Les Miles
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If this case was supposedly settled and a non-disclosure was signed, how did any of this get leaked? Are those parties culpable too? It’s times like this I wish I had a more robust knowledge of tort law and law in general so I could better anticipate the fallout.
Still not sure why the media is picking a fight with KU at the moment. Seems like we are the proverbial victim in this scenario. I guess LSU is college football royalty so the powers that be will mercilessly cudgel the court jester. God help us if this drags out indefinitely as the basketball situation seems to be doing. What a mess.
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Better have Tom Herman named HC within a day or two.
Hell no I don’t want Tom Herman here. He couldn’t get Texas back to competing with OU annually with the resources he had at Texas, but it’d be realistic to think he could make Kansas competitive when he’d have basically no resources here? Herman is also a job hopper. His 4 year stint at Texas was the longest he’d been at any job in his career so if he did manage any success at Kansas, he’d be gone the next season KU would be back in rebuild mode.
KU needs to go get someone who built a winner at a smaller conference and doesn’t jump at the first better offer he receives. Go look at Coastal’s coach since they’ve beaten us twice now, Appalachian St., Louisiana, Toledo, San Jose St. These are the types of places KU needs to be looking at for a head coach and not a P5 retread.
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If this case was supposedly settled and a non-disclosure was signed, how did any of this get leaked? Are those parties culpable too? It’s times like this I wish I had a more robust knowledge of tort law and law in general so I could better anticipate the fallout.
Still not sure why the media is picking a fight with KU at the moment. Seems like we are the proverbial victim in this scenario. I guess LSU is college football royalty so the powers that be will mercilessly cudgel the court jester. God help us if this drags out indefinitely as the basketball situation seems to be doing. What a mess.
The media is ripping KU because KU didn’t immediately fire Miles once the investigation became public because the stuff he’s accused of is one of the hot button social issues the media is all over right now.
From what I can tell, KU is handling this exactly the way they should be at this point of doing their own due diligence and investigating everything to determine what action KU wants to take and what KU can legally take right now.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Les Miles:
The media is ripping KU because KU didn’t immediately fire Miles once the investigation became public because the stuff he’s accused of is one of the hot button social issues the media is all over right now.
Knowing the fickle media, if KU had fired Miles on the spot they would have ripped this institution for that as well.
I agree with you there needs to be a discovery period for this stuff. Many future dominoes are set to fall based on the circumstances here. It is best to perform due diligence. Yet, time is of the essence as well. Squaring those two things is never easy. Still, these ratings bonanza show trials in the news and on social media need to stop.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Les Miles:
Better have Tom Herman named HC within a day or two.
Hell no I don’t want Tom Herman here. He couldn’t get Texas back to competing with OU annually with the resources he had at Texas, but it’d be realistic to think he could make Kansas competitive when he’d have basically no resources here? Herman is also a job hopper. His 4 year stint at Texas was the longest he’d been at any job in his career so if he did manage any success at Kansas, he’d be gone the next season KU would be back in rebuild mode.
KU needs to go get someone who built a winner at a smaller conference and doesn’t jump at the first better offer he receives. Go look at Coastal’s coach since they’ve beaten us twice now, Appalachian St., Louisiana, Toledo, San Jose St. These are the types of places KU needs to be looking at for a head coach and not a P5 retread.
Chadwell said no to Tennessee, Napier turned down Auburn and Mississippi State, App State’s coach is likely a lifer there (and he’s their third in 3 years). Candle from Toledo would be a good hire.
Key thing is getting through this year and keeping the roster in tact. We finally have a real foundation to grow from and a bunch of defections would set us back years. I would hire Jones as the interim. Best case, he becomes our Dabo. Gets the guys to play better than they ever have and win 3-4 games, be competitive in most others. Then remove the tag. Worst case he’s way in over his head, but the job is more attractive to an outside candidate come November and December.
I’d look at Herman for sure. Candle would be in that group too, though Matt Campbell’s really built Toledo, Candle to his credit has kept it rolling. Lance Leipold from Buffalo would be a good hire. Add in Willie Fritz, Brent Brennan (SJSU), and Sean Lewis (Kent St) then you’d have real options. Out of that group I think I’d take Candle, Lewis, Herman, Leipold, Fritz respectively.
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Sounds like the ax will drop in the next few minutes
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Yea sounds like it.
Have to think we try to get rid of Long before we are stuck with him for however long our probation is?
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I certainly would. I don’t think you can trust him to make another hire.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Les Miles:
Sounds like the ax will drop in the next few minutes
oh dam buddy where you see that at ?> - - Les Miles gone right ?
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Sounds like Petro jumped the gun. Nothing coming out 30 minutes after the announcement was allegedly supposed to come down.
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He gone. Hiring an interim and will look for a replacement.
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What an end to an era
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After everything came out it was inevitable. Didn’t help that the story broke during International Women’s Month.
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Tl;dr: Leipold, Jay Norvell (Nevada), Todd Monken, Mike Neu (Ball St), Willie Fritz, Craig Bohl (Wyoming)
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So after Charlie Weis and Les Miles, have we learned our lesson about hiring big-name coaches ?
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@nwhawkfan said in Les Miles:
So after Charlie Weis and Les Miles, have we learned our lesson about hiring big-name coaches ?
