2019 Transfer List
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@Kcmatt7 Ha - I don’t want facts to get in the way of a good narrative…
Thanks for setting me straight. But, has that been the rule or is this year an exception?
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@DCHawker I am saying we should only take a transfer to fill a hole. Like next years team needs a shooter so we should be looking for a shooter. ( Next years team needs a lot )
I am not advocating to become the next Iowa St. or transfer U, but I don’t think we should look at it is taboo and be afraid to take one every now and again. If Kentucky didn’t take Reid Travis they would not be in the S16 and contending for another title.
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@DCHawker An exception. As has Reid Travis at UK.
What is happening more and more though is teams are able to build a high caliber team with transfers, or in a case like this season, add that final piece.
Nevada made a FF run around transfers. Houston has transfers this season. Nova won the Championship with one last season. Gonzaga went to the NC last season with a team based around transfers. It’s has really changed the game as of late.
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Bucknell Transfer Nathan Sestina is taking a visit to Kentucky.
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Isaiah Joe from Arkansas would be worth a look of he transferred out. 6-5 twig. Shot 8 threes a game at a .414 clip. Would have led KU in steals (although I’m sure a good chunk of that comes from the Mike Anderson system). Would have 3 years of eligibility left.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/isaiah-joe-1.html
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I count Lawson as a miss. 4 scholarship years tied up between Dedrick and KJ for one meh year from Dedrick that resulted in a third place Big 12 finish.
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@dylans What more could Dedric have done than average a very efficient double-double and lead the team in scoring? Dedric was absolutely fantastic this season, imo.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
I wonder if Kira Lewis would be interested? He may bolt after Avery got canned. KU was on him as a possible 2019 guy.
He has entered the transfer portal
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dylans said:
I count Lawson as a miss. 4 scholarship years tied up between Dedrick and KJ for one meh year from Dedrick that resulted in a third place Big 12 finish.
My gods.
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Woodrow said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
I wonder if Kira Lewis would be interested? He may bolt after Avery got canned. KU was on him as a possible 2019 guy.
He has entered the transfer portal
Wow this is the best player yet to enter.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Woodrow said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
I wonder if Kira Lewis would be interested? He may bolt after Avery got canned. KU was on him as a possible 2019 guy.
He has entered the transfer portal
Wow this is the best player yet to enter.
DO WANT. Plenty of size to play the 2 if he can get eligible immediately.
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Kira Lewis is definitely a big time want.
And wow at Lard transferring. Writing was on the wall this year with suspensions and less PT but he will be a good player for another program.
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Apparently KU is interested in https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-ryan-1.html
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@BShark yeah Lard did not have a good go of it in Ames. So many suspensions. Also, can we not with Ryan? Not impressed.
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@FarmerJayhawk I sure hope it doesn’t come to him for a forward. Just get Hurt or Precious and it’s all good.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@BShark yeah Lard did not have a good go of it in Ames. So many suspensions. Also, can we not with Ryan? Not impressed.
That’s a no with me for Ryan either - -not impressed - - I’ll take a pass. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk I sure hope it doesn’t come to him for a forward. Just get Hurt or Precious and it’s all good.
Well I dunno BUT after listening to Hurt’s interview with Rivals - has given me renewed hope/interest. - maybe a real reach - quite possibly reading to much into it but just sounded like he really was interested in Ku and Coach’s just everything about KU - -we will see. - -see how this last month goes before his announcement. - We deserve some good news for change – - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk I sure hope it doesn’t come to him for a forward. Just get Hurt or Precious and it’s all good.
Well I dunno BUT after listening to Hurt’s interview with Rivals - has given me renewed hope/interest. - maybe a real reach - quite possibly reading to much into it but just sounded like he really was interested in Ku and Coach’s just everything about KU - -we will see. - -see how this last month goes before his announcement. - We deserve some good news for change – - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
My honest take is Hurt is still open to KU, dook, and UNC. I think a lot of the dook hype lately has been media driven.
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Not sure if this guy’s name has been bought up - I apologize if it has but his name is : Nate Sestina grad transfer from Bucknell - - 6"9 forward , some pretty solid numbers. - has had like 50 schools interested in him at the present.
15.8 - - -ppg - - - - -8.5 - -rpg - - - - - -38% - – 3pt % - - - -81 % – - ft - - - & 60 % - from 2 pt range - -I would think we might want to check it out - - -taking Kentucky visit soon. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
Apparently KU is interested in https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-ryan-1.html
Gross
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Got a question . - -Is it me? - -have I missed the boat? - -I just don’t remember such a huge stock plie of players transferring like this before in recent years. - -What has caused such a very big amount of players transferring like this in the past few years? - -what has changed to cause so many to transfer? - -Seems like just in the last 3-4 years. - is that right? - -or have I just been blind to this in the last decade?
