Mitch and Teahan
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@Kcmatt7 said in Mitch and Teahan:
What about Marcus? What’s he going to do?
Give a speech Saturday, then make a final decision after the season. I’d say 90% chance he leaves
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So how do we feel about Mitch coming back / - for me it’s fine , Mitch can provide spot minutes , pretty fair shot blocker , does dirty work takes charges , so for me it’s ok - he loves KU. The real question is does Marcus? - According to local sports program today here in Topeka he said he is going through the Senior activities and will see after the Season is over.
They tried to break it down and see in plain terms what that rally meant - -more or less is there any kind of Chance can I make money whether it be in the NBA OR Oversea’s or where ever. - -They said he will get with the Coach’s and talk it over , they said you know how Coach Self feels, he would take 50 Marcus Garrett’s
I really like Marcus defensively - has improved some offensively but guess you still have to say some liability on the offensive end. Yet I would take him for his defense , the question how does these guys effect our Scholi’s?- My understanding they won’t count against them at all. - Does that mean they would have to pay their own way this coming year? - -how woudl that effect us if any in 2022 ?I mean will them coming back in 2021 effect available Scholi’s for 2022?
I think if he wants to come back - - let him , you can’t replace experience. You bring those two back with the guys returning , I don’t think Wilson or Abaji going anywhere with what we got coming in could be pretty Salty agian. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Mitch and Teahan:
@Kcmatt7 said in Mitch and Teahan:
What about Marcus? What’s he going to do?
Give a speech Saturday, then make a final decision after the season. I’d say 90% chance he leaves
I say about 70-75 % chance he comes back
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Typically, I’d say Marcus should go out and start making $ while he has his health.
Not sure with this year. If he doesn’t test out well for the NBA I’m not so sure it would be in his best interest to try to go abroad now because of Covid. Not sure what that is doing to the offers players receive. Think I would put him at 50/50 for now. Also may depend a bit how we do in March, though I’m not so sure .
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@Kcmatt7 said in Mitch and Teahan:
I’m sure sixth year is the charm for Mitch extending his range. Sure of it.
You made my day!
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I don’t even want to try to figure out how this will mess with the scholarship situation. Especially if Marcus stays.
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Doesn’t count
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@Crimsonorblue22 you can’t have more than 13 guys on scholarship can you?
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@Kcmatt7 I believe this will end up like football where super seniors don’t count against the cap.
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Mitch back in his same role as next season is a good thing. His leadership while the team possibly navigates NCAA sanctions will be invaluable. If Curry or Muscadin are good enough next season to supplant Lightfoot in the rotation, the Mitch essentially becomes an extra coach for KU.
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Welcome back, Mitch!
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Do we have another big guy coming in? Pretty sure 6 year Mitch is still going to be better than Sophomore Gethro…
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@DanR said in Mitch and Teahan:
Do we have another big guy coming in? Pretty sure 6 year Mitch is still going to be better than Sophomore Gethro…
Right now the entire class can play in the post. Though KJ isn’t the biggest and while Zach has the size he probably won’t be ready for the physicality yet. Hopefully the JUCO kid can give us 5-10 minutes down low. I’d love to get a transfer big but it doesn’t appear to be on the table.
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@FarmerJayhawk you hearing anything on Och and Jalen? I think we need one of those guys back, ideally both.
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@DanR said in Mitch and Teahan:
Do we have another big guy coming in? Pretty sure 6 year Mitch is still going to be better than Sophomore Gethro…
All 3 of KU’s signees for 2021 are post players. Zach Clemence and KJ Adams are 4’s. Clemence is very much a finesse player who has a very similar game to Perry Ellis. Clemence being 6-9 means he could develop into a small ball 5 down the road. KJ Adams is an undersized 4 at 6-7, 200 lbs. so he may have to learn how to play some 3 as well. Adams is also going to need more time to develop because he’s not good enough to crack a 7-8 man rotation next season.
Sydney Curry at 6-8, 260 lbs. is going to be a 5 for Self. He is very much a power player that tries to rip the rim off on dunks. His body needs work though because he doesn’t have enough quickness to guard B12 post players at this point. He will need to go through the David McCormack system of body transformation to try and drop about 20 lbs. so he can have enough quickness to to play.
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@BShark said in Mitch and Teahan:
@FarmerJayhawk you hearing anything on Och and Jalen? I think we need one of those guys back, ideally both.
