2020-21 Non-conference Schedule
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The non-conference portion of KU’s schedule has been released and it appears pretty stacked like usual.
Nov. 10- Kentucky (Champions Classic, Chicago)
Nov. 13- Southern Utah
Nov. 16- Eastern Illinois
Nov. 20- Stony Brook
Nov. 26- Georgetown/UCLA/Virginia (Wooden Legacy, Anaheim)
Nov. 27- Georgetown/UCLA/Virginia (Wooden Legacy, Anaheim)
Dec. 3- Creighton
Dec. 8- Omaha
Dec. 12- Missouri (Sprint Center)
Dec. 19- USC
Dec. 22- @Colorado
Dec. 29- Harvard
Jan. 30 TBD (Big 12/SEC Challenge)
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Even this far out, this schedule looks like a gauntlet for KU. KU is a borderline top 5 preseason team next season, top 10 for sure. Kentucky, UCLA, Virginia, and Creighton should all be ranked when KU plays them and USC could be ranked by that time so that’s potentially 5 ranked teams before B12 play starts. I’m going take a guess that Tennessee in Knoxville is going to be our B12/SEC game so that should be another ranked team. I’m also going to guess that we play UCLA in the Wooden and Virginia plays Georgetown so I wouldn’t be shocked if that ends up being UCLA on the 26th and Virginia the 27th.
Throw in to that mix that Baylor and Texas Tech are both projected 10 teams next season and KU’s looking at potentially up to 7 games against top 10 teams (Virginia, Creighton, Tennessee, Baylor x2, Tech x2). That’s a meat grinder of a schedule next season.
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Yes! Missouri!
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This is actually a very manageable non-conference schedule. Will be interesting to see who we get in the SEC/Challenge- Guessing either @LSU or @Florida. It’s not an easy schedule by any means (when is it ever) but manageable.
UCLA lost their two best players at the moment. Leading Scorer Chris Smith declared for the draft (although he could pull out) and 5 star recruit Dashean Nix went pro. Not a Top 25 team without either of them.
Georgetown lost their best player to transfer yesterday. Their other top player went pro.
Creighton will be good, probably a Top 15 team. They did lose Alexander to the Pro’s which was a huge loss. They would be Top 5 good with him.
USC has had a lot of roster turnover. Very little talent on the perimeter remains and they only have 1 spot left to get someone who can score.
Colorado will likely take a step down after losing Tyler Bey to the Pro’s.
Virginia will be good as they get the transfer Hauser eligible. The inside/out combo of Clark & Huff would be tough as well. Kentucky is Kentucky. 7 freshman, 2 upperclassmen.
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@wissox said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
Yes! Missouri!
Wallop City… And I’m not knocking that you are looking forward to the game (I’m looking forward to beating them too). But man, for real, when was the last time that Mizzou was nationally relevant?
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@Marco Well, every team plays their cupcakes during the non conference season. Just look at it as Missouri’s our cupcake warmup game!
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
This is actually a very manageable non-conference schedule. Will be interesting to see who we get in the SEC/Challenge- Guessing either @LSU or @Florida. It’s not an easy schedule by any means (when is it ever) but manageable.
UCLA lost their two best players at the moment. Leading Scorer Chris Smith declared for the draft (although he could pull out) and 5 star recruit Dashean Nix went pro. Not a Top 25 team without either of them.
Georgetown lost their best player to transfer yesterday. Their other top player went pro.
Creighton will be good, probably a Top 15 team. They did lose Alexander to the Pro’s which was a huge loss. They would be Top 5 good with him.
USC has had a lot of roster turnover. Very little talent on the perimeter remains and they only have 1 spot left to get someone who can score.
Colorado will likely take a step down after losing Tyler Bey to the Pro’s.
Virginia will be good as they get the transfer Hauser eligible. The inside/out combo of Clark & Huff would be tough as well. Kentucky is Kentucky. 7 freshman, 2 upperclassmen.
