KU/Tennessee Game Thread
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@wissox said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
Bill Self will never win another national championship. He doesn’t have what it takes.
/s ?
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@FarmerJayhawk he went against everything he’s ever said “if a guy isn’t ready in February I won’t play him in March” except he had no choice because of how bad certain players were. He played him and we won
The problem is how are we going to fix this?
38 points - hope we get to 50-55
Good D won’t stop great offenses
Either play the young guys and take our lumps or don’t.
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 erase it nah - Zuby will rebound he’s the best of the 4
Well not sure if you know or not but that 6’7 guy your talking about KJ is KU’s leading rebounder tonight - so ya lets take him out and put Zuby in. - -I know maybe Zuby gonna score more then KJ - -doubt it - sure Kj only has 4 points - but again leading rebounder this game and thats what we ARE talking about he has 7 rebounds and 4 points. -Right now it takes Zuby or Ernest 5 games to score 4 points. -& KJ much much better defensively then Ernst or Zuby is close to being. - -So really not sure what the hell your thinking is thinking we would be better with them in
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@KirkIsMyHinrich he’s got jobbed tonight just awful officiating
Games like tonight he got exposed with our start, leading the team in turnovers and that’s just him playing half of the first half and now he’s out.
He has to be Frank, devonte, tyshawn offensively for us to win a title. Last years team he didn’t have to do that.
9 ppg won’t cut it
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich he’s got jobbed tonight just awful officiating
Games like tonight he got exposed with our start, leading the team in turnovers and that’s just him playing half of the first half and now he’s out.
He has to be Frank, devonte, tyshawn offensively for us to win a title. Last years team he didn’t have to do that.
9 ppg won’t cut it
I don’t believe that you are a fan of Kansas basketball so
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich he’s got jobbed tonight just awful officiating
Games like tonight he got exposed with our start, leading the team in turnovers and that’s just him playing half of the first half and now he’s out.
He has to be Frank, devonte, tyshawn offensively for us to win a title. Last years team he didn’t have to do that.
9 ppg won’t cut it
9 points WILL cut it if the rest of this team does what it should do
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich he’s got jobbed tonight just awful officiating
Games like tonight he got exposed with our start, leading the team in turnovers and that’s just him playing half of the first half and now he’s out.
He has to be Frank, devonte, tyshawn offensively for us to win a title. Last years team he didn’t have to do that.
9 ppg won’t cut it
I don’t believe that you are a fan of Kansas basketball so
Still wondering if it’s HEM.
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An asskicking like this should have Bill contemplating some things that is for sure.
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@jayballer67 Bill hasn’t played rice all tourney and extended minutes now
Do the same with Zuby - we know what we have in Kj
This game is over is it not? Bills not even arguing with the refs anymore you can see he knows it’s done
It’s KU - title or bust and KJ at the five is great for half a game but not going to win it
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@kuballin10 that’s not even true. Eg Perry, Mario Little, and Silvio.
Amazing you still take Bill literally after all these years.
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@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 erase it nah - Zuby will rebound he’s the best of the 4
Well not sure if you know or not but that 6’7 guy your talking about KJ is KU’s leading rebounder tonight - so ya lets take him out and put Zuby in. - -I know maybe Zuby gonna score more then KJ - -doubt it - sure Kj only has 4 points - but again leading rebounder this game and thats what we ARE talking about he has 7 rebounds and 4 points. -Right now it takes Zuby or Ernest 5 games to score 4 points. -& KJ much much better defensively then Ernst or Zuby is close to being. - -So really not sure what the hell your thinking is thinking we would be better with them in
All but 1 of KJ’s rebounds are offensive tonight. He has only 1 rebound on defense. And this is a big problem for KU because KJ is the worst defensive rebounding big Self has ever had. KU absolutely has to get one of the other post players going because KJ’s defensive rebounding is an issue that has to fixed at some point.
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@jayballer67 outline it.
Jalen 20 ppg
Kevin 12?
Gradey 12?
Juan 9
Kj -6?
Total:57
This D doesn’t have a doke so we can’t hang our hat on it
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Well I guess KU won’t go undefeated for the first time in program history. Darn.