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875 kids last yr FYI.
Kids have more leverage and choice now. Gone are the days Coaches and administrations can just say your not going anywhere, or we’re going to restrict where you can go. It’s bad PR to do it now.
The Grad Transfer angle has basically made it free agency. College Football is headed down a very steep dangerous path with eligibility appeals on some high profile kids (Justin Fields, Tate Martell). The transfer portal is another very recent tool given to kids looking to transfer as well. If kids don’t like the situation they are in they feel empowered to change it. This is the times we live in now.
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More names today. Just a recap of a day that saw nearly 100 new names in the Portal.
Matt Freeman of Oklahoma. Matt Ryan of Vanderbilt. Keith Stone and Michael Okuru of Florida. Tai Strickland of Wisconsin. Amauri Hardy of UNLV. Cameron Lard of Iowa St. Kira Lewis Jr of Alabama. Jahaad Proctor (19ppg) for High Point.
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BShark said:
Apparently KU is interested in https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-ryan-1.html
Not understand that one. He really took a dive on his shooting numbers at Vandy. Was known as a big time shooter coming into Notre Dame. Saw some Vandy games this year and he was not very good.
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Kira Lewis please and thank you.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Kira Lewis please and thank you.
He’ll have plenty of suitors. KU and Tennessee recruited him to the end last spring. Maybe we get lucky 2nd time around like with Malik. Kira is a jet with the ball similar to Dotson with a little more size and length. Was impressed by him this year
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BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Kira Lewis please and thank you.
He’ll have plenty of suitors. KU and Tennessee recruited him to the end last spring. Maybe we get lucky 2nd time around like with Malik. Kira is a jet with the ball similar to Dotson with a little more size and length. Was impressed by him this year
I watched a couple of Bama games this year. He stands out. I’m actually sort of shocked he wasn’t on draft boards, but I think that’s only because he’s not eligible. Still 17 until next Saturday.
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@jayballer73 Because nobody can commit to anything anymore. No loyalty. Everybody wants to be the star of the team and not a team player.
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Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Kira Lewis please and thank you.
He’ll have plenty of suitors. KU and Tennessee recruited him to the end last spring. Maybe we get lucky 2nd time around like with Malik. Kira is a jet with the ball similar to Dotson with a little more size and length. Was impressed by him this year
I watched a couple of Bama games this year. He stands out. I’m actually sort of shocked he wasn’t on draft boards, but I think that’s only because he’s not eligible. Still 17 until next Saturday.
Same, saw some games and I was surprised how good he was. Beat out veterans, led the team in scoring. I know he was young but I didn’t realize he was Svi young.
I have a feeling wherever he lands he’ll appeal to be immediately eligible. I would if I were him after what has happened in College Football.
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nuleafjhawk said:
@jayballer73 Because nobody can commit to anything anymore. No loyalty. Everybody wants to be the star of the team and not a team player.
Prison Mitch says HELLO
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nuleafjhawk said:
@jayballer73 Because nobody can commit to anything anymore. No loyalty. Everybody wants to be the star of the team and not a team player.
Sure, that’s part of it.
The other part is that coaches constantly leave jobs. The odds of you playing all four years for the coach you committed to is very unlikely.
Another part of it is coaches incorrectly assessing the talent of players. Bill Self has basically kicked several players out of the program. He isn’t the only one.
Another part is that coaches are liars. Recruits are told they’ll be given the world. Anything to get them on campus. Then, they realize that everyone was told that. It wasn’t the truth. And now they have to make a decision.
The last part, of course everyone wants to play. You get 4-5 years to play and then for the majority of guys, it’s over. Why would you not want to spend your time playing? If it looks like you are never going to get the opportunity you were looking for at this school, why wouldn’t you go somewhere else that you would be more valued? You’re going to spend 40+ hours a week doing this. You should try to be somewhere you feel happy and welcomed.
I want to ask two questions. Have you ever changed jobs before? Why weren’t you completely loyal to the first place you ever started working? Better opportunity elsewhere? You hated your boss? Job description turned out to be different than was explained to you? You like to be an integral part of a smaller organization than just a cog at a big one? Wanted to move back closer to family?
