left buying into the used car lot sales pitch he is pitching.
Need I say “the honeymoon is over?”
Why is there such a level of hate now appearing in Lexington? Because the fans are being exposed to their own ignorance for buying into the pitch in the first place. Literally, everyone who knew anything about basketball warned Kentucky ahead of this hire and they made the actual commitment under a sheepish embarrassment… much like someone who breaks wedding vows because they are horny.
Shall I go on? I don’t think so. Why do I sound disgruntled? Because Calipari has always been one of the big examples of “find success without coaching ability, just recruit.” It’s never been good for college basketball or the players who wasted their short time in Lexington. Watch him coach in a game and his style isn’t flattering to players… it’s humiliating… he reminds me of Marsha at WSU.
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Meanwhile… back at the ranch… Classy Rick Barnes shows how it’s done at Tenn, after he escaped the madness of Texas.
I’m loving it and I’ll never feel too awful when we lose to a Barnes’ team.
Oh… let’s not forget to talk about Duke!
Scheyer is in a spot. I don’t know too much about his coaching staff below him but if he can’t match the coaching ability of K he will be exposed soon. I was never a Coach K fan, but I gave him the respect he deserved in coaching. It takes a coach at his level to handle a team full of OADs and find some level of success. I wonder if Jon is starting to realize that yet? Another thing working against him… I hate to say that D1 is superficial… but Jon is a little too cute to be a head coach. It takes ZERO convincing of crowds to associate him with being arrogant. I know that sounds like silly drama… but just watch as he ends up being more disliked than K in the coming years. Dislike turns to anger turns to chip. And I know you all don’t want me opening the chip can of worms today! lol
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@drgnslayr said in Bubble Watch:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bubble Watch:
@drgnslayr who have they played?
Sorry for the slow reply. For one they beat ISU at ISU… where we got smoked. They’ve won 5 in a row…
They play some of the best D in our league. Our best way to get our offense rolling is to turn up our defense and get some easy runouts or scores on their D before setting up.
just listened to a Boynton interview --he gives respect obviously to KU- -but talked about his dis pleasure of his team at half- - wants to run more thought maybe they slowed down to much , not sure who gonna guard Grady at that point anyways- a Anderson guarded Grady last time
We CAN NOT- - -CAN NOT fall into our routine of coming out of the gate slow like we have been - -that will get you in trouble for sure.- Like the Oklahoma game —good thing it was Oklahoma because we were horrible. Thank GOD so were they – we better be ready. - -Coach B talked about how Juan might be the most under appreciated / under valued in the Big 12 . Talked about how smart Juan was & how he ws so good defensively. - -We bette be ready- -it won’t be easy
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https://twitter.com/slancehoops/status/1625563382274265097?s=20&t=2Mzx2Uf881JnFUnrqrNqtQ
What would you choose?
I already know my answer.
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Always take the 1 seed
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@Kcmatt7 Really just depends on who’s in the bracket. Definitely been years where I’d rather play a 7-10 winner rather than a 8-9 winner.
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@kjayhawks i think statistically taking the 1 seed is a no brainer. About a 40% of 1 seeds make the FF.
Only about 20% of 2 seeds do.
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Yes… I’m okay if we just come out and play even with them for a while until we get them figured out eventually… but one of those horrendous starts where we go down 20 or so won’t work tonight!
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I’d take a 1-seed (usually)… but what matters most to me is who is in our bracket. We had a good bracket last year and caught some breaks with upsets and teams suffering with hurt players.
Luck plays a huge part in March… of course, we control our own destination but same is said for all teams.
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NCAA seems to like placing a blue blood at the 8 seed, much like UNC last year. I think they like the spicy 2nd round matchup of a 1 seed against a blue blood.
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@Kcmatt7 that is true but we have ran into some under seeded 10s before too. UNI had 30 wins and had zero logical reason to be lower than 6. They ranked 24th coming into the tournament.