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This game is being played in the Bermuda Triangle
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@BShark said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
An asskicking like this should have Bill contemplating some things that is for sure.
It should, but it’s also November and Juan was inexplicably assassinated tonight.
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 Bill hasn’t played rice all tourney and extended minutes now
Do the same with Zuby - we know what we have in Kj
This game is over is it not? Bills not even arguing with the refs anymore you can see he knows it’s done
It’s KU - title or bust and KJ at the five is great for half a game but not going to win it
deal with it -KJ is what we got not - -you don’t have to be here if you don’t like how Bill Coachs - I think I’ll trust him a little more with his experience then you thanks
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@dylans said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
Well I guess KU won’t go undefeated for the first time in program history. Darn.
I know right - -think I’ll just have a stroke
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Gradey needs to figure out how to move without the ball to get open.
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 outline it.
Jalen 20 ppg
Kevin 12?
Gradey 12?
Juan 9
Kj -6?
Total:57
This D doesn’t have a doke so we can’t hang our hat on it
AND ? what the hell is your point exactly. - you telling me we have scoring machines on the bench - -if we do PLEASE let us know so we can relay to Bill
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@FarmerJayhawk I mean I wouldn’t as a coach put that weight on a kids shoulders if I was not being literal
Mj had a chance there to cut it to 9 Then they hit the 3
That was our chance not enough firepower to keep up with the big dogs
Texas Baylor KU
This year
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@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 outline it.
Jalen 20 ppg
Kevin 12?
Gradey 12?
Juan 9
Kj -6?
Total:57
This D doesn’t have a doke so we can’t hang our hat on it
AND ? what the hell is your point exactly. - you telling me we have scoring machines on the bench - -if we do PLEASE let us know so we can relay to Bill
Only it’s Jalen 23- - - Grady 18 - - - KJ 6 so oooops
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@jayballer67 you forget your own posts? Put the bottle down man
You said 9 ppg from Juan would cut it
I outlined how that only gets us 57 points in reality which ain’t winning many games this year against real competition
So your theory that 9 ppg Juan is enough I “outlined it” for you that the math doesn’t work. Dude has to score more
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@jayballer67 how’s that work tonight against legit d1 competition?
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@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 outline it.
Jalen 20 ppg
Kevin 12?
Gradey 12?
Juan 9
Kj -6?
Total:57
This D doesn’t have a doke so we can’t hang our hat on it
AND ? what the hell is your point exactly. - you telling me we have scoring machines on the bench - -if we do PLEASE let us know so we can relay to Bill
The point is we don’t and playing starters 35 minutes a night isn’t going to develop a bench either so when Wilson and/or Dick have an off night like tonight, KU is going to struggle to win games and will have to play low possession games in the 50’s which helps keep other teams in games and if they play well, lead to blow outs like tonight.
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As much as this sucks it’s good for us
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 you forget your own posts? Put the bottle down man
You said 9 ppg from Juan would cut it
I outlined how that only gets us 57 points in reality which ain’t winning many games this year against real competition
So your theory that 9 ppg Juan is enough I “outlined it” for you that the math doesn’t work. Dude has to score more
Man I’m done with you -you talking just trash - -nothing worth while you just trollin - - go boot scootin boggie down in the intestate to waterville I’m done
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@kuballin10 if only there was some record that suggests Bill’s approach works
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@Texas-Hawk-10 somebody coaches and gets it
See tonight against a real team and what happens those three guys are 7,11,7 - graphic just for you bud I texted my buddy at espn for ya
Haha Jank is in Self is waiving the white flag
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@jayballer67 the reply when proven wrong - appreciate ya brother
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Such a weird hill to die on. KU sucks on a KU fan board the year after they won a national championship.
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@FarmerJayhawk 2 Natty’s
Plenty of choke jobs and bad lineups
That’s always been his problem holding D higher than O like it’s the 1990’s basketball
Nfl has adapted, nba as well. Easier to teach a scorer ti defend than a defender how to score
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@dylans said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
Such a weird hill to die on. KU sucks on a KU fan board the year after they won a national championship.
HEM behavior.
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@kuballin10 yep gosh what a failure
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 outline it.
