KU vs Wichita game chat
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I withdraw my statement to make Nick a starter and move to give his minutes to Jamari
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Good guys win again
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Good dub before the war
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HAPPY NEW YEAR BUCKETEERS. Stay safe and see you on 1/6
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Any time we get to see Bill going with weird bench combinations not even halfway into the 2nd half plus the walk-ons late is a good game.
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Maybe El Marko needs to schedule a whole season of Wichita States, played a nice game today
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@BShark said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
Any time we get to see Bill going with weird bench combinations not even halfway into the 2nd half plus the walk-ons late is a good game.
And this is why I don’t care about KenPom or other metrics
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KJ with career high in rebounds 11
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@RockChalkinTexas said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
League play next game TCU at home. It’s the only time we play them. Glad we got them in AFH
ya, we get to see/play against Ernest- -yippee
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Nice to see KU look sharp after the holiday break. You could tell they definitely took their foot off the gas defensively in the 2nd half though giving up 40 points.
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Good game for net and kenpom
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Good to see marko get going!
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Hunter better playing lower, catching ball better too
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Our sorely needed bench 3 point scorers were 1-10. Liked Elmarko’s improvement. Jamari with offensive boards and 4/4 from the line.
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El Kabong award to Parker in the second half. A little attitude!!
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
@BShark said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
Any time we get to see Bill going with weird bench combinations not even halfway into the 2nd half plus the walk-ons late is a good game.
And this is why I don’t care about KenPom or other metrics
Yeah we tanked hard from like 13-ish to 6 minutes to go in the second half. Mostly bench guys and we scored like 6 points during that stretch. Game was never in doubt.
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FSU statement game was to be them saying "leave us out of the playoffs? We’ll show you!
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KJ TREX ADAMS REBOUNDING CAREER HIGH. FIRST TIME IN DOUBLE DIGITS
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Didn’t get a chance to watch today, decided to take the kids out to a movie and arcade to get out of the house. Listen to some of the second half sounds like we only played down to their level for the first 10 minutes. Will try to watch it later on.
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Sorry I missed the chat. I was enjoying the nice weather. Inside a casino. Lol
I’m watching the replay now!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
Hunter better playing lower, catching ball better too
Hunter is so good close to the rim, I wish he would quit hanging out above the FT line and quit taking the 15 footers. He is money under the rim.
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@stoptheflop think that was the point of the week w/coach.
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Just wanted to say I thought furphy’s footwork was a lot better on D. Better angles!
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Just wanted to acknowledge that HD will not lead the nation in assists. Or even his own team.
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Nice game. Loved to see Elmarko make some progress. Some nice moves today. And athletic!
Only one question: why did DaJuan play 36 minutes??? Cmon, coach.
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@stoptheflop said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
Hunter better playing lower, catching ball better too
Hunter is so good close to the rim, I wish he would quit hanging out above the FT line and quit taking the 15 footers. He is money under the rim.
yet him being able to move out to take those 15 footers and make most of them ( shooting right at 50 % from the 3 ) which is leading the team, him being able to do that means a lot. That’s why you see Coach really doesn’t have a problem with that, much more versatile- -with him out there and be able to hit that shot, it forces opposing big men to come out and guard him and that in turns opens up/ free’s up more room in the middle for others such as Kevin & KJ to operate.- if he just camps down low, it clogs up down low and takes away our other options. no problem with how he is playing,
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If/when Juan gets into foul trouble or injured, who is KU’s backup PG? Whoever that is, needs more minutes at the point, especially in games where KU has a big lead like yesterday. Like Rockchalk, I didn’t understand why tired legs Hunter and the rest of the starters played so many minutes yesterday. Maybe because TCU is a week away or because the starters started the game so slowly. I thought Johnny looked fine. Jamari only played 8 minutes and Parker played 10. Both would have benefitted from more PT. Oh well, I usually think coach leaves the starters in too long on easily decided games. There must be a reason for it that I don’t know.
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@stoptheflop said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
If/when Juan gets into foul trouble or injured, who is KU’s backup PG? Whoever that is, needs more minutes at the point, especially in games where KU has a big lead like yesterday. Like Rockchalk, I didn’t understand why tired legs Hunter and the rest of the starters played so many minutes yesterday. Maybe because TCU is a week away or because the starters started the game so slowly. I thought Johnny looked fine. Jamari only played 8 minutes and Parker played 10. Both would have benefitted from more PT. Oh well, I usually think coach leaves the starters in too long on easily decided games. There must be a reason for it that I don’t know.
Dejuan’s primary back up needs to be Elmarko because that’s his natural position and what he’ll be playing in the NBA.
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@stoptheflop All I can figure is this is the way they will play the tournament, so they had best get ready for it. Conditioning and playing thru fouls is something they need to figure out. The good thing is the media timeouts are plentiful and helps a short bench in the ncaa tournament.