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I’m staring to dislike the net rankings, they have St Mary’s whom plays in a garbage conference ahead of us currently while they have 2 quad 1 wins and 3 total games. We have more of both in the last 10 days.
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@kjayhawks said in Bubble Watch:
I’m staring to dislike the net rankings, they have St Mary’s whom plays in a garbage conference ahead of us currently while they have 2 quad 1 wins and 3 total games. We have more of both in the last 10 days.
NET ranking places way too much emphasis on margin of victory…
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NET is known to be pretty bad historically.
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@kjayhawks It’s nice you have to go back that far to throw that dig in.
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@BShark said in Bubble Watch:
NET is known to be pretty bad historically.
RPI was too good- they wanted something with fuzzy math.
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In all fairness - Kenpom ALSO has St. Mary’s ahead of KU.
I don’t feel like NET ruins the tournament committee seeding process, so I don’t really care. It is only one factor, and really meant as a tie breaker from what I can tell. I.e. UNC getting in over UK because UK lost to a Quad 4 team.
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I sure hope St Mary’s is either a 4 or a 5 seed in our bracket.
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@Jethro for sure just win and it don’t matter is what I say lol
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We have a DOUBLE BUBBLE.
Kentucky is in Starkville tonight in what is a must win game for both teams. Joey Buckets has MSU IN and UK OUT right now…
MSU is favored by 3. This MSU team is riding a 5 game winning streak and is much better than their 5-7 conference record. Kentucky just looks broken at the moment. One team feels like it is playing to get in, and the other is trying to stop the bleeding.
My brain tells me that Kentucky is going to snap out of it and go on a long win streak to finish the season. But I just don’t think they have guys that can guard well enough to do it. Cal refuses to make an adjustment on the way UK defends the pick and roll, and thus they continue to give up easy buckets at a high rate.
Should be a fun one to watch. One with a “March Madness” vibe to it already, imo.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Bubble Watch:
We have a DOUBLE BUBBLE.
Kentucky is in Starkville tonight in what is a must win game for both teams. Joey Buckets has MSU IN and UK OUT right now…
MSU is favored by 3. This MSU team is riding a 5 game winning streak and is much better than their 5-7 conference record. Kentucky just looks broken at the moment. One team feels like it is playing to get in, and the other is trying to stop the bleeding.
My brain tells me that Kentucky is going to snap out of it and go on a long win streak to finish the season. But I just don’t think they have guys that can guard well enough to do it. Cal refuses to make an adjustment on the way UK defends the pick and roll, and thus they continue to give up easy buckets at a high rate.
Should be a fun one to watch. One with a “March Madness” vibe to it already, imo.
I think alot of their problem is to - - it’s I remember when it was me – me - -me, all now about one on one – no team play just more give me the ball and let me show my moves - -most of those guys worried abut NBA 7 not the School/College. - -Kentucky just a lay over.- -Cal has put many in the NBA - -so their thinkng is take the year develop some screw the school , don’t even want to unpack their bags
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@Kcmatt7 Make or break stretch for UK, not even kidding.
After the MSU roadie they have Tennessee in Rupp, at Florida, Auburn in Rupp. Gotta think they need to go 2-2 there.
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@Kcmatt7 We’re all Bulldogs tonite. I admit I enjoy silently trolling Rump Rafters when they struggle and then lose. It’s a like a car wreck- not fun for them but you want to see how smashed up the cars are, so you rubber neck.
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@jayballer67 When you recruit to the NBA, these are the results you get. In 2015, they were 38-0 and got beat in the FF by Wisky. They had 7 future NBA players on that team. How many do they have this year? I think when Dook stepped in and demanded half the action from Nike, Coach Squid’s shelf life ended. And Tucky is left with arguably the worst x and o coach in the history of the game.
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@BShark said in Bubble Watch:
@Kcmatt7 Make or break stretch for UK, not even kidding.
After the MSU roadie they have Tennessee in Rupp, at Florida, Auburn in Rupp. Gotta think they need to go 2-2 there.
