Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?
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If Self gets his top portal targets, it’s 1 seed territory. Will be tricky, but it’s possible.
I think just Ingram and Hunter would be a one seed, assuming also a third addition with a pulse.
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@Jethro said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@wissox said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@nuleafjhawk Hmmm, what team might that have been?
@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree, I’m not sure this years version qualified as a 1 seed TBH.
@Jethro. Don’t get too worked up about it. I was really just satirizing the idea that we’ll be terrible next year.
I guess that could be one way of looking at it. Or it might be that I think Lunardi is a hack, and the one thing you can always count on is he will always be wrong. So, when you quote Lunardi, my response is always go to be " whatever". It’s my opinion. Wasn’t trying to antagonize.
Wouldn’t say he is always wrong. he has hit pretty strong on the field of 64 multiple times
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@jayballer67 I checked his final bracket a few years ago and he had about 12 out of the 68 spots correct. (might have had some additional seeds right, but wrong region or whatever). Nothing literally any average fan could predict.
I’ll give the guy credit for creating a career out of a pile of BS though.
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@DanR said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@jayballer67 I checked his final bracket a few years ago and he had about 12 out of the 68 spots correct. (might have had some additional seeds right, but wrong region or whatever). Nothing literally any average fan could predict.
I’ll give the guy credit for creating a career out of a pile of BS though.
lol - - all I know there has been multiple years of him pcking like 63-64 of opening round anor or 62-- haven’t seen anyone else do that -then of course really haven’t seen many othe posted
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@DanR our quad 1 wins were more valuable to him than the committee. He was putting us in KC
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It’s one thing to get the teams right. Another to get the seeds. The teams, seeds, and regions? Good luck!
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@DanR said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@jayballer67 I checked his final bracket a few years ago and he had about 12 out of the 68 spots correct. (might have had some additional seeds right, but wrong region or whatever). Nothing literally any average fan could predict.
I’ll give the guy credit for creating a career out of a pile of BS though.
There are people that are actually good at it too, he is just not among them.
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@jayballer67 said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@Jethro said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@wissox said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@nuleafjhawk Hmmm, what team might that have been?
@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree, I’m not sure this years version qualified as a 1 seed TBH.
@Jethro. Don’t get too worked up about it. I was really just satirizing the idea that we’ll be terrible next year.
I guess that could be one way of looking at it. Or it might be that I think Lunardi is a hack, and the one thing you can always count on is he will always be wrong. So, when you quote Lunardi, my response is always go to be " whatever". It’s my opinion. Wasn’t trying to antagonize.
Wouldn’t say he is always wrong. he has hit pretty strong on the field of 64 multiple times
If you go by the rankings, he’s way down there in accuracy in bracket predictions. When Joe talks, I don’t know if I’m getting his real opinion or the narrative his network is trying to advance.
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@Jethro said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@jayballer67 said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@Jethro said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@wissox said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@nuleafjhawk Hmmm, what team might that have been?
@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree, I’m not sure this years version qualified as a 1 seed TBH.
@Jethro. Don’t get too worked up about it. I was really just satirizing the idea that we’ll be terrible next year.
I guess that could be one way of looking at it. Or it might be that I think Lunardi is a hack, and the one thing you can always count on is he will always be wrong. So, when you quote Lunardi, my response is always go to be " whatever". It’s my opinion. Wasn’t trying to antagonize.
Wouldn’t say he is always wrong. he has hit pretty strong on the field of 64 multiple times
If you go by the rankings, he’s way down there in accuracy in bracket predictions. When Joe talks, I don’t know if I’m getting his real opinion or the narrative his network is trying to advance.
well that is true I suppose my friend - -could very well be net work prompting
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You guys can’t have it both ways. Lunardi was pushing us for #1 overall seed even after we lost our final game and the B12 tourney final. That hardly seems as anti-KU as y’all are always complaining ESPN is!
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@mayjay said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
You guys can’t have it both ways. Lunardi was pushing us for #1 overall seed even after we lost our final game and the B12 tourney final. That hardly seems as anti-KU as y’all are always complaining ESPN is!
He isn’t anti-KU, he just isn’t great at his job.
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I can’t find Lunardi’s full March 12th pre-selection bracket prediction, but he got 5 out of 16 spots correct in seeds 1-4. Practically anyone can pick at least 62 out of 68 teams that simply make the tourney, but his schtick is predicting the bracket matchups. He’s not good at that at all.
If you take a snapshot of his early bracket prediction for 2024, I’ll wager he’d be unlikely to have more than 3 or 4 teams in the correct spot come next march. Yet, here we are talking about about him.
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Even as of January of 2023 Lunardi was only able to correctly predict 2 in his updated bracket. (8 Iowa in the MW and 2 UCLA in the west).