I’ve seen some pre season predictions that STILL has them as a top 5
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Looks like at least one game will have to either be dropped or rescheduled as the Ivy League has announced they will not participate in any sports this fall.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
Looks like at least one game will have to either be dropped or rescheduled as the Ivy League has announced they will not participate in any sports this fall.
Nothing hasn’t been official on the Kansas side
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Basketball isn’t a fall sport
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tip of the iceberg. Stanford dropped 11 sports yesterday. More schools I’m afraid will be cutting
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Lots of sports that lose money.
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curious as to how many sports we have, in the article about Stanford they mentioned they had like 36 sports - - I don’t think we have that do we ?
A lot of these sports they are dropping is to say the least is not major sports - - well maybe I should rephrase that around here anyways. - -I think like there was curling , Men’s Volleyball , I think fencing possibly ? Makes it even that much more important for us to in some fashion at least get a majority portion of a season in with our Major sports schedule of - - -Basketball &Football. Not sure if we can afford another season hit.
Think if I heard right we have 16 different sports programs here and I think people are right I think there is going to be more schools follw suit as Stanford - - hope not us. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Basketball isn’t a fall sport
Not officially, but considering the season begins in October with practice and Harvard not having any classes on campus this year, do you really think they’re gonna bring in just the athletes while everyone else stays home?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 would make sense to bring them in to an empty campus so it doesn’t spread. I’ll bet they’ll cancel that too in the end.
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@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@Texas-Hawk-10 would make sense to bring them in to an empty campus so it doesn’t spread. I’ll bet they’ll cancel that too in the end.
Except most conferences have already publicly said that if there are no in person classes, they won’t bring in athletes either. Considering Stanford just dropped a bunch of sports, it could get real ugly for non-revenue sports at a lot of schools.
This is also why so many major conference schools are pushing for at least a hybrid model so they can bring in athletes and have a season because of how much money schools make off of their TV deals.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m sure they are the B10 is looking at only playing conference games. I’d say it’s only a matter of time before everything is cancelled at this point.
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Stanford had the most varsity sports of any school in the country by a fair amount. I’m honestly surprised they lasted this long.
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@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m sure they are the B10 is looking at only playing conference games. I’d say it’s only a matter of time before everything is cancelled at this point.
There’s too much money on the line for P5 conferences to cancel football and basketball. Those TV deals fund a very significant % of athletic departments at this level. In basketball, we’ll probably see the preseason tournaments get cancelled and a reduction in non conference games to regional opponents to minimize travel.
With the B10’s decision, I’m curious what’s going to happen to Notre Dame and BYU in football since they’re independent. ND could at least probably fill out a schedule with ACC teams since that’s their non football affiliation even though partnering with the B10 this year would make more sense for football because of being geographically in the middle of the B10 footprint.
BYU might be in more trouble trying to play football this year if the MWC, Pac 12, and Big 12 go conference only since BYU’s non football affiliation is with the non-football sponsoring West Coast Conference.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m sure they are the B10 is looking at only playing conference games. I’d say it’s only a matter of time before everything is cancelled at this point.
There’s too much money on the line for P5 conferences to cancel football and basketball. Those TV deals fund a very significant % of athletic departments at this level. In basketball, we’ll probably see the preseason tournaments get cancelled and a reduction in non conference games to regional opponents to minimize travel.
With the B10’s decision, I’m curious what’s going to happen to Notre Dame and BYU in football since they’re independent. ND could at least probably fill out a schedule with ACC teams since that’s their non football affiliation even though partnering with the B10 this year would make more sense for football because of being geographically in the middle of the B10 footprint.
BYU might be in more trouble trying to play football this year if the MWC, Pac 12, and Big 12 go conference only since BYU’s non football affiliation is with the non-football sponsoring West Coast Conference.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1281319748341506065?s=20
This is the first time I’m really doubting we get sports at all in the fall.
