KU @ Arizona St 8pm CT
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@kjayhawks2.0 if DP locks in on D he can be really good on that end. That to me is our X factor in the tourney. I appreciate the Kohl minutes because honestly we are going nowhere with 7 guys if we cant manufacture shots in half court sets.
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Hard to imagine a worse 3 minutes than Elmarkos tonight. 3 turnovers, got schooled on defense and had a foul. Iām fine with Kohl playing more if that how Elmarko is going to play.
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I guess ironic how some of us were just talking the other day about how bad the officiating has been across the board this season. Doug Sirmons - hold my beer
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If (and that's a BIG IF) we get through the first weekend of the tournament, there's a good chance we'll play a #1 seed in the sweet 16 that we've already seen... Duke? Arizona? Michigan? Houston?
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I want to give a shout to Fox Sports Nick and I forgot the other guys name. But it was nice to see the crew get called out several times for BS. Fran wouldāve said Bill deserved the double T and Kansas got all the calls the entire game.
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@kjayhawks2.0 said in KU @ Arizona St 8pm CT:
I guess ironic how some of us were just talking the other day about how bad the officiating has been across the board this season. Doug Sirmons - hold my beer
Sirmons is the common denominator for shitty officiating in KU games. Pretty much any KU game this season where officiating was an issue, Sirmons more than likely was a ref for that game. Self needs to throw Sirmons under the bus in the post game presser tonight because he is the worst ref I have ever seen.
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With this being our 9th loss and 4 out of the last 6 being Ls, who here thinks this team is lost and done? Bill Self in his first 20 years at Kansas had zero teams lose 11 or more games. This year barring the biggest miracle in sports history it will be 3 consecutive years of 11 or more games. Kansas has made it out of the first weekend but 1 time in the last 7 years. Itās time to ask difficult questions. The first one is should Bill Self be coaching Kansas going forward?
I can honestly say I hope he not is back next season. I donāt think he had the right mindset to coach in this era of college sports. Yes Iām well aware we won a title technically in the NIL era but it was with guys that were upper class men he developed here, not a team that returns 2 guys that have seen the floor every season.
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@kjayhawks2.0 said in KU @ Arizona St 8pm CT:
With this being our 9th loss and 4 out of the last 6 being Ls, who here thinks this team is lost and done? Bill Self in his first 20 years at Kansas had zero teams lose 11 or more games. This year barring the biggest miracle in sports history it will be 3 consecutive years of 11 or more games. Kansas has made it out of the first weekend but 1 time in the last 7 years. Itās time to ask difficult questions. The first one is should Bill Self be coaching Kansas going forward?
I can honestly say I hope he not is back next season. I donāt think he had the right mindset to coach in this era of college sports. Yes Iām well aware we won a title technically in the NIL era but it was with guys that were upper class men he developed here, not a team that returns 2 guys that have seen the floor every season.
Old Goats got one more in āem.
Also just look at Indiana, UK and UCLA. Only way you move on is if you have a top guy lined up like Otz. And even then no guarantees.
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That was a fuc*ing embarrassment on every level. Players, refs, coaches. You name it.
Beat down by 20 in the first half? Against ASU? What the hell kind of team is this?
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@webjay He got tossed going scorched earth on the refs.
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@rockchalkjayhawk haha. I mean youāre not wrong, but the effort was there second half even though the preparedness was not. Time to own it and move on. Not counting us out yet, but the team needs to respond positively. What the hell kind of team is this? Is definitely the question the boys need to answer now.
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@bskeet We beat 2 of those 4 #1 seeds.
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We are seeing what kind of team this is, everything that was built has unraveled and happened quickly. If the only time they can play well is at home their fate will find a swift exit next week and the following one.
Officiating hit a new low last night but having 1 coach ejected and another T'd up before halftime is unacceptable and controllable behavior.
There seems to be stuff going on behind the scenes that we are not seeing that are playing out on the floor. Not connected, guys are playing me ball and you're not seeing the energy on either side of the ball. This is truly shocking to see after so much growth and development from this bunch.
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we actually rebounded the ball super well. Im honestly still speechless at how destructive elmarko was
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KSU will be coming in on a high after swatting West Virginia. It's perplexing and I'm not just talking about officiating. I am intrigued about what Bill, Jacque, Tre, Melvin, Flory, Darryn, Bryson Elmarko, Jamari, Kohl and Doctor Allen are thinking this morning. I hope they are all okay and with quiet minds.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU @ Arizona St 8pm CT:
That was a fuc*ing embarrassment on every level. Players, refs, coaches. You name it.
Beat down by 20 in the first half? Against ASU? What the hell kind of team is this?
Thatās the biggest issue for me is that before the refs could make them game all about them. We came out of the gate with zero energy whatsoever.
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@Tallturd1 I know what Iām thinking this morning and it isnāt good. But itās the same feeling I had around this time of year the last two seasons. We are headed down the same path as Indiana basketball and Nebraska football.