This is no different than leaving a job for another that you may be more interested in. The only thing people owe loyalty to is themselves and their family. They don’t owe a coach who may leave at any second loyalty. They don’t owe the school who won’t even remember them any loyalty. Their only responsibility is to do what is best for themselves. Call that selfish all you want, but you only get one life and it’s your responsibility to try to make the most out of it.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Kira Lewis please and thank you.
He’ll have plenty of suitors. KU and Tennessee recruited him to the end last spring. Maybe we get lucky 2nd time around like with Malik. Kira is a jet with the ball similar to Dotson with a little more size and length. Was impressed by him this year
I watched a couple of Bama games this year. He stands out. I’m actually sort of shocked he wasn’t on draft boards, but I think that’s only because he’s not eligible. Still 17 until next Saturday.
Same, saw some games and I was surprised how good he was. Beat out veterans, led the team in scoring. I know he was young but I didn’t realize he was Svi young.
I have a feeling wherever he lands he’ll appeal to be immediately eligible. I would if I were him after what has happened in College Football.
That would be absolutely amazing… I mean, if Tate Martell and Justin Fields can get immediate eligibility, I’d think anyone can at this point.
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@Kcmatt7"This is no different than leaving a job for another that you may be more interested in"
Yes, in my 43 years of employment I have changed jobs. I won’t count my High School jobs or my first …I guess i’d better make some kind of money to pay rent job - after those I spent close to 9 years at one job, we moved to another state and I spent close to 9 years at the next job (was laid off) and have been in my current job for 22 years.
So, I guess my opinion is that I’m not a big job hopper.
What sets that apart from the college basketball playing that we’re talking about is this:
When I started looking for a “real” job, not every single major, high paying company in the free world was sending me letters, knocking on my door, offering to buy cars, houses, hookers, whatever it is that’s on the table these days in order for me to come work for them.
I was the one who had to put in the legwork. I had to make sure my resume was good. I had to look and act decent at interviews. People were not begging me to work for them and pay me whatever i wanted. Even through those circumstances I felt a certain amount of loyalty to my employer for the time that they did invest in me.
I feel that when colleges invest thousands of dollars, plus the time involved to recruit players, the players should feel some sense of loyalty, some sense of obligation to stay there. Of course, there are always circumstances that dictate that a player must go, but it should be, in my opinion an extreme rarity.
I know my values are outdated, old fashioned and not realistic with todays society, but that’s how I feel.
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@Kcmatt7 lol, I stuck around at my job so long my boss retired and I took over the business. I’d be ok with it if they allowed highschoolers to go pro and/or didn’t allow college freshmen to play (not so fond of the second one, but it would show a definite commitment and would force the kid to be in the system for 2 years to figure out if he’s any good before he bales due to being work brittle). I’d also be ok with requiring a 2 year scholarship commitment from the university for every recruit. i.e. OADs cost 2 scholarship years.
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nuleafjhawk said:
@Kcmatt7"This is no different than leaving a job for another that you may be more interested in"
Yes, in my 43 years of employment I have changed jobs. I won’t count my High School jobs or my first …I guess i’d better make some kind of money to pay rent job - after those I spent close to 9 years at one job, we moved to another state and I spent close to 9 years at the next job (was laid off) and have been in my current job for 22 years.
So, I guess my opinion is that I’m not a big job hopper.
What sets that apart from the college basketball playing that we’re talking about is this:
When I started looking for a “real” job, not every single major, high paying company in the free world was sending me letters, knocking on my door, offering to buy cars, houses, hookers, whatever it is that’s on the table these days in order for me to come work for them.
I was the one who had to put in the legwork. I had to make sure my resume was good. I had to look and act decent at interviews. People were not begging me to work for them and pay me whatever i wanted. Even through those circumstances I felt a certain amount of loyalty to my employer for the time that they did invest in me.
I feel that when colleges invest thousands of dollars, plus the time involved to recruit players, the players should feel some sense of loyalty, some sense of obligation to stay there. Of course, there are always circumstances that dictate that a player must go, but it should be, in my opinion an extreme rarity.
I know my values are outdated, old fashioned and not realistic with todays society, but that’s how I feel.
I don’t think people should be big hoppers. I also just don’t think people should judge others harshly for altering their position for what is best for them and makes them happy.
There is nothing wrong with loyalty. It is a very good trait that can take you far. But it can also be a fault. Expecting every 17-18 year old to be happy with a decision they (or their parents) made as they mature into a young adult is foolish, imo.
This is their pay the rent job. It’s also their summer internship. It also has the potential to be a multi-million dollar decision for them. So, in my opinion, it is ok for players to spend these 4 years of their lives in a somewhat selfish manner considering it could change their entire lives.
