Coaching Search/AD Thread
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Well, not going to be this week. There’s some internal friction.
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@jayballer67 Even when the new AD gets hired, there’s not a great reason to hire a new coach after spring practice is done. The quality of the staff wouldn’t be great because most assistant coaches aren’t leaving their job during the summer. You wreck multiple recruiting classes because you lose a lot of recent recruits and start off way behind in 2022 recruiting.
Whoever the new AD is needs to let Jones coach this season, then reevaluate after the season. If Jones struggles early, then recruits can wait to see who the next coach is. The current players could be less likely to transfer out because the guy they wanted was given a fair shot at the job so there’s going to be more acceptance of the whatever the outcome is next season.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 Even when the new AD gets hired, there’s not a great reason to hire a new coach after spring practice is done. The quality of the staff wouldn’t be great because most assistant coaches aren’t leaving their job during the summer. You wreck multiple recruiting classes because you lose a lot of recent recruits and start off way behind in 2022 recruiting.
Whoever the new AD is needs to let Jones coach this season, then reevaluate after the season. If Jones struggles early, then recruits can wait to see who the next coach is. The current players could be less likely to transfer out because the guy they wanted was given a fair shot at the job so there’s going to be more acceptance of the whatever the outcome is next season.
That’s very true. There is a big part of me that wants them to leave Jones alone, let him have his shot for the Regular season for more then one reason. Who knows maybe just maybe the guy might have a knack, I know he has a great relationship with the current players or at least a decent amount of them. Doesn’t necessarily translate into W’s, think he will get the most out of these kids.
Believe it or not there IS some talent on this roster, the defensive secondary is coming, could be a pretty salty group in another year. I think possibly we have the makings of actual QB or two - -given time. - -I truly jumped the gun on this late Transfer QB , the more I see of him the more I like got a good arm, for sure has some juice, plus I think in a year or two our two FR QB’S could surprise.
I think the big question as has been these past few years is can we assemble a group of OL that can give these guys time to make plays, if you can’t protect - doesn’t matter who you have back there, really looking for improvement in BOTH lines OL & DL. - need more out of the DL to put pressure on opposing QB’S
The big thing I don’t want to see is disruption in recruiting, have had 2 pretty decent classes coming in can’t afford to disrupt this. Again let Jones run the team this year none of this coming in in the middle and trying to shake things up - -AGAIN. - -If he starts the Season as Coach - -let him finish this season as Coach - -Just want to see this as a competitive team again , a team where a person can enjoy a Saturday afternoon feeling like we actually have a shot at some W’s and not having to worry about how be the spread of us getting our ass kicked on yet ANOTHER Saturday afternoon. Miss the days of being able to go to the Stadium and enjoy a competitive game. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Well, not going to be this week. There’s some internal friction.
go figure
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Get the right AD. There is a template. It’s called Bob Frederick.
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Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure it’s Goff.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure it’s Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it’s a good hire with him if indeed that’s who it is ?
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure it’s Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it’s a good hire with him if indeed that’s who it is ?
Considering the circumstances I think it’s a good hire. Goff is green but has been around one of the best in the business for quite awhile.
I also think the coaching search moves FAST now. The search firm already is vetting and gauging interest. Leipold would take the gig tomorrow if offered.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure it’s Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it’s a good hire with him if indeed that’s who it is ?
Considering the circumstances I think it’s a good hire. Goff is green but has been around one of the best in the business for quite awhile.
I also think the coaching search moves FAST now. The search firm already is vetting and gauging interest. Leipold would take the gig tomorrow if offered.
I agree with you on how quick they move. With the Ad in place , everything I’ve been hearing that Leipold really wants this job, and I think again from things I’ve heard well John Q Public wants Leipold also - - hell I think he would be sweet also - -and I’m thinking he is in pretty favorable spot with the group looking for the Coach.
