Coaching Search/AD Thread
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@bskeet I see a reason to let him be the interim and not name anyone officially until after this season.
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@Kcmatt7 Just curious what that reason would be. Usually it’s better to get resolution sooner rather than later.
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@bskeet free try out for a cheap HC. It lets you try to keep some of the recruiting class and it keeps current roster happy.
If he sucks, no harm no foul.
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@bskeet said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Don’t you think they’ll fill the position before the season starts?
Not at this point. KU doesn’t have an athletic director currently. KU will likely want the new AD to make the decision on a football coach. By the time a new AD gets hired, spring practice will have already passed with KU implementing Jones’s overall vision and DeBorg’s offense.
That presents three very big problems with hiring a new head coach after spring practice is over. The first is that the players wanted Jones and naming him interim head coach is preserving this recruiting class which is on the best in KU history and preventing a mass exodus of players and undoing the work of finally fixing KU’s scholarship issues. A new head coach leads to a lot of recruits bailing and going elsewhere along with a bunch of other players since they don’t have to sit out which would leave the new coach in arguably a worse position than what David Beaty inherited from Charlie Weis.
The second issue is that KU’s offensive players would have to learn a second offensive system in 6 months and the defense a new system over the summer after going through spring practice learning DeBorg’s system and continuing to develop Eliot’s defensive system. A new head coach makes all of spring practice meaningless and puts KU further away from being competitive.
The third issue is what kind of quality would be in the staff with a new coach hired in May/June from outside the program. Quality coaches aren’t going to leave their current jobs at that time of year and neither would quality assistant coaches. A staff hired in May/June would be full of red flags and lack of quality.
Naming Emmett Jones the interim is something the players wanted. That means motivation will not an issue for these players because they’re playing for someone they love. If KU doesn’t show any on field progress in 2021, it’ll be much easier to justify the decision to bring in an outside coach like a Lance Leipold because Jones wouldn’t have done enough to earn the job and the players will be much more understanding and accepting because their guy was given a chance.
That’s why you go through the 2021 season with Emmett Jones as the interim and reevaluate after the season.
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Looks like Floodman is in the driver’s seat for the AD position? Sorry if this has been covered already, wanting to confirm.
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@BShark said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Looks like Floodman is in the driver’s seat for the AD position? Sorry if this has been covered already, wanting to confirm.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@BShark said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Looks like Floodman is in the driver’s seat for the AD position? Sorry if this has been covered already, wanting to confirm.
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You hearing anything on who we are high on?
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@Woodrow said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@BShark said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Looks like Floodman is in the driver’s seat for the AD position? Sorry if this has been covered already, wanting to confirm.
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You hearing anything on who we are high on?
Yeah I think Travis Goff (NW), Missy Conboy (ND), Kent McCarthy, Terry Mohaijr (UCF), Allen Greene (Auburn), Jason Booker (Royals), and Banks Floodman are on the list. It’ll get more clear once they hire the search firm officially and everyone is more directly on record with their interest.
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Bookers from here
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I’d love to see them surround the program with guys who were here when it was successful.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
I’d love to see them surround the program with guys who were here when it was successful.
McAnderson would be a great addition as well. Shoot, even Banks coming back as an associate. Anything to get this football program rolling. I’m much bigger college football than basketball fan and would like to not be terrible at it
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Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
Hearing alt about Travis Goff & Mike Harrly- - - -think I’d perfer Harrly from Army
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
Hearing alt about Travis Goff & Mike Harrly- - - -think I’d perfer Harrly from Army
I really doubt it’ll be either. But the search firm has this sucker on lockdown. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the hire was someone not on anyone’s radar.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
Hearing alt about Travis Goff & Mike Harrly- - - -think I’d perfer Harrly from Army
I really doubt it’ll be either. But the search firm has this sucker on lockdown. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the hire was someone not on anyone’s radar.
how about the Lady ? - -heard a lot of things on her too , what about her ? - Can’t remember her name - - - - - Conboy ? - is that right ? - -probably not bites to get old lol
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
Hearing alt about Travis Goff & Mike Harrly- - - -think I’d perfer Harrly from Army
I really doubt it’ll be either. But the search firm has this sucker on lockdown. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the hire was someone not on anyone’s radar.
how about the Lady ? - -heard a lot of things on her too , what about her ? - Can’t remember her name - - - - - Conboy ? - is that right ? - -probably not bites to get old lol
I’ve heard there’s some interest but no idea if she’ll make the final round.
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Expect an announcement Thursday or Friday. Girod will make the decision probably Wednesday.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Expect an announcement Thursday or Friday. Girod will make the decision probably Wednesday.
hoping for a really quality AD. - time to right the ship
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Some chatter it’ll end today. Don’t believe it.
