2020 Recruiting
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Andre is a 4 year guy. Is he better then Harris who we just took? I say we look for an elite option like we are. I see the value in offering. May just be that.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Andre is a 4 year guy. Is he better then Harris who we just took? I say we look for an elite option like we are. I see the value in offering. May just be that.
Could be that Bill is hedging that at least one of the two will turn out.
I don’t expect an elite PG to get scared away by any of the PGs projected to be on the roster in 2020-2021.
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@Kcmatt7 I do… Not that I necessarily want them to be - would take Nix in a heartbeat! - but we would already have McBride, Harris and Garrett. That is a pretty deep and talented group.
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Marco said:
@Kcmatt7 I do… Not that I necessarily want them to be - would take Nix in a heartbeat! - but we would already have McBride, Harris and Garrett. That is a pretty deep and talented group.
Garrett isn’t a PG. I don’t understand why people keep lumping him in with the PGs. He hasn’t been one since he got here. He isn’t one right now. And he won’t be one next season.
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Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Andre is a 4 year guy. Is he better then Harris who we just took? I say we look for an elite option like we are. I see the value in offering. May just be that.
Could be that Bill is hedging that at least one of the two will turn out.
I don’t expect an elite PG to get scared away by any of the PGs projected to be on the roster in 2020-2021.
I agree Bill has sent a lot of offers out in this class and I don’t see anyone being scared away. The only way that happens is if McBride wiggles himself an established backup role and shows the combination of playmaking and facilitating that he can provide. TBD on that though.
I want Love from this class first and foremost. I think we have the best shot with him right now the way his recruitment is trending. Nix obviously is a big fish as well with tremendous passing ability. Bryce Thompson’s recruitment has certainly taken some turns recently. Not sure what’s happening there but my dream class was Love/Thompson. If we can land one of the two we should feel pretty good about our lead guard options.
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Marco said:
@Kcmatt7 I do… Not that I necessarily want them to be - would take Nix in a heartbeat! - but we would already have McBride, Harris and Garrett. That is a pretty deep and talented group.
More talented then Nix ? - - - I think not. - - If Nix would not come because of these guys -then I wouldn’t want him - always have sai - - always will say. - -If your as good as people say you are – if you think your as good as you say you are - then Nix won’t be scared off by these guys - prove your talent on the court - -in competition - it will play it’self out - - -if your a type of guy that just wants to come to the school and be given the spot/handed to you? - -then find a school that will let you do that - -I’m not interested in players that aren’t interested having to compete for their spot on the floor - -shows a sign of lazyiness - -non competitiveness.
I don’t think Nix or Love either one would back away just because McBride or Harris were already here - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 I didn’t say that he was more talented than Nix.
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Happens all the time in recruiting though with kids choosing schools based on the depth chart. I couldn’t imagine KU landing or aggressively going after a PG if Devon wasn’t almost a lock to leave after this season? You can’t sell playing time to an elite kid if he’s going to be stuck behind Devon. But Self has a good message to sell if he’s already looking for his replacement with the expectation he’s leaving and the options behind him are unproven freshman right now. There’s always a chance a kid will be scared by the fact Self does have a few options on the roster but what can ya do. It’s recruiting. That’s why KU rarely goes after just one guy at a position.
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 I didn’t say that he was more talented than Nix.
no you just listed players that would be there - -I wasn’t pointing out that you had said ONE specific player - you listed McBride - - Garret - & Harris and talking about he may not come with those three - -All I’m saying not ONE of them more talented then him - -there would be NO reason for him not to come even with those three - -he should be able to win that spot
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BeddieKU23 said:
Happens all the time in recruiting though with kids choosing schools based on the depth chart. I couldn’t imagine KU landing or aggressively going after a PG if Devon wasn’t almost a lock to leave after this season? You can’t sell playing time to an elite kid if he’s going to be stuck behind Devon. But Self has a good message to sell if he’s already looking for his replacement with the expectation he’s leaving and the options behind him are unproven freshman right now. There’s always a chance a kid will be scared by the fact Self does have a few options on the roster but what can ya do. It’s recruiting. That’s why KU rarely goes after just one guy at a position.
Your 100 % right if Devon was coming back - -and your 100% right we don’t have to worry about that - -we know he is gone. - but if he was coming back - -no way would KU be recruiting a player of the caliber of Nix OR Love - - - But Devon isn’t coming back thus recruiting others like Nix & Love
Even with the 3 that was mentioned - If I were Nix or Love I wouldn’t be scared away for the opportunity to play with a blue blood program because of the other 3 that was mentioned. - I would have enough confidence in myself if I were as good asa people say - or if I felt I was that good - -I sure wouldn’t run from an offer from KU because of McBride - - Garett - -or Harris - - if someone was to tell me he wouldn’t or couldn’t beat these guys out for minutes - -then there is one of two things - -Either I’m not as good as being hyped -or I don’t want to work for the position - me - -I would let my game do the talking against those 3 - - AND FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT MY CHANCES. – -rock chalk all day long baby
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@jayballer73 Which is what I am getting at, many highly ranked players want to be all but guaranteed a starting spot. Maybe Nix and Love don’t fit into that category, hope they don’t, but if they do they might look at a point guard position that is already 3-deep if counting Garrett as a bit too deep.