All things considered really don’t think we could ask for much better, plus I think from everything I’ve heard and his field success he can turn things around. We’ve went with the Big Name Coach’s and look where tha has got us , really don’t think I want to go that route anymore. - -Thing is - -are we just another step up higher of a stepping stone for Leipold? Just time will tell , not sure how he does in his recruiting but I’m hyped about his possible hire anyways - - I’m ready to give him his shot. - -Hell we might have a New A d by Monday and maybe even a Coach by Friday. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by week’s end. Thinking more end of April-ish
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by week’s end. Thinking more end of April-ish
Really? still that far out on a Coach? - -thought the committee or Search had been having guys come in for interviews. - - Do they have to wait for the Ad or couldn’t Girod himself give the go ahead for that. That if it is stil that far out makes me think they won’t hire on during the Season and just let Jones have the reins for this Season
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by week’s end. Thinking more end of April-ish
Really? still that far out on a Coach? - -thought the committee or Search had been having guys come in for interviews. - - Do they have to wait for the Ad or couldn’t Girod himself give the go ahead for that. That if it is stil that far out makes me think they won’t hire on during the Season and just let Jones have the reins for this Season
Yeah, the AD will want to do his own interviews in all likelihood even though TurnKey did their vetting and all that.
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Goff. Wednesday presser.
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LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
would love that BUT from what I saw today more like Monken or Fritz – I just really don’t want Fritz - - would love Leipold but doesn’t seem that’s happening
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young - - - really young BUT maybe that’s what this system needs young entergentic fresh meat - -someone who is gonna be aggressive and get after it - -i like it
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Ok so now we have our AD - - now time to nail down the Coach and umm - - -NO please - - NO not Fritz - -come on down Leipold
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
would love that BUT from what I saw today more like Monken or Fritz – I just really don’t want Fritz - - would love Leipold but doesn’t seem that’s happening
That report is incorrect.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
would love that BUT from what I saw today more like Monken or Fritz – I just really don’t want Fritz - - would love Leipold but doesn’t seem that’s happening
That report is incorrect.
if what your saying is true - - I would be very very happy. - -I want Leipold
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Interviews starting tomorrow. Buckle up.
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I’ll take Leipold, please and thanks.
Great tweet earlier - “this is going to come full circle. A Buffalo coach put us in this mess, and now one has to pull us out.”
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@Kcmatt7 That Buffalo coach was one of about 35 coaches who put us in a mess.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
I’ll take Leipold, please and thanks.
Great tweet earlier - “this is going to come full circle. A Buffalo coach put us in this mess, and now one has to pull us out.”
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Interviews starting tomorrow. Buckle up.
I think you and I are boat looking for the same guy possibly. - - what chances you think he has ? realistically ? - -Leipold. - -Been hearing alot about Fritz & Monken - -Leipold 3rd? - Just don’t really want Fritz yet thats probably who we end up with. - Think I would rather have one of the other two 1st - - Thoughts ?
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Interviews starting tomorrow. Buckle up.
I think you and I are boat looking for the same guy possibly. - - what chances you think he has ? realistically ? - -Leipold. - -Been hearing alot about Fritz & Monken - -Leipold 3rd? - Just don’t really want Fritz yet thats probably who we end up with. - Think I would rather have one of the other two 1st - - Thoughts ?
I would be pretty surprised if it wasn’t Leipold. And fast.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Interviews starting tomorrow. Buckle up.
I think you and I are boat looking for the same guy possibly. - - what chances you think he has ? realistically ? - -Leipold. - -Been hearing alot about Fritz & Monken - -Leipold 3rd? - Just don’t really want Fritz yet thats probably who we end up with. - Think I would rather have one of the other two 1st - - Thoughts ?
I would be pretty surprised if it wasn’t Leipold. And fast.
Oh Buddy that sounds nice , like the sounds of that - just have to keep my fingers crossed
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The football/athletic training facility at Northwestern is a site to behold. It’s right on Lake Michigan, simply spectacular. Goff’s fundraising ability at NU was incredible. I’m hoping he has the same impact at KU.
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Getting some interest. He’d at least listen and probably interview. I have him at the top of tier 2 on my board. https://247sports.com/coach/Dan-Lanning-3823/
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@FarmerJayhawk Would be very happy with
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My gut feeling is for not to hire a new coach and see what Jones can do. He has support from players and hopefully recruits will not decommit.
With Jones I think that KU football will not be worse than last year.
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@AsadZ I just don’t think you can hire him to be HC. He’s unqualified, period.
Keep him on the next staff.
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One scenario is to let him be HC for one year and evaluate the progress and if enough progress is not seen hire a new coach next year. This can also provide greater number of candidates next year as it will be difficult to hire a new coach now, Spring practices are already underway.
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@AsadZ said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
My gut feeling is for not to hire a new coach and see what Jones can do. He has support from players and hopefully recruits will not decommit.