Maybe? I mean if Chris Petersen wants the job you say yes and ask very few questions
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Make damn sure the search committee digs DEEP into these guys’ past
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@nwhawkfan said in Les Miles:
Make damn sure the search committee digs DEEP into these guys’ past
For sure. Tidbit: Liepold would take the job tomorrow if offered
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I hear Andy Reid is interested. Now that he’s got a Super Bowl ring, he’d like a …toilet bowl ring to go with it.
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This honestly may end up working out better for KU. At least there is a recruiting class to salvage. A much more attractive job than it was from the Beaty handoff I would think so there may be a few candidates we can at least get the ear of.
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If you get a chance Matt Tait had a pretty good piece in the LJW. Made some sense , at this point sure the hell might be worth a shot - at this point it can’t hurt us anymore then the way it is now.
He mentioned the possibilty of naming Emmit Jones as the interim Coach. - -been around the program , has a good relationship with the players on the roster, a lot of the players really like him - a lot of the recruits really like him. - He would probably be the best bet right now in trying to keep our roster in tact as much as possible anyways . Give Jones this year with the team while you search for a Coach and hell if he does well Tait said like Brown did for Wichita State did with their basketball program, then you could always remove the interim if they wanted. - I think he might be the answer to what I fear most - -the exodus of the roster if we make that wrong pick then our numbers get shot all to hell again and we go right back to where we was - -Jones would continue some continuity - -like Tait said hell the list of Coaches right now available or willing that would consider coming here ae pretty limited. - - worth a shot.
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Ok so I just wanted to say this. Now I think we all can say ya what happened with Les was the right thing to do , what he did was wrong. Some calling him a nasty old dirty pervert - - -maybe I am not the one to Judge as I don’t think any of us are , there is only only person who is in a position to do that , but not getting into religion. What I wanted to again it was wrong and we had to part ways – Long needs to be next for sure but here is what I’m trying to get at.
I have to appreciate Les to this degree and love what he had to say: Les said in his statement - - that he knows Kansas is in a better pace now then what it was when he got here. most definetly 100000% agree. I don’t think ANYONE can debate that. The quality of players , the players more talented. We were/are getting to talk to kids now because of Les that wouldn’t of even began to think of even returning our phone calls before Les. NO Juco’s -straight High School players - -better high Schools players involved recruiting players against bigger name Schools – that was Les & Staff - -not a Beaty staff.-- he was getting our numbers back in check. Anyone remember in Beaty’s final year - -we had ONE - - ONE player committed to us and the Schools we use to recruit against for players they were GOD horrible. Can’t deny the fact that he for sure upgraded our recruiting and level of talent. - Sure we hadn’t gotten to see the type of results YET but it was coming, you could see spots & times were you could see these players developing we were just so young.
Then he said this in his Statement and I’ll give the best props for doing so : To the players I want you to remember that you came to play for KU and earn a degree here. I implore you to STAY and build on what we started. - - Amen to that. He could of been a complete ass and encouraged players to find other places to go talk all trash on KU - -but he didn’t and for that I have to say THANK you Les. just a bad situation
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Kevin Kane wants the job, and his first choice for OC is Nate Scheelhaase. Rockhurst reunion!
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Les Miles:
Kevin Kane wants the job, and his first choice for OC is Nate Scheelhaase. Rockhurst reunion!
If this old memory is right , Kevin Kane played for us years back didn’t he ? - -Middle linebacker ? - - probably not right
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@jayballer67 said in Les Miles:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Les Miles:
Kevin Kane wants the job, and his first choice for OC is Nate Scheelhaase. Rockhurst reunion!
If this old memory is right , Kevin Kane played for us years back didn’t he ? - -Middle linebacker ? - - probably not right
Bingo!
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Does Jeff Long survive this situation? 2 of his last 3 football hires have been fired for non football related issues. I don’t trust Jeff Long’s judgement and evaluation skills given his track record.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Les Miles:
@jayballer67 said in Les Miles:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Les Miles:
Kevin Kane wants the job, and his first choice for OC is Nate Scheelhaase. Rockhurst reunion!
If this old memory is right , Kevin Kane played for us years back didn’t he ? - -Middle linebacker ? - - probably not right
Bingo!
ahhh thanks. - -for some reason I was thinking that might be the case
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Les Miles:
Does Jeff Long survive this situation? 2 of his last 3 football hires have been fired for non football related issues. I don’t trust Jeff Long’s judgement and evaluation skills given his track record.
they need to put him on the very next train - - - OUT
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I would have zero issue with Kane. And a legacy hire might be what we need.
Because you know if someone turns this program around at all they will be a hot commodity.
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Les Miles and KU parted ways for a 1.9 million buy out
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Normalize on time pressers
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$1.9M buyout.
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just got though listening to the press Conference from long. he said he asked Les Miles - -during his interview is there anything that we need to know that would embarass the University of Kansas ? – Miles said no. Long was asked why couldn’t you fire him with cause easily enough for that right there cause he straight out lied. - - Long said well he couldn’t really say if it was a lie or not saying it was debatable if that was a lie. - - - - just threw out 1.9 million - -here you go - could of been fired very easily with cause for the blatent lie during his interview
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So that makes how many ex-coaches we’re paying? I hope Mangino is off the books by now.