Hell, I hope we do sign Nix or Love, and definitely want to sign Thompson who would get immediate PT at the 2, but the 1 position is more problematic due to the depth. Should we offer them? No doubt about it. But this isn’t the playground, “I’ll put my game up against all comers! I’m the Man, it is me vs. You!” More problematic than that. They believe their college choice to be an audition for the NBA, ofcourse they’re gonna take a look at who else and how many others are already there. We’re crowded at the point, that is just a fact.
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 Which is what I am getting at, many highly ranked players want to be all but guaranteed a starting spot. Maybe Nix and Love don’t fit into that category, hope they don’t, but if they do they might look at a point guard position that is already 3-deep if counting Garrett as a bit too deep.
Hell, I hope we do sign Nix or Love, and definitely want to sign Thompson who would get immediate PT at the 2, but the 1 position is more problematic due to the depth. Should we offer them? No doubt about it. But this isn’t the playground, “I’ll put my game up against all comers! I’m the Man, it is me vs. You!” More problematic than that. They believe their college choice to be an audition for the NBA, ofcourse they’re gonna take a look at who else and how many others are already there. We’re crowded at the point, that is just a fact.
good we can agree - -to disagree - - I just don’t see it that way sorry
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Aren’t the minutes all but guaranteed if those three are the only competition?
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@jayballer73 Garrett, Harris, and McBride isn’t “set”. We need a Nix.
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@dylans I guess that would depend on their being complete scrubs. Hope I’m wrong, it wouldn’t be the first time. Do I want us to sign Nix? Hell yeah, I do.
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Nix and Love. There’s plenty of room. Self’s system works best with 2 point guards on the floor.
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dylans said:
Aren’t the minutes all but guaranteed if those three are the only competition?
Pretty much - -that’s why I would be saying if I’m Nix or Love those three sure wouldn’t be scaring me from not coming don’t care how deep the position is. - -Let those three worrying about Minutes - -I’d be knowing I’ve got mine. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I get what your saying. You want the elite kids to come in and earn their keep. If they are afraid of competition then you get a good glimpse at their state of mind and maybe those kids are not a fit for a tough nosed coach like Self. A kid like Nix is probably only in College 1 year so positioning his brand is important.
Even if Devon was coming back another year I think Caleb Love would still be a major target. He’s a combo guard in my eyes and we know the value those can have on this team. It might be harder to sell with Devon back but I think he’s comfortable playing either guard spot. Should be interesting
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KK Robinson cut his list to 7 with KU among them. #9 ranked PG in the 2020 class. A mix of South to Midwest programs for him. KK is an Arkansas native and is being recruited by Norm.
Arkansas, KU, Iowa St, Illinois, Vandy, TCU & Texas A&M in the mix.
I wonder if we get him on an official. KK is a smooth lefty with good athleticism. Film is good
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If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
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Adam Miller will visit KU. Date TBD. KU or Illinois, right?
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FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we sign (no-brainer) the most high-profile point that we can get. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I’m talking PGs.
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Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we try to sign as high-profile a point as we can. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I’m talking PGs.
Caleb Love
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Adam Miller will visit KU. Date TBD. KU or Illinois, right?
forgot about Miller. Lots of options it looks like for KU at the moment
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Kcmatt7 said:
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we try to sign as high-profile a point as we can. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I’m talking PGs.
Caleb Love
I hear you, Thompson is starting to look a bit problematic, isn’t he?
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Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we sign (no-brainer) the most high-profile point that we can get. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I’m talking PGs.
Trotting out Harris and McBride as our starting guards next season would absolutely terrify me. Harris is an old school PG. He’ll only play on the ball. McBride is more versatile, but it’ll be hard to have them both on the floor given their slight stature. KU has a good chance (i.e. I think KU is in the top 3, will get a visit, and could close) at Thompson, Nix, Miller, Love, and Robinson. I think they want at least 2, maybe 3 of that group depending on how the youngsters develop.
My preference is Nix and Thompson. Both have great size and have complementary skillsets. Nix a traditional PG (probably the best passer in HS basketball) and Thompson is a scorer who can really shoot. Love is right behind them given his stupid wingspan (6’9), athleticism, and developing offensive game.
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BeddieKU23 said:
I get what your saying. You want the elite kids to come in and earn their keep. If they are afraid of competition then you get a good glimpse at their state of mind and maybe those kids are not a fit for a tough nosed coach like Self. A kid like Nix is probably only in College 1 year so positioning his brand is important.