With Jones I think that KU football will not be worse than last year.
he already had some support & backing of recruits when he wasn’t the interim Coach - -they was already backing him along with current players. I think if he remain Coach throughout this year - -this roster would stay in tact. Hell we took a chance many moons ago with the Basketball Coach. A fella named Roy Williams, he really didn’t have any head Coaching experience and we saw how that turned out. - -I know totally different but just saying.
Do I want him as a permnant HC don’t think so not right now anyways. - - just hoping they retain him whoever they hire
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@AsadZ I think now is the right time to hire. There isn’t any competition from other schools in the market so we kind of have our pick. Leipold and Monken were both finalists for P5 jobs last year, so I don’t want to have to compete with other schools when hiring in December.
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Your point makes sense as well.
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Some poor guy who really needs a hobby wrote a way too long piece on candidates. Worth checking out tho https://gametheoryblog.wixsite.com/gametheory/single-post/kansas-football-coaching-search-a-tradition-unlike-any-other
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Hearing this is about to bLLow open.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hearing this is about to bLLow open.
been hearing/reading the same thing or pretty much. - -Hearibg cou ld be within the next 24 hours
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hearing this is about to bLLow open.
been hearing/reading the same thing or pretty much. - -Hearibg cou ld be within the next 24 hours
It won’t be that quick. This time next week it could be done.
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Interviews are going to wrap very soon. Think we pretty much know this weekend.
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@FarmerJayhawk wiLL we?
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@Kcmatt7 very LLikely. Goff is doing his due diligence and could find a Juicy Mystery candidate as well.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@Kcmatt7 very LLikely. Goff is doing his due diligence and could find a Juicy Mystery candidate as well.
Been hearing some other names tossed around. STILL just fully believe in the end when it’s all said and done now - - going to be Leipold Or Monken - -dam those aren’t spelled right but you get what I mean lol
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Well , just from everything I’ve been hearing lately is - -it just sounds like Monken just might edge out Leipold. - -I just can’t honestly say exactly how I feel if this turns out to be the case. I want Leipold but then who am I ? - -just a fan that’s all.
I have heard skuttle butt that if he comes that yes he is agreeable to change in offensive thinking - -He BETTER, that offense he ran at Army will not cut it in the Big 12. - -He very well might be a decent Coach, like I’ve read were probably not going to get much better chance for a Coach other then him or Leipold - -that’s who I want . I’m sure in time if it is Monken it will sink in and we go from thre.
I’m just ready to get this Coach hired and move on- - let’s get this done
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Well , just from everything I’ve been hearing lately is - -it just sounds like Monken just might edge out Leipold. - -I just can’t honestly say exactly how I feel if this turns out to be the case. I want Leipold but then who am I ? - -just a fan that’s all.
I have heard skuttle butt that if he comes that yes he is agreeable to change in offensive thinking - -He BETTER, that offense he ran at Army will not cut it in the Big 12. - -He very well might be a decent Coach, like I’ve read were probably not going to get much better chance for a Coach other then him or Leipold - -that’s who I want . I’m sure in time if it is Monken it will sink in and we go from thre.
I’m just ready to get this Coach hired and move on- - let’s get this done
Oh yeah there’s a 0% chance Monken would run flexbone triple option at KU. Rumor is he’s got his OC in the bag to bring along but it’s a bit flimsy right now. Looking more spread option.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Well , just from everything I’ve been hearing lately is - -it just sounds like Monken just might edge out Leipold. - -I just can’t honestly say exactly how I feel if this turns out to be the case. I want Leipold but then who am I ? - -just a fan that’s all.
I have heard skuttle butt that if he comes that yes he is agreeable to change in offensive thinking - -He BETTER, that offense he ran at Army will not cut it in the Big 12. - -He very well might be a decent Coach, like I’ve read were probably not going to get much better chance for a Coach other then him or Leipold - -that’s who I want . I’m sure in time if it is Monken it will sink in and we go from thre.
I’m just ready to get this Coach hired and move on- - let’s get this done
Oh yeah there’s a 0% chance Monken would run flexbone triple option at KU. Rumor is he’s got his OC in the bag to bring along but it’s a bit flimsy right now. Looking more spread option.
Well again asking think I know your answer but checking to see if you had flipped. - -I still would prefer Leipold more, & beleive you said he was your # 1 choice - - has that changed ?