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Stanford, has cancelled 11 sports programs thus far
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@kjayhawks said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I’m sure they are the B10 is looking at only playing conference games. I’d say it’s only a matter of time before everything is cancelled at this point.
There’s too much money on the line for P5 conferences to cancel football and basketball. Those TV deals fund a very significant % of athletic departments at this level. In basketball, we’ll probably see the preseason tournaments get cancelled and a reduction in non conference games to regional opponents to minimize travel.
With the B10’s decision, I’m curious what’s going to happen to Notre Dame and BYU in football since they’re independent. ND could at least probably fill out a schedule with ACC teams since that’s their non football affiliation even though partnering with the B10 this year would make more sense for football because of being geographically in the middle of the B10 footprint.
BYU might be in more trouble trying to play football this year if the MWC, Pac 12, and Big 12 go conference only since BYU’s non football affiliation is with the non-football sponsoring West Coast Conference.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1281319748341506065?s=20
This is the first time I’m really doubting we get sports at all in the fall.
The TV contracts for the P5 are too valuable which is why P5 leagues are going conference only. Other than the B12, every other league is big enough to play at least 11 games against FBS schools and get their full slate in.
This is also why the NBA is playing 8 regular season games before going into the playoffs and why there’s talk of a separate bubble set up for the other 8 teams so they can reach the number of games needed to meet local TV broadcast numbers and make that money as well because that’s their biggest income source.
I wouldn’t be shocked at all to see FCS and lower cancel football this year, not sure if the G5 will or not yet, but I still have a very difficult time envisioning P5 schools cancelling football this year simply because of the money involved.
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KU’s originally scheduled game against Harvard on Dec. 29 that was cancelled because of Harvard not playing has been replaced by Stephen F. Austin. SFA is a damn good low major program and just last season upset then #1 Duke in OT at Cameron.
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The PAC 12’s decision to cancel all sports for the 2020 calendar year affects 2 possibly 3 KU non-conference games. KU had games scheduled for Dec. 19 against USC in Lawrence and Dec. 22 at Colorado. KU’s preseason tournament this year is the Wooden Legacy in Anaheim where UCLA was one of the teams involved.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I think they would be well served to replace those games with teams from the midwest, if possible.
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There’s a rumor floating around that the Champions Classic could be a round robin in a bubble. dook is going to be really good, but UK and MSU will be down slightly. Could be a good opportunity for us to make up some ground in this deal.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
There’s a rumor floating around that the Champions Classic could be a round robin in a bubble. dook is going to be really good, but UK and MSU will be down slightly. Could be a good opportunity for us to make up some ground in this deal.
ya I read where it looks like KU will be in Orlando for the Champions Classic & then again for the Wooden Legacy. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Not a word about boot camp?
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Don’t know how many others seen this/read this , BUT actually Matt Tait actually believe it or not had a pretty good idea for the Season Non Con actually. I mean would make sense to me but who am I.
Matt said it would make for a really good Non Conference and actually would be pretty simple to do.
Here it is or the jest of it; We were scheduled to play 4 games before the 25th of November , so we are going to lose most those games , so Matt said ok we are in Orlando for the Champions Classic , so start the Classic on the 25th we play Kentucky like we are scheduled to play in the Classic. Then why not just turn the Classic into a Round Robin ?
P;ay Kentucky on the 25th - -Give the teams Thanksgiving off and then have a couple of days then and prepare then have them play on Saturday the 28th of November – KU/MSU - - - UK/Duke , Then give them a Couple of more days rest and prepare then play on the 1st of Dec when the Classic is typically played ? KU/Duke - - - UK/MSU - - hell of a 3 game round robin.
Makes some sense we are already there - - - -we would already be approved in the building - - -and testing and game protocal would help ensure two more games could be played.
So if we got those two additional games then he mentioned maybe just have the Wooden there too while we are there bring in Virginia and the other two teams we already there. That would give us 5 of our 9 non con games and then we have the rest of December to fill out the rest of the Non Con.