A short bench will likely lead to a loss in the Big12 tournament with the games back to back to back. That refocusing/reflecting time after a late season loss is something a lot clamor for.
I’d like to win them all, but the last game in April is the one that really sticks with you, so do what it takes even if it leads to a mass exodus. Developing talent in the portal/NIL era is for the mid majors with the exception of a handful of loyal dedicated guys like KJ and hopefully Elmarko - time will tell.
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I mentioned it earlier but the segment of the game where Bill went bench heavy was a complete disaster. It really needs to be two bench guys in at the same time as the maximum.
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@BShark yeah! I think I said something about that too.
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@BShark good point. I will let him know.
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@BShark he’s just trying to get some PT for the young guys. Starting Saturday we will likely only see 7 or 8 guys plays. Unless foul trouble shows up
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@nuleafjhawk said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
@BShark good point. I will let him know.
Also buttonhole Juan and advise him to shoot more. And drive to the rim. We need you Juan.
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@stoptheflop it makes me absolutely bonkers that he doesn’t shoot more. He’s an outstanding shooter. When he shoots…
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@nuleafjhawk he got 9 assists, he sees the easy basket
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Juan scores 6 points very early in this game then not another word the rest of the game. He just has to look to score more. - -shooting 50 % from the three people have got to respect his shot IF he shoots
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He shot another 3 and a 2 in the paint. He didn’t turn down open looks, he feeds open guys, lots of oops.
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@jayballer67 said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
Juan scores 6 points very early in this game then not another word the rest of the game. He just has to look to score more. - -shooting 50 % from the three people have got to respect his shot IF he shoots
When the lead was as large as it was for most of the game, he doesn’t need to force himself to score more.
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@kjayhawks said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
@BShark he’s just trying to get some PT for the young guys. Starting Saturday we will likely only see 7 or 8 guys plays. Unless foul trouble shows up
Right, just wanted to mention that as why the starters play more than ideally we would want. It’s necessary to win.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
@jayballer67 said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
Juan scores 6 points very early in this game then not another word the rest of the game. He just has to look to score more. - -shooting 50 % from the three people have got to respect his shot IF he shoots
When the lead was as large as it was for most of the game, he doesn’t need to force himself to score more.
True , BUT there have been a lot of times when that lead s we have not really destroyed a lot of people this yr, check out th point differential – he needs to become more of a threat on the offensive end. Until that happens teams are going to continue to ignore him on the offensive and doubling even more on Hunter. - he has the ability , just very reluctant to shot, were going to need his offensive input somewhere along the line for sure this season.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
He shot another 3 and a 2 in the paint. He didn’t turn down open looks, he feeds open guys, lots of oops.
that’s great but there is gonna be times where w need more then oops - -he is just a very reluctant shooter which allows other teams to slack off him, in real game time w need hi more offensively aggressive to many WAY to open looks he turning down - -gotta take that shot. Coach Self haas even mentioned how they have gotten on to him about shooting more
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Did u notice he had 10 pts, 6 assts, 4 steals last game? I want him to shoot too. I think he’s picking the right spots. I know his TO’s are bothering him.
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I finally watched all the game on replay. We sure do have a top notch 4 starters and we might just have seen that we now have a solid five and what a difference Elmarko made. 86 points is great with little help the bench which was 5/20 from the field including 1/14 from three. This team is damn good but not a title contender yet with such a low performing bench, except for Parker who gives us that athletic big to offset the seemingly unending supply we seem to face.
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@Zabudda I taught at a school with a legendary coach (google name seimone augustus, he coached her at my school) and one season he had 4 competent basketball players. Like no one else who could dribble it for more than 5-10 seconds without turning it over. So he ran 4 player sets on offense, just told the ‘extra’ girl to stand to the side and be ready to run down to play defense. It was not that successful of a team of course, but kind of interesting to watch. Not saying we’re that bad off but it just reminded me of it.
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That’s a coach who didn’t believe in wishful thinking who saw things as they really are and coached accordingly.
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@wissox sounds like a terrible coach in reality, you have all season to develop someone to at least be a decent player. Why do you think Self went to the bench early Saturday? Trying to get some young guys times to develop.
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@kjayhawks He’s not a terrible coach. He’s won multiple state championships. He coached in a really tough school.
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@kjayhawks Girls HS bball, I’ve seen teams with 5 players like @wissox described. On the flip side - There was one girl on our HS team that ended up getting drafted into the WNBA, they didn’t lose a single game for 3 years - all because of one player. Some games the other team could not advance the ball past half court because she would keep stealing it.
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@wissox said in KU vs Wichita game chat:
@kjayhawks He’s not a terrible coach. He’s won multiple state championships. He coached in a really tough school.
Won state championships but couldn’t teach a kid to dribble? At the high school level I’d prefer a coach that teaches kids the game over winning any day.