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dylans said:
@Kcmatt7 lol, I stuck around at my job so long my boss retired and I took over the business. I’d be ok with it if they allowed highschoolers to go pro and/or didn’t allow college freshmen to play (not so fond of the second one, but it would show a definite commitment and would force the kid to be in the system for 2 years to figure out if he’s any good before he bales due to being work brittle). I’d also be ok with requiring a 2 year scholarship commitment from the university for every recruit. i.e. OADs cost 2 scholarship years.
Well congratulations! Loyalty most certainly is a good trait and pays off for many. I’d love to start/own a business someday.
Now to the rest of your point:
I fully 100% agree players should be allowed to go pro and it’s kind of dumb that the NBA ever put that rule in, in the first place.
I fully 100% disagree on the rest of your ideas. I don’t believe that we should be limiting the opportunities of athletes just because we as fans enjoy watching sports more if players are here for 4 years. Limiting the opportunities of students is absolutely against the spirit of any Higher Learning Institution. A scholarship restriction does this, as does forcing a player to sit.
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@Kcmatt7 OADs are in the spirit of a Higher Learning Institution?
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John Petty transferring from Bama. Took a step back this year but really talented kid.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
John Petty transferring from Bama. Took a step back this year but really talented kid.
I was hoping this was coming. Would take.
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Duke, Memphis, and TCU have already reached out to Lewis. I found it out that KU has not been listed as checking in on some of these transfers. I wonder if there is not as many guys leaving as some think…
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@dylans Yes. Colleges, by their very nature, are supposed to offer opportunities. Not limit them. Just because a player leaves without a degree doesn’t mean they didn’t get the opportunity they needed by going to college. It just so happens that after one year, some players end up having taken advantage of the opportunity offered to them.
Less than half of the people who attend college end up graduating. Yet we don’t attempt to limit that number and just accept who we think will graduate instead of those who are qualified and apply. Regardless of their intentions of being there for a period of time. We don’t force all students to sign a 4 year covenant that binds them to the University. They’re free to leave if, let’s say, someone offered them millions of dollars to do so.
So, why should we try to limit the opportunity of an athlete who qualified to go to the school academically?
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@Woodrow Certainly could be the case… Which would be very unfortunate. Maybe Bill even scared himself off of the transfer market knowing he could be stuck with Charlie for another two years lol.
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Woodrow said:
Duke, Memphis, and TCU have already reached out to Lewis. I found it out that KU has not been listed as checking in on some of these transfers. I wonder if there is not as many guys leaving as some think…
I have now seen 17 schools mentioned with Lewis and not KU.
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Woodrow said:
Woodrow said:
Duke, Memphis, and TCU have already reached out to Lewis. I found it out that KU has not been listed as checking in on some of these transfers. I wonder if there is not as many guys leaving as some think…
I have now seen 17 schools mentioned with Lewis and not KU.
Maybe we are just doing it behind the scenes. You have to at least think so. He is an absolute stud and you’d be stupid to not reach out at the very least.
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@Kcmatt7 colleges are supposed to educate. America provides the opportunities. OADs make a farce of Higher Education.
If you can’t commit for 2 years, go get paid now. See how Lithuania treats you. Don’t make a mockery of our already horrid educational system. Let that scholarship go to a student athlete. But really I proposed holding the university responsible thru scholarship guidelines. This would provide more opportunities to student athletes that are being wasted in OADs, but would allow guys who go supernova an out. They don’t have to stay, but the U doesn’t want to recruit a roster of OADs either.
I value things that others don’t, I suppose. I need a solid commitment at my job from my help. I have had too many big talkers puss out on me. Those I can’t count on are dead to me.
While I wish these athletes would show some gumption and follow through with their commitment I also know things change and kids get out right lied to during recruiting.
So on the other hand;
I also think young men should be allowed to change their minds and transfer freely, but buyer beware. Many of these kids are talented, but don’t know what it takes to cash in on that talent.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
John Petty transferring from Bama. Took a step back this year but really talented kid.
Did he take a step back though? Doesn’t look like it on a cursory glance, he just didn’t improve as much as one would hope for but coaching (or lack of) plays a role there.
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Thomas Allen leaving Nebraska. I’ll have to check with my friend about him. He still keeps in contact
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More intriguing names from Yesterday. John Petty (Alabama), DeAundre Ballard (Florida), Thomas Allen (Nebraska), former KU target.
List up to 400
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Thomas Allen would be ok
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Christian Keeling from Charleston Southern is a grad transfer. Was first team all Big South. Averaged 19-7-3 while shooting 47% from the field.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4067301/christian-keeling