Jalen 20 ppg
Kevin 12?
Gradey 12?
Juan 9
Kj -6?
Total:57
This D doesn’t have a doke so we can’t hang our hat on it
AND ? what the hell is your point exactly. - you telling me we have scoring machines on the bench - -if we do PLEASE let us know so we can relay to Bill
The point is we don’t and playing starters 35 minutes a night isn’t going to develop a bench either so when Wilson and/or Dick have an off night like tonight, KU is going to struggle to win games and will have to play low possession games in the 50’s which helps keep other teams in games and if they play well, lead to blow outs like tonight.
At least you make some logic. – I can’t deal with trolls.- - -Bobby hurt , Cuffe hurt - - Martin Hurt - - Cllemencce still hurting - -but we will be ok - - -everyone has bad nights
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@jayballer67 he helped you interpret mine since you somehow couldn’t put 2 and 2 together
I didn’t include the bench because we don’t have one
Cuffe haha get out if you read this board you know he isn’t getting minutes
Martin the same
Bobby doesn’t even look to score
Tonight is more reflective of who we are this year. I mean if you didn’t see all those close calls against average teams and came away thinking we are a legitimate title contender - the red and blue glasses are glued on too tight
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Well. I’m going to go eat pie and grade some papers.
It’s going to be okay everyone
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk 2 Natty’s
Plenty of choke jobs and bad lineups
That’s always been his problem holding D higher than O like it’s the 1990’s basketball
Nfl has adapted, nba as well. Easier to teach a scorer ti defend than a defender how to score
Tell me ol wise one. - -how nattys has Calipari had WITH NBA lineups ? - - go ahead I’ll wait ? ? ? - how many # 1 recruiting classes has Calipari had ? - - go ahead I’ll wait. - - How many choke jobs does he have? - Thing is with him his teams don’t play D - -and to much one on one O - -hmm dam maybe that’s why they wanna run him out of Lexington on a rail- -like Farmer said - -ANOTHER FAILURE HUH roflmao
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Unless
️ commits suicide. Geeze. It’s a game. Peace and love all. If you don’t enjoy the game, try parcheesi or something less stressful. I feel like a help line needs to listed here after tonight though.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
Well. I’m going to go eat pie and grade some papers.
It’s going to be okay everyone
yes it is. Sun still gonna come up in the East tomorrow and sit in the West - Were gonna be fine
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@jayballer67 Cal is awful
Give me Jay Wright - his teams played aggressive on BOTH sides of the ball. He never quick hooked kids especially early and let them play through mistakes. He did more with less at a school that isn’t a top recruiter like the blue bloods
Jay Roy/Bill
That’d be the order
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 he helped you interpret mine since you somehow couldn’t put 2 and 2 together
I didn’t include the bench because we don’t have one
Cuffe haha get out if you read this board you know he isn’t getting minutes
Martin the same
Bobby doesn’t even look to score
Tonight is more reflective of who we are this year. I mean if you didn’t see all those close calls against average teams and came away thinking we are a legitimate title contender - the red and blue glasses are glued on too tight
your a trip lmao - - have a great night roflmao
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 you forget your own posts? Put the bottle down man
You said 9 ppg from Juan would cut it
I outlined how that only gets us 57 points in reality which ain’t winning many games this year against real competition
So your theory that 9 ppg Juan is enough I “outlined it” for you that the math doesn’t work. Dude has to score more
Harris scoring 9 ppg is where he should be as the 4th scorer on a this team amd don’t use the worst game of his career tonight as justification when Wilson was 13 below his average tonight and Dick 10 below his.
If Harris was the only player with a bad game tonight leading to this loss, then you’d have a point, but other than Yesufu, everyone else for KU played like shit tonight. Our starters were 10-37 from the field and 3-13 from 3.