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Now hearing some talk off TOS that it’s over. - Guy named Chun from Washington State out of the Pac 12 , talk was committee was pushing for this . - - Farmer ? - -help buddy. What’s up ? What have you heard if anything on this guy? - -Any Good ? - -Would it be a good hire ? - Help me /us out buddy - any info ?
Also hearing more and more all the time , sounds like to me Monken from Army might be in good shape for the head Coaching position. Again Farmer , your Opinion ? Unless he does away with his triple option offense - -just don’t think that would be a good fit , although also heard he has kind of adapted , Myself kind of Like Liepold from Buffalo , thoughts ?
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Now hearing some talk off TOS that it’s over. - Guy named Chun from Washington State out of the Pac 12 , talk was committee was pushing for this . - - Farmer ? - -help buddy. What’s up ? What have you heard if anything on this guy? - -Any Good ? - -Would it be a good hire ? - Help me /us out buddy - any info ?
Also hearing more and more all the time , sounds like to me Monken from Army might be in good shape for the head Coaching position. Again Farmer , your Opinion ? Unless he does away with his triple option offense - -just don’t think that would be a good fit , although also heard he has kind of adapted , Myself kind of Like Liepold from Buffalo , thoughts ?
Don’t believe a thing. I’m totally convinced nobody knows ish about the AD search as far as candidates. I’m sticking with my late this week timeline though.
On Monken, if he runs something like Coastal I’d be for it. Still prefer Leipold though.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Now hearing some talk off TOS that it’s over. - Guy named Chun from Washington State out of the Pac 12 , talk was committee was pushing for this . - - Farmer ? - -help buddy. What’s up ? What have you heard if anything on this guy? - -Any Good ? - -Would it be a good hire ? - Help me /us out buddy - any info ?
Also hearing more and more all the time , sounds like to me Monken from Army might be in good shape for the head Coaching position. Again Farmer , your Opinion ? Unless he does away with his triple option offense - -just don’t think that would be a good fit , although also heard he has kind of adapted , Myself kind of Like Liepold from Buffalo , thoughts ?
Don’t believe a thing. I’m totally convinced nobody knows ish about the AD search as far as candidates. I’m sticking with my late this week timeline though.
On Monken, if he runs something like Coastal I’d be for it. Still prefer Leipold though.
ya who knows but hope we find out something before long. Get our AD in place. - -And ya actually that’s who I’d prefer to is Leipold - yet you have a lot of people say NOT another Buffalo Coach we have been that route. - - Umm news flash Leipold is not Turner Gill
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Rumors that Girod has his person. Trying to chase down who…
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Rumors are false.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Rumors are false.
ya hearing rumors possibly of the Coach too - - - - Hopefully NOT Fritz
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Rumors are false.
ya hearing rumors possibly of the Coach too - - - - Hopefully NOT Fritz
TBD. I don’t think Fritz is a lock by any stretch.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Rumors are false.
ya hearing rumors possibly of the Coach too - - - - Hopefully NOT Fritz
TBD. I don’t think Fritz is a lock by any stretch.
sure hope not - - - wanting Leipold
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We need to get this AD wrapped up get him in place so we can concentrate on hiring the next Football Coach. - -been hearing Goff quite a bit - if he is let’s get him wrapped up so we can concentrate on getting our next football Coach in place, & not lose a year of recruiting. Hard to sell a kid on a School/program with no Coach.
We have had a couple pretty good years in recruiting, don’t need any set backs. Been hearing Leipold from some on his staff according to insiders that he really wants to Coach at KU - would love to have him - can’t let this chance slip away. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well, not going to be this week. There’s some internal friction.
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@jayballer67 Even when the new AD gets hired, there’s not a great reason to hire a new coach after spring practice is done. The quality of the staff wouldn’t be great because most assistant coaches aren’t leaving their job during the summer. You wreck multiple recruiting classes because you lose a lot of recent recruits and start off way behind in 2022 recruiting.
Whoever the new AD is needs to let Jones coach this season, then reevaluate after the season. If Jones struggles early, then recruits can wait to see who the next coach is. The current players could be less likely to transfer out because the guy they wanted was given a fair shot at the job so there’s going to be more acceptance of the whatever the outcome is next season.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 Even when the new AD gets hired, there’s not a great reason to hire a new coach after spring practice is done. The quality of the staff wouldn’t be great because most assistant coaches aren’t leaving their job during the summer. You wreck multiple recruiting classes because you lose a lot of recent recruits and start off way behind in 2022 recruiting.
