West Virginia Game Saturday
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KSU up by 4 with 38 seconds left and some igit fouls Baylor within 2 seconds Baylor makes both and fouls KSU who hit one out of two Baylor hits a three and tied with 13 seconds left. Geez. On to OT.
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Not really feeling the Tang
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@DanR feel the tang
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@DanR u feel the drew?
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Iām not a drew fan either.
Is Thamba getting worse?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@DanR u feel the drew?
Sounds like drinksā¦ Tang
Mountain Drew
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Baylor & KSU know each others play books and tendencies. Interesting to watch.
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Drew reminds me of koolaid
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Not a drew fan
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Bs call
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@Crimsonorblue22 ref show all over the big 12.
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Crazy
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Dumb/ball hog
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game overā¦
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Froze his own player with the sub. Lucked out
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Bill said MJ had back spasms right before the game. Thatās why he didnāt play tonight.
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@wissox said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
My sound doesnāt work with ESPN+ so Iām just guessing that WVU fans are booing about every 10 seconds.
iāve had problems over the years with audio messing up, and causing other issues. 99.9% of the time itās related to Dolby Digital Output. Find that setting and turn it off.
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19 FT attempts today. Thatās nice to see.
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@tundrahok starting to wonder about him. Canāt fake kidney stones though. He did say he didnāt have covid but coach said twice he did.
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@Crimsonorblue22 either terrible luck with injuries or saving face so he gets decent looks when transferring is my opinion.
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@benshawks08 the third option would be self has decided to use the Remy Martin strategy. Which is actually just the Malik Newman strategy. Keep a guy under wraps and then break him out on Feb March so no one has any tape on how to stop him. For a while I thought this was possible with rice. I donāt actually now.
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Game highlights for me -
I hope we are seeing a trendā¦ Jayhawk grit on the road! This game was never in question, even in the second half when down to two possession lead. Why? Because we maintained excellent composure! When they fought back we hit big shots and had defensive stops to prevent them from huge runs.
5 guys in double-figures? Are you kidding me? Weāve got such an even attack now even with a volume shooter like JWilā¦
Speaking of JWilā¦ his scrap, especially on the boards, needs to be recognized! Between him an Kevin we shouldnāt lose many boards wars. This is becoming more dominant as the season progresses because this team is BUYING IN to Self ball!
This is a perfect year to have the Big 12 be as tough as it is. I have no problem if we drop some conference gamesā¦ it should help us build a tougher team for March. Having a team that is starting to look like road warriors is a huge advantage come March. I just hope we hold serve in AFH!
This is becoming perhaps the most-satisfying team to watch under the Bill Self era! When we execute, itās a thing of beauty!
Gradeyā¦ what a weapon! We hang in games and then suddenly he pumps in a few treys and punches up our lead! Wow! And then another example where he followed his shot and rebounded! Who else does this in college basketball?
Bobby! Canāt stress his contribution enough! 18 minutes produced 5 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assistsā¦ He outright won a game for us early on this season and heāll win us more this year just by contributing throughout a game!
Pace of game? Does it matter anymore? We know we can run. We can also execute well in the half court!
Iām happy and I still see plenty of room for improvement between now and March!
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The passing is sensational. The value of the team is that all 5 can make winning plays, not one of them has to be the person that makes the winning play. Thatās very hard to defend.
KJ is averaging more than Dave was last year at this time. The team is better defensively, although still not as good offensively as last year. McCullar fits so well with what we do, having him next to Juan is almost unfair. The beauty of this team is we havenāt even scratched the surface yet.
Juan is realizing he can make 2-3 3ās a game easily, KJ is inventing new ways to score ( he tries to shoot but is guarded- he resets, creates some distance from the defender and sinks the 7 footer. Freaking BRILLIANT).
Gradey is just beginning. Theyāve tried to shut him down and heās figuring out ways to get open, and when he does, heās Larry Bird. JW has been slogging, but theyāre playing him too many minutes. If they give him 5 minutes more rest, I think the shooting numbers will improve rapidly. Bobby has been so good- he is a one man offensive machine, whether passing or driving to the rim. Just fearless and relentless.