We all know that something needs to happen with the bench to develop some more depth and scoring, but trying blame tonight on Harris is just plain ignoring everyone else that played like shit tonight too.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 erase it nah - Zuby will rebound he’s the best of the 4
Well not sure if you know or not but that 6’7 guy your talking about KJ is KU’s leading rebounder tonight - so ya lets take him out and put Zuby in. - -I know maybe Zuby gonna score more then KJ - -doubt it - sure Kj only has 4 points - but again leading rebounder this game and thats what we ARE talking about he has 7 rebounds and 4 points. -Right now it takes Zuby or Ernest 5 games to score 4 points. -& KJ much much better defensively then Ernst or Zuby is close to being. - -So really not sure what the hell your thinking is thinking we would be better with them in
All but 1 of KJ’s rebounds are offensive tonight. He has only 1 rebound on defense. And this is a big problem for KU because KJ is the worst defensive rebounding big Self has ever had. KU absolutely has to get one of the other post players going because KJ’s defensive rebounding is an issue that has to fixed at some point.
It wa the ENTIRE teams was an issue tonight - as bad as things were , they would of been a ot worse with 2nd and third chances if it was for KJ’s rebounding
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@Texas-Hawk-10 it isn’t all Harris fault but if he’s the winner Bill says - winners take over when the other guys can’t score.
Good teams will slow Wilson and Gradey down as they can out athlete them. Kevin is the third scorer but if you know the game or watch he’s a defensive specialist and rebounder not some 15ppg guy.
Teams can matchup better with Wilson and Gradey and Juan must score more
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@jayballer67 you listed Cuffe and Martin as if because we aren’t fully healthy those two bench warmers would have made a difference
Talk about a trip….come down from that high man. Surprised you didn’t list Jank too
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 you listed Cuffe and Martin as if because we aren’t fully healthy those two bench warmers would have made a difference
Talk about a trip….come down from that high man. Surprised you didn’t list Jank too
have a great night
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@jayballer67 I’d bow out to after those last few posts “rolfmao”
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@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@jayballer67 erase it nah - Zuby will rebound he’s the best of the 4
Well not sure if you know or not but that 6’7 guy your talking about KJ is KU’s leading rebounder tonight - so ya lets take him out and put Zuby in. - -I know maybe Zuby gonna score more then KJ - -doubt it - sure Kj only has 4 points - but again leading rebounder this game and thats what we ARE talking about he has 7 rebounds and 4 points. -Right now it takes Zuby or Ernest 5 games to score 4 points. -& KJ much much better defensively then Ernst or Zuby is close to being. - -So really not sure what the hell your thinking is thinking we would be better with them in
All but 1 of KJ’s rebounds are offensive tonight. He has only 1 rebound on defense. And this is a big problem for KU because KJ is the worst defensive rebounding big Self has ever had. KU absolutely has to get one of the other post players going because KJ’s defensive rebounding is an issue that has to fixed at some point.
It wa the ENTIRE teams was an issue tonight - as bad as things were , they would of been a ot worse with 2nd and third chances if it was for KJ’s rebounding
Again, KJ only had 1 defensive rebound tonight. Tennessee grabbed 15 offensive rebounds to our 17 defensive rebounds tonight. It was basically 50/50 on who got the ball after a Tennessee miss tonight and KJ did nothing to help that because he got 1 defensive rebound tonight.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 that and UT clogged the paint playing off everyone except Gradey so Wilson and Mccullar’s driving lanes were non existent
I said it will be a long night for Wilson and Gradey which means other guys have to score
Our scout is easy
Let Juan shoot as many times from deep as he wants
KJ - only scores on lobs
Kevin - let him shoot
Wilson - double him every time he drives
Gradey - whoever guards him does not help
Juan’s guy helps when Wilson drives or Kevin’s.
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@kuballin10 said in KU/Tennessee Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 it isn’t all Harris fault but if he’s the winner Bill says - winners take over when the other guys can’t score.
Good teams will slow Wilson and Gradey down as they can out athlete them. Kevin is the third scorer but if you know the game or watch he’s a defensive specialist and rebounder not some 15ppg guy.
Teams can matchup better with Wilson and Gradey and Juan must score more
Gradey will hopefully be harder to slow down as the year goes on and he gets more comfortable with the offense and learns how to move without the ball better. I generally agree about Wilson because I’ve always said he was a below average athlete and is a slightly better version of Perry Ellis.
I also generally believe that unless the bench is developed, this team has a hallmarks of a Round of 32/Sweet 16 team.