Keepthe Creighton game - - -and he said depending on what the Pac 12 might due by that time still be able to have Colorado and or USC game - - then you would always have the possibility of the Big 12/Sec challenge and Kentucky again -would be one hell of a non con.
Think it makes some sense to me - - tough non con but hey play the quality competition - - I like it. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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ESPN is reporting the Champions Classic to be held in Orlando. Also the Wooden Legacy in Orlando. KU is in both.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
ESPN is reporting the Champions Classic to be held in Orlando. Also the Wooden Legacy in Orlando. KU is in both.
ya I seen that and I think this was in Mat’s train of thought - – were already there anyways - - why not
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Pac-12 has agreed to play starting Nov 25th. That potentially saves the USC & Colorado games…
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
Pac-12 has agreed to play starting Nov 25th. That potentially saves the USC & Colorado games…
yes Sir - - could very well save those games. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Has anyone heard - has the Champions Classic actually been finalized and where if it has? -I know they was talking like they were going to try to get it done but haven’t heard anything final and in Concrete anyone know ?
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Saw today that KU and Kentucky are playing Dec 1 in Indianapolis. Not sure if Duke and Michigan State are playing there as well .
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First game against Gonzaga is set for 12:30pm on Thanksgiving Day. Play St Josephs the next day as well in Fort Myers
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@Woodrow said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
Saw today that KU and Kentucky are playing Dec 1 in Indianapolis. Not sure if Duke and Michigan State are playing there as well .
Duke and MSU are playing in Durham.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Are you joking?
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@wissox https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/champions-classic-will-feature-kentucky-vs-kansas-in-indianapolis-michigan-state-on-road-at-duke/
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Wow that’s strange. Of course, it’s 2020 so…
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Smh at the Duke/Sparty game in Durham
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Pretty on-brand for Duke.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
Pretty on-brand for Duke.
Coach K at his finest
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I read that ESPN had mentioned or entertained the idea but guess not that seriously and not sure how much influence they would of had - -BUT guess it had at least been mentioned about Kentucky playing at the Phog for a minute - -but we see who has MORE pull lol
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
Smh at the Duke/Sparty game in Durham
Duke and MSU played in East Lansing last season as part of the ACC/B10 challenge. Actually pretty reasonable that since the last on campus meeting was at MSU that the next one would be in Durham.
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@jayballer67 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
I read that ESPN had mentioned or entertained the idea but guess not that seriously and not sure how much influence they would of had - -BUT guess it had at least been mentioned about Kentucky playing at the Phog for a minute - -but we see who has MORE pull lol
The MSU/Duke game has nothing to do with how pull Duke has. They played each other at MSU last season in the ACC/B10 Challenge so logic would dictate the next on campus game between the two should be in Durham at Duke.
The reason they’re playing on campus instead of in Indy with KU/Kentucky is because of the ACC and B10 Covid protocols not matching what the B12/SEC have in place in regards to neutral court games sontte ACC/B10 couldn’t come to an agreement to play their game in Indy as well.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
@jayballer67 said in 2020-21 Non-conference Schedule:
I read that ESPN had mentioned or entertained the idea but guess not that seriously and not sure how much influence they would of had - -BUT guess it had at least been mentioned about Kentucky playing at the Phog for a minute - -but we see who has MORE pull lol
The MSU/Duke game has nothing to do with how pull Duke has. They played each other at MSU last season in the ACC/B10 Challenge so logic would dictate the next on campus game between the two should be in Durham at Duke.
The reason they’re playing on campus instead of in Indy with KU/Kentucky is because of the ACC and B10 Covid protocols not matching what the B12/SEC have in place in regards to neutral court games sontte ACC/B10 couldn’t come to an agreement to play their game in Indy as well.
well thank you for that
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Look, as a UNC employee I have a contractual obligation to dump on K and dook at every opportunity. Suffice it to say, this smells like K ducking another tough game. Sad!