The dude is practically psychic.
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TBH I rarely look at the bracketologists. 2016 we all were sure KU was going to Chicago and the Midwest. Instead we get the 1 seed and play in Louisville with the nightmare 2 seed of Villanova.
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@mayjay said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
You guys can’t have it both ways. Lunardi was pushing us for #1 overall seed even after we lost our final game and the B12 tourney final. That hardly seems as anti-KU as y’all are always complaining ESPN is!
He’s not anti-KU, but he is a water boy for the network, plus not very good at bracketology.
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@wissox I think you’re being sarcastic, but just in case you’re not - Danny & The Miracles!
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@nuleafjhawk said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@wissox I think you’re being sarcastic, but just in case you’re not - Danny & The Miracles!
Yes, forgot the sarcasm font! My senior year at KU, probably my best sports memory
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And back we come to this thread.
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Darn. I thought Ingram would end up a Jayhawk. That’s a tough loss
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You know what. Im gonna assume Bill got this.
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@approxinfinity said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
You know what. Im gonna assume Bill got this.
Probably a decent bet, but it seems like he is trying to draw to an inside straight. 26 of the top 35 transfers per 247sports have landed. Zags had 3 specific needs and met all 3. A lot of other teams have picked up at least 2 quality transfers. Conference foes are loading up. It seems like everything is hinging on Dickinson, when the 5 spot isn’t our primary need. I’m more than fine with the trio we have. What we most need is a 4 who can score some, rebound and defend. And, unless one of the freshmen over delivers, we don’t have anyone on the roster who can create their own shot.
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@DCHawker said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@approxinfinity said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
You know what. Im gonna assume Bill got this.
Probably a decent bet, but it seems like he is trying to draw to an inside straight. 26 of the top 35 transfers per 247sports have landed. Zags had 3 specific needs and met all 3. A lot of other teams have picked up at least 2 quality transfers. Conference foes are loading up. It seems like everything is hinging on Dickinson, when the 5 spot isn’t our primary need. I’m more than fine with the trio we have. What we most need is a 4 who can score some, rebound and defend. And, unless one of the freshmen over delivers, we don’t have anyone on the roster who can create their own shot.
What you’re describing isn’t in the portal. There isn’t a proven, high scoring P5 level 4 in the portal as of now and there’s no guarantee of one being in there once players withdraw from the draft. This is why the staff is so hard after Dickinson, he’s a proven 18 and 9 player because he’s done that at Michigan the past 2 seasons.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Fair enough. Some decent bigger wings, but not really 4s. Is there a reason Knect/CSU, Cleveland/FSU, Hart/MD haven’t been in the mix? I get the love for Dickinson, but we got 12-13 ppg from the 5 spot last year and would think that would improve at least some with additional experience. We have to replace our 3 leading scorers (45 ppg) and 3 leading rebounders. Even if we get Dickinson, who plays on the wings - 3 and 4? Juan, Timberlake and Elmarko for 3 spots? That’s pretty small. One of the other freshmen in the starting rotation? Just not sure where the points and rebounds come from if Dickinson doesn’t work out.
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@DCHawker said in Should KU Even Bother Fielding a Basketball team next year?:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Fair enough. Some decent bigger wings, but not really 4s. Is there a reason Knect/CSU, Cleveland/FSU, Hart/MD haven’t been in the mix? I get the love for Dickinson, but we got 12-13 ppg from the 5 spot last year and would think that would improve at least some with additional experience. We have to replace our 3 leading scorers (45 ppg) and 3 leading rebounders. Even if we get Dickinson, who plays on the wings - 3 and 4? Juan, Timberlake and Elmarko for 3 spots? That’s pretty small. One of the other freshmen in the starting rotation? Just not sure where the points and rebounds come from if Dickinson doesn’t work out.
Knecht and Hart both ended up at Tennessee because Self was trying to land Ingram. Hart isn’t someone to count on as a leading scorer anyway based on his 4 years at Maryland. Counting on someone from a low major to come in and be a leading scorer at a high level P5 is a risky proposition and Tennessee is returning a lot of their players and not expecting Knetch to carry the scoring load the way he would need to here. Cleveland has pretty much been an Auburn lock since he announced he was entering the portal.
KU got decent scoring out of Adams and Udeh last season, but KJ can’t rebound and Udeh is an average rebounder. How many of KU’s losses last season were connected to the opponents offensive rebounding? Dickinson fixes that KU’s rebounding issues as well because your 4 and 3 should not be your leading rebounders.
Hunter Dickinson is the focal point of recruiting right now for Self because he addresses a lot of KU’s current issues and if Self misses on this, KU might be in some trouble next season because it’ll be a wait amd see game with players withdrawing from the draft and entering the portal at that point.
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Knecht is not good.