Even if Devon was coming back another year I think Caleb Love would still be a major target. He’s a combo guard in my eyes and we know the value those can have on this team. It might be harder to sell with Devon back but I think he’s comfortable playing either guard spot. Should be interesting
See you understand what I’m trying to say. May not be the best in trying to express what I’m trying to get across - -but what you say - -ya that’s What I’m trying to say. - I’ve always looked at it this way.
If your that so called stud - -getting all the hype/praise poured on you fro these so called recruiting experts - -if your that good - -then you sure in the hell shouldn’t be scared of competition proving that it’s your time - -your position to lose - and if like you say if they run from that - -you do get a good look at their state of mind. - That’s exactly it - -I DON’T want some 5 star stud that just thinks they should walk right in and just have the position given to them.
So if just because we are deep or so called deep at that position with McBride - - Garrett - - Harris there - you won’t come? - -Good – & Good luck - -I DON’T WANT YOU PERIOD. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Marco said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
If KU pushes they can get him. Robinson and McBride are tight. But he’s also down the board a ways.
I say we try to sign as high-profile a point as we can. Bill runs pretty much a three-guard set, I get that, so question. Do you think McBride and Harris are more than serviceable? I.e. can they as sophomores get us to where we want to go, which is always a conference and national 'chip? Where do you think they will play? 1, 2 or three? Who do you think we have more than just a chance to sign? If you say Nix - despite some of my posts - I would certainly not be disappointed. I want Thompson bigtime but he is a two, I’m talking PGs.
Caleb Love
I hear you, Thompson is starting to look a bit problematic, isn’t he?
I don’t have a good read on the situation. Seems like he’s Nike bound, but things can change fast… A bag of cash can travel mighty fast down I-35.
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Let’s see, we’ll lose Dotson and Moss, Agbaji too maybe - guys, trust me, if we sign Nix and either Thompson or Love I would not be the least bit disappointed!
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KU gets the last visit for Caleb Love. October 12-13.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
KU gets the last visit for Caleb Love. October 12-13.
Sounds like UNC is the runaway favorite however.
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BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU gets the last visit for Caleb Love. October 12-13.
Sounds like UNC is the runaway favorite however.
Bossi thinks Kansas. I’ve heard the staff likes their spot as well. Visits will be huge.
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@FarmerJayhawk @BShark Is there a heavy “swoosh” influence at work with Love?
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Little interesting to hear. - - Off Kentucky Board , article where Nix says he STILL would like a visit to UK.
Their posters saying looks like Cal isn’t even really interested that much about him -Saying it’s looking like they are going to be really Guard Top Heavy
They talk like they are more interested in Christopher @ Point And Green at the SG - saying they already have Boston - - Good chance Quickly is back -Juzang good chance he will return - -possibility of Allen back - -and then Clark good chance of him re-classifying and thinkin they have a great shot at him
Sounds fine with me - -be just one less School we would have to go up against for the possibility of coming. - -Talking about Nix is really big/solid - - great passer - - but knock on him I guess is his jump shot – has no shot – - well we shall see how it turns out - -hopefully we can get a visit from him - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Have we heard anymore on the JT Thor thing? - -Do we know is he going to visit or what? - -Do we want? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Anybody else heard anything on a offer to Javante Brown ? = - - -KU - - Texas A & M - - - U Conn - - -Indiana - - -Marquette - - Stanford – & Purdue - -7 footer - -I looked and off 247 he like ranked 115 th? - - ummmmm - this is what we want? - - just curious - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Hawk8086 said:
@FarmerJayhawk @BShark Is there a heavy “swoosh” influence at work with Love?
Haven’t heard of anything out of the ordinary.
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@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
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jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
All I really know is he’s very large and very Canadian
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FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
All I really know is he’s very large and very Canadian
Which Brown?
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@BShark Kwame has four years of eligibility left. A bit long in the tooth, though.
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BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 Thor will visit. Not sure when. Could be Late Night.
Not much will happen with Brown unless (until?) he reclassifies to 2020.
Would we want Brown - looks like he might be a project - -4 yr player - -any info on him?
All I really know is he’s very large and very Canadian
Which Brown?
Javonte.
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I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
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Woodrow said:
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
Brakefield is a big take.
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Woodrow said:
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
He announced it’s happening. Prediction: Kentucky, Maryland, Alabama, KU, UCLA.
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Woodrow said:
I read yesterday that Nix was going to cut his list to 5 today. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Also we made the top 10 for Jaemyn Brakefield. Bot sure how big of a player KU is in that one though.
I don’t think we are a player for Brakefield - -interesting to see we even made the top 10. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Anybody know for sure exactly how serious things are with RJ Davis? - - I mean are we in any kind of shape with him or what? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer73 said:
Anybody know for sure exactly how serious things are with RJ Davis? - - I mean are we in any kind of shape with him or what? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Definitely behind a handful of guys on our board.