Weāre certainly going to be tested in the best conference in the nation, but I still say our floor is 14-4 in conference.
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@drgnslayr said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Game highlights for me -
I hope we are seeing a trendā¦ Jayhawk grit on the road! This game was never in question, even in the second half when down to two possession lead. Why? Because we maintained excellent composure! When they fought back we hit big shots and had defensive stops to prevent them from huge runs.
5 guys in double-figures? Are you kidding me? Weāve got such an even attack now even with a volume shooter like JWilā¦
Speaking of JWilā¦ his scrap, especially on the boards, needs to be recognized! Between him an Kevin we shouldnāt lose many boards wars. This is becoming more dominant as the season progresses because this team is BUYING IN to Self ball!
This is a perfect year to have the Big 12 be as tough as it is. I have no problem if we drop some conference gamesā¦ it should help us build a tougher team for March. Having a team that is starting to look like road warriors is a huge advantage come March. I just hope we hold serve in AFH!
This is becoming perhaps the most-satisfying team to watch under the Bill Self era! When we execute, itās a thing of beauty!
Gradeyā¦ what a weapon! We hang in games and then suddenly he pumps in a few treys and punches up our lead! Wow! And then another example where he followed his shot and rebounded! Who else does this in college basketball?
Bobby! Canāt stress his contribution enough! 18 minutes produced 5 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assistsā¦ He outright won a game for us early on this season and heāll win us more this year just by contributing throughout a game!
Pace of game? Does it matter anymore? We know we can run. We can also execute well in the half court!
Iām happy and I still see plenty of room for improvement between now and March!
the ONLY crutch we have and only hope but the ONE thing that could end up being our un doing in the NCAAāS - is and we seen evidence of it in our only loss-. - -Is Length and Bigās We still have really no bench - e have to get more contribution /development from our bigs off the bench , this could very easily be our ending if we donāt get something from Udeh or Zuby - - just got to. - - Otherwise somewhere in the tourney we are going to run into somebody that will just end up eating us alive inside - -only shortcoming I see
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@benshawks08 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@benshawks08 the third option would be self has decided to use the Remy Martin strategy. Which is actually just the Malik Newman strategy. Keep a guy under wraps and then break him out on Feb March so no one has any tape on how to stop him. For a while I thought this was possible with rice. I donāt actually now.
Things are always possible until they arenāt.
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@drgnslayr said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Game highlights for me -
I hope we are seeing a trendā¦ Jayhawk grit on the road! This game was never in question, even in the second half when down to two possession lead. Why? Because we maintained excellent composure! When they fought back we hit big shots and had defensive stops to prevent them from huge runs.
5 guys in double-figures? Are you kidding me? Weāve got such an even attack now even with a volume shooter like JWilā¦
Speaking of JWilā¦ his scrap, especially on the boards, needs to be recognized! Between him an Kevin we shouldnāt lose many boards wars. This is becoming more dominant as the season progresses because this team is BUYING IN to Self ball!
This is a perfect year to have the Big 12 be as tough as it is. I have no problem if we drop some conference gamesā¦ it should help us build a tougher team for March. Having a team that is starting to look like road warriors is a huge advantage come March. I just hope we hold serve in AFH!
This is becoming perhaps the most-satisfying team to watch under the Bill Self era! When we execute, itās a thing of beauty!
Gradeyā¦ what a weapon! We hang in games and then suddenly he pumps in a few treys and punches up our lead! Wow! And then another example where he followed his shot and rebounded! Who else does this in college basketball?
Bobby! Canāt stress his contribution enough! 18 minutes produced 5 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assistsā¦ He outright won a game for us early on this season and heāll win us more this year just by contributing throughout a game!
Pace of game? Does it matter anymore? We know we can run. We can also execute well in the half court!
Iām happy and I still see plenty of room for improvement between now and March! Yes pace still matters - we have to play fast whether itās in the half court or making it a full court game. Itās exactly what happened against Nova in the final four last year.