Whoever the new AD is needs to let Jones coach this season, then reevaluate after the season. If Jones struggles early, then recruits can wait to see who the next coach is. The current players could be less likely to transfer out because the guy they wanted was given a fair shot at the job so there’s going to be more acceptance of the whatever the outcome is next season.
That’s very true. There is a big part of me that wants them to leave Jones alone, let him have his shot for the Regular season for more then one reason. Who knows maybe just maybe the guy might have a knack, I know he has a great relationship with the current players or at least a decent amount of them. Doesn’t necessarily translate into W’s, think he will get the most out of these kids.
Believe it or not there IS some talent on this roster, the defensive secondary is coming, could be a pretty salty group in another year. I think possibly we have the makings of actual QB or two - -given time. - -I truly jumped the gun on this late Transfer QB , the more I see of him the more I like got a good arm, for sure has some juice, plus I think in a year or two our two FR QB’S could surprise.
I think the big question as has been these past few years is can we assemble a group of OL that can give these guys time to make plays, if you can’t protect - doesn’t matter who you have back there, really looking for improvement in BOTH lines OL & DL. - need more out of the DL to put pressure on opposing QB’S
The big thing I don’t want to see is disruption in recruiting, have had 2 pretty decent classes coming in can’t afford to disrupt this. Again let Jones run the team this year none of this coming in in the middle and trying to shake things up - -AGAIN. - -If he starts the Season as Coach - -let him finish this season as Coach - -Just want to see this as a competitive team again , a team where a person can enjoy a Saturday afternoon feeling like we actually have a shot at some W’s and not having to worry about how be the spread of us getting our ass kicked on yet ANOTHER Saturday afternoon. Miss the days of being able to go to the Stadium and enjoy a competitive game. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Well, not going to be this week. There’s some internal friction.
go figure
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Get the right AD. There is a template. It’s called Bob Frederick.
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Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure it’s Goff.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure it’s Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it’s a good hire with him if indeed that’s who it is ?
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure it’s Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it’s a good hire with him if indeed that’s who it is ?
Considering the circumstances I think it’s a good hire. Goff is green but has been around one of the best in the business for quite awhile.
I also think the coaching search moves FAST now. The search firm already is vetting and gauging interest. Leipold would take the gig tomorrow if offered.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says it’s Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure it’s Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it’s a good hire with him if indeed that’s who it is ?
Considering the circumstances I think it’s a good hire. Goff is green but has been around one of the best in the business for quite awhile.
I also think the coaching search moves FAST now. The search firm already is vetting and gauging interest. Leipold would take the gig tomorrow if offered.
I agree with you on how quick they move. With the Ad in place , everything I’ve been hearing that Leipold really wants this job, and I think again from things I’ve heard well John Q Public wants Leipold also - - hell I think he would be sweet also - -and I’m thinking he is in pretty favorable spot with the group looking for the Coach.
All things considered really don’t think we could ask for much better, plus I think from everything I’ve heard and his field success he can turn things around. We’ve went with the Big Name Coach’s and look where tha has got us , really don’t think I want to go that route anymore. - -Thing is - -are we just another step up higher of a stepping stone for Leipold? Just time will tell , not sure how he does in his recruiting but I’m hyped about his possible hire anyways - - I’m ready to give him his shot. - -Hell we might have a New A d by Monday and maybe even a Coach by Friday. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by week’s end. Thinking more end of April-ish
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by week’s end. Thinking more end of April-ish
Really? still that far out on a Coach? - -thought the committee or Search had been having guys come in for interviews. - - Do they have to wait for the Ad or couldn’t Girod himself give the go ahead for that. That if it is stil that far out makes me think they won’t hire on during the Season and just let Jones have the reins for this Season
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by week’s end. Thinking more end of April-ish
Really? still that far out on a Coach? - -thought the committee or Search had been having guys come in for interviews. - - Do they have to wait for the Ad or couldn’t Girod himself give the go ahead for that. That if it is stil that far out makes me think they won’t hire on during the Season and just let Jones have the reins for this Season
Yeah, the AD will want to do his own interviews in all likelihood even though TurnKey did their vetting and all that.
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Goff. Wednesday presser.
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LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
would love that BUT from what I saw today more like Monken or Fritz – I just really don’t want Fritz - - would love Leipold but doesn’t seem that’s happening
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young - - - really young BUT maybe that’s what this system needs young entergentic fresh meat - -someone who is gonna be aggressive and get after it - -i like it
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Ok so now we have our AD - - now time to nail down the Coach and umm - - -NO please - - NO not Fritz - -come on down Leipold