I think that is probably accurate… I think they need 4 wins these last 7 games to still have a hope. Anything less and I have to think they’re out.
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@BShark said in Bubble Watch:
@Kcmatt7 Make or break stretch for UK, not even kidding.
After the MSU roadie they have Tennessee in Rupp, at Florida, Auburn in Rupp. Gotta think they need to go 2-2 there.
They probably need to go 5-1 realistically because they only have 1 Quad 1 win so far and they have a Quad 4 loss. They need Quad 1 wins and have 4 of those games left in their final 6. Tennessee, @Florida, Auburn, and @Arkansas so realistically Kentucky needs to go 3-1 in those games to help their NET ranking while also taking care of MSU and Vandy.
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@Jethro said in Bubble Watch:
@Kcmatt7 We’re all Bulldogs tonite. I admit I enjoy silently trolling Rump Rafters when they struggle and then lose. It’s a like a car wreck- not fun for them but you want to see how smashed up the cars are, so you rubber neck.
Ha , you should see the K/State boards today - -OMG turn coats
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Discord in Blue Hell (read comments):
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2/12/23, 3:33 PM
Whatabatism only works for idiots. Duke sucks because they lost their career coach, UNC also sucks because they lost their career coach, us and Syracuse suck because we still have ours."
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@jayballer67 said in Bubble Watch:
@Jethro said in Bubble Watch:
@Kcmatt7 We’re all Bulldogs tonite. I admit I enjoy silently trolling Rump Rafters when they struggle and then lose. It’s a like a car wreck- not fun for them but you want to see how smashed up the cars are, so you rubber neck.
Ha , you should see the K/State boards today - -OMG turn coats
I’ve seen stuff like that, too. Freaking ingrates. Johnson’s layoff for 2 years is biting him in the butt, and Nowell’s lucky streak finally ran out. You gotta give them credit- they made it to the top 10 and actually beat us before it all fell apart… like I told them it would. They got to imagine what it would be like to be a KU fan for a few weeks, and now reality has pulverized them into a surly mood. Run off the coach? I say…run off the fans! And the Frans, too.
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@drgnslayr You really can see how good of a coach K was after watching this crap show. (Always knew Roy was legit!)
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Like so many UK games this season, they look like the better team. Yet they make dumb enough plays to keep the other team in the game
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I watch most of UKs games… I watch a lot of D1.
They have ZERO discipline. Sometimes I think the team only reacts when Tshiebwe screams at them… (he should talk, lol). They completely lack leadership. The only thing that ever bails them out is 1-on-1 play.
There are a few knowledgeable Kentucky fans and they will post something intelligent… then they get smacked down by the single-cell herd.
Makes me really appreciate the quality of our group here!
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@drgnslayr said in Bubble Watch:
I watch most of UKs games… I watch a lot of D1.
They have ZERO discipline. Sometimes I think the team only reacts when Tshiebwe screams at them… (he should talk, lol). They completely lack leadership. The only thing that ever bails them out is 1-on-1 play.
There are a few knowledgeable Kentucky fans and they will post something intelligent… then they get smacked down by the single-cell herd.
Makes me really appreciate the quality of our group here!
I would say Cal’s belief in Wheeler was the detriment to this team. Hard to win without a PG who is a leader.
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@dylans said in Bubble Watch:
@drgnslayr You really can see how good of a coach K was after watching this crap show. (Always knew Roy was legit!)
I mean, you don’t win 5 national titles in basically 3 different eras of college basketball by accident. Coach K knew how to adapt with the times in his recruiting and won titles when it was almost unheard of for anyone to leave before their junior season, he won in the era of players skipping college and he won in the OAD era.
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@drgnslayr I truly think Coach K, Roy Williams and Bill Self are all top 5 all time coaches. Jimmy B at Syracuse looks like a guy that got lucky one time we couldn’t make free throws and he had Melo.