They’ll both be back. Neither one are NBA caliber players at this point. Ochai just doesn’t have the skill level for the NBA and Jalen needs more time to develop his game to give himself a chance at the NBA probably in 2023 at the earliest.
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Dotson and Malik both left to play in the gleague (with Malik ultimately ending up overseas). Hopefully both Och and Jalen enjoy college enough to want to stay.
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@BShark Dotson not getting drafted at all was one of the biggest surprises of last year’s draft and Newman was dead set on leaving after 1 year regardless.
Ochai’s only hope at making the NBA is as a 3&D player, but he still needs to become a much better shooter to be considered for that role. Ochai is someone who’s likely going to have a long career in Europe/overseas with his skill set.
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Okay, I’ll say it, I would prefer that Mitch move on, but maybe Coach knows something that we don’t. Teahan is a walk-on, so it doesn’t matter.
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@BShark strongly agree. Haven’t heard any rumors of them being dead set on anything. My guess is Och tests and comes back. Jalen would be not good in a combine setting so I think he’ll come back. No NBA team wants a meh athlete that can’t shoot. He has to prove he can be a consistent perimeter threat, improve FT shooting, and figure out how to drive left.
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@Marco said in Mitch and Teahan:
Okay, I’ll say it, I would prefer that Mitch move on, but maybe Coach knows something that we don’t. Teahan is a walk-on, so it doesn’t matter.
How does bringing Mitch back next season hurt anything? He doesn’t count against the scholarship limits for next year so nobody has to leave to make room for him. With 3 new bigs coming in next season, is having someone like Mitch who can help teach those guys the system when Self isn’t around really a bad thing? Self also still needs a back up for Dave so why is having Mitch around a bad thing there? If Sydney Curry is good enough to fit that role, then it’s his, if not having Mitch will fill a very large hole in the rotation.
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Mitch coming back is a free role. I love it, tbh.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Mitch and Teahan:
@Marco said in Mitch and Teahan:
Okay, I’ll say it, I would prefer that Mitch move on, but maybe Coach knows something that we don’t. Teahan is a walk-on, so it doesn’t matter.
How does bringing Mitch back next season hurt anything? He doesn’t count against the scholarship limits for next year so nobody has to leave to make room for him. With 3 new bigs coming in next season, is having someone like Mitch who can help teach those guys the system when Self isn’t around really a bad thing? Self also still needs a back up for Dave so why is having Mitch around a bad thing there? If Sydney Curry is good enough to fit that role, then it’s his, if not having Mitch will fill a very large hole in the rotation.
very well said. Bringing Mitch back can only help
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@BShark said in Mitch and Teahan:
Dotson and Malik both left to play in the gleague (with Malik ultimately ending up overseas). Hopefully both Och and Jalen enjoy college enough to want to stay.
Jalen is not ready for the NBA by some length. - -he is more like a three year player then maybe - - maybe go
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The real question is whether Marcus back would help. Can’t be 2-12 Marcus. 2-6 is fine
His D could obviously help. But is he able to take a backseat on offense?
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@Kcmatt7 It wont count for next year however depending on next year’s class and who comes and goes, it can have a ripple effect beyond 2022. Self will have to manage it carefully.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Mitch and Teahan:
@Marco said in Mitch and Teahan:
Okay, I’ll say it, I would prefer that Mitch move on, but maybe Coach knows something that we don’t. Teahan is a walk-on, so it doesn’t matter.
How does bringing Mitch back next season hurt anything? He doesn’t count against the scholarship limits for next year so nobody has to leave to make room for him. With 3 new bigs coming in next season, is having someone like Mitch who can help teach those guys the system when Self isn’t around really a bad thing? Self also still needs a back up for Dave so why is having Mitch around a bad thing there? If Sydney Curry is good enough to fit that role, then it’s his, if not having Mitch will fill a very large hole in the rotation.
I misunderstood, wasn’t sure how the scholarship thing was working. If he doesn’t count against us, it’s great that he’s coming back.
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@AsadZ That is what I am curious about.
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@AsadZ said in Mitch and Teahan:
@Kcmatt7 It wont count for next year however depending on next year’s class and who comes and goes, it can have a ripple effect beyond 2022. Self will have to manage it carefully.
Lightfoot won’t affect 2022 recruiting. The IARP ruling is the biggest influence on 2022 recruiting right now along with Marcus Garrett’s decision having the second largest impact.