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I am doubtful we will have another big guy mesh so well with our current starting 5 like KJ does. Doesnāt mean we wonāt need our bigs. Just means we have some level of depth. When KJ goes out we may lose some offenseā¦ may lose some of the speed on offenseā¦ but it is what it is and it is normal to not have an equal replacement. Weāve got several bigs we can turn to for help in any game. Hopefully, they will continue to improve and why wonāt they?
Will we have problems playing teams with size? Not so sure about that. Is the mismatch best on our side or theirs? Many bigs may not keep up with our pace. We beat a Duke team full of footers and did okay.
I think we just have to play to our advantages and do the best we can when dealing with mismatches. Weāve shown an ability to double-up D in the low post already, and we know this strategy has won teams with no height natties in the past. Why not us?
I think we need to get a bit more rebounding out of KJ then we have a darn good rebounding team, regardless of height! Alsoā¦ we now know Gradey is a capable rebounder, too.
We have resonable depth right now. Just keep your fingers crossed we stay healthy the rest of the year! That is the key!
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KJ might be opening Selfās eyes to future recruiting, getting more 6ā7, 6ā8 types like him that are super athletic to be the 5. You canāt teach what KJ has in him, but you can certainly go find something similar. KJ has made the offense dynamic because the narrative is no longer centered around this team not scoring in the post.
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And look how he scores! I can only think of Timme being another 5 who has as soft of touch in mid range.
How did you like that blow by speed of KJ in the clip on the KUSports article from the WV game?
The mismatch goes both waysā¦ for scoringā¦ one of the main offensive strategies is to get the other teamās big to guard a smaller player on your team because it is easy to create scoring space.
Granted, another strategy is to get your big man under the basket being guarded by a smaller player.
I agree with your assessment; KJ has made our offense dynamic in a new way!
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Yeah, we switch everything with KJ and thatās the one concern I do see is we do get our smalls guarding bigger guys under the basket. Think Bobby was in foul trouble in the first half because of that. Harris has been a target as well in the past. It doesnāt seem to happen a lot where teams take advantage since, we have venus fly traps waiting for entry passes etc but at times weāve been exploited there. Iām impressed at how Gradey, Kevin, & J Will can just wall up and make it difficult to score. KJās defensive activity has increased as well with his confidence blooming
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Most of the timeā¦ bad interior defense doesnāt start with being undersized. Thatās how it ends. Meaningā¦ if you have size you can sometimes makeup for other defensive mistakes.
In our caseā¦ KJ doesnāt have that option so his key is to not make those early defensive mistakes. What Iām talking about is footwork. Being able to stay in position while the opposing big hits you with his āshake-n-bakeā or whatever. Usually it involves some kind of pivot move.
The key for KJ is to use his speed (and brain) to hedge and anticipate properly in the low post. Most of this will come from scouting and watching opposing bigs on tape. Bigs play a predictable game! Also, KJ is small, but he does have strength and must use it to not get pushed around too much.
We could show a little weakness in March on those second games in the weekend when we donāt have time to prepare for a specific team. Maybe we face a big with great moves and KJ isnāt ready.
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@drgnslayr said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Most of the timeā¦ bad interior defense doesnāt start with being undersized. Thatās how it ends. Meaningā¦ if you have size you can sometimes makeup for other defensive mistakes.
In our caseā¦ KJ doesnāt have that option so his key is to not make those early defensive mistakes. What Iām talking about is footwork. Being able to stay in position while the opposing big hits you with his āshake-n-bakeā or whatever. Usually it involves some kind of pivot move.
The key for KJ is to use his speed (and brain) to hedge and anticipate properly in the low post. Most of this will come from scouting and watching opposing bigs on tape. Bigs play a predictable game! Also, KJ is small, but he does have strength and must use it to not get pushed around too much.
We could show a little weakness in March on those second games in the weekend when we donāt have time to prepare for a specific team. Maybe we face a big with great moves and KJ isnāt ready.
As you Said, even when you face a bigger team, specially in the post area, the undersized team is by no means helpless. Just use the same concepts that Villanova did in 2016 and 2018. I may be proven wrong in March, but I truly believe this team has the saavy and coaching to do something similar.
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@rockchalkjayhawk PCM should be used over DD unless you have a proper 5.1.
