Too Sooner to Give up OU-KU game thread



  • Big Dave powered that up and in



  • @DanR that is complete bs. Shots aren’t falling does not tell the entire story at all. There is more to the game than shooting. And this team has none of it. Plain and simple.



  • Cheap foul call…fricken refs



  • Dave got range



  • @Bwag a rare bank-dunk by Big Dave!



  • When this game was like 7 -6…I was thinking this is great…we’re starting well and we seem to have energy and McCormick is helping out…then down by 11 about 2 minutes later.



  • bmensch1 said:

    When this game was like 7 -6…I was thinking this is great…we’re starting well and we seem to have energy and McCormick is helping out…then down by 11 about 2 minutes later.

    Me too…how quickly it got away



  • Range



  • @cragarhawk Why are you embarrassed? I don’t get it. I’m getting up tomorrow to go to work. No one’s going to laugh at me. They may ask what happened. But I just don’t get when people say they’re embarrassed.



  • It’s so bad that espn is giving ku points on Oklahoma buckets



  • Big Dave - FT Line jumper…maybe we will be a force by time of tournament. #1988



  • Love the Addidas sentencing notices at the bottom of the screen as we watch Silvia sit…



  • Did Fran just say you know a great player when you see one “like Frank Mason as a freshman”? Maybe I heard him wrong



  • 4 minutes left in this tragedy



  • Only down 22…just need about 40 stops in tje last 3 minutes and we got this



  • bmensch1 said:

    Only down 22…just need about 40 stops in tje last 3 minutes and we got this

    #KeepTheFaith



  • Big Dave still hustling



  • So Grimes has a banked in 3 and 3 turnovers.



  • Loving Dave’s energy and hustle



  • Remember when we used to have only one or two awful performances per season?



  • A hero is born Teahan! 🔥 🔥



  • Woodrow said:

    So Grimes has a banked in 3 and 3 turnovers.

    He only has 3 turnovers??? That’s the most surprising thing I’ve heard all night



  • I remember when our talent wasn’t all sitting on the bench injured



  • bmensch1 said:

    Woodrow said:

    So Grimes has a banked in 3 and 3 turnovers.

    He only has 3 turnovers??? That’s the most surprising thing I’ve heard all night

    Thanks for making me laugh. I’m just going by Yahoo Sports box score. It sure as hell feels like more.



  • @wissox because as a fan I don’t like to accept getting beat by a worse team that simply plays harder, focused more on the task at hand. And hell yes. Just plain wanted to win more. And make zero mistake. That is 100% absolutely what has happened tonight. And on several other occasions this season that has absolutely caused the end of the streak. Not bullshit excuses about being 5 for whatever from 3 or this guy’s was out … waaaa waaaa waaaa. The ncaa screwed us. Blah blah blah. Getting hammered by 20 plus all night to a terrible team. That’s right. Terrible… Not even a remotely good basketball team. I have pride in teams that play hard and overachieve I.E. 2012… And thus will be realistic about the opposite type of team. Hence. Embarrassed



  • nwhawkfan said:

    Remember when we used to have only one or two awful performances per season?

    Last year was a struggle for about an 8 game stretch starting with washington…everybody was having career nights.



  • Career high for Dave with 15?



  • bmensch1 said:

    nwhawkfan said:

    Remember when we used to have only one or two awful performances per season?

    Last year was a struggle for about an 8 game stretch starting with washington…everybody was having career nights.

    Yeah, but in those games at least we put in the work.



  • @cragarhawk Well when we’re forced to rely on guys who are not starters or even close to top ten team type players, these are the games we’re going to get. I don’t want to get into a peeing match with you, so you’ve had your say. My last word is I’m proud as heck to be a Jayhawk fan for the last 30+ years. I know you are too. RCJHKU



  • Fran just shaking trying to hold in his excitement.



  • Nice while it lasted.



  • it lasted a long long long long long… time



  • @wissox we’re all entitled to our own view bud. I respect you. But I don’t buy that at all. You think Bill had top ten talent at Tulsa and Oral Roberts? How did he take those teams so far? It wasn’t talent. It was fundamentals, defense, and effort. I don’t care if this team loses. I’m not embarrassed by losing. It speaks to the character of team, the players, and the coaches to lose in that manner. That’s my view



  • Streak is done…now, let’s win the NCAA Championship and put our little boards ongoing argument to rest!



  • bskeet said:

    Fran just shaking trying to hold in his excitement.

    He peed his leg. Was it left or right?



  • @Bwag both



  • 8 assists on 27 made FG. This team is easy to defend when they don’t share the ball like tonight. It’s been a problem all season for KU. They have very seldom assisted on 50% or more of their made FG’s this year.

    When that happens, it makes a team extremely easy to defend because there is no ball movement.



  • Crimsonorblue22 said:

    @Bwag both

    Short…right down the middle!



  • @Bwag yes



  • @Texas-Hawk-10

    yes. They especially seem to forget how to pass on the road.



  • Very very proud of the streak. It was a phenomenal run. It’s sad to see it end by losing to subpar teams rather than someone who is just plain better. But even more sad to see that it will probably actually end a year shy for ncaa violations.



  • Gotta get Dotson back on track and see what will happen in the tourney(s). With these freshmen, I’m just going to enjoy what’s left of the season. Big Dave is coming along. Keep in mind, we would probably have at least 5 more losses if this was our team from day one (No Doke, No Vick)



  • @cragarhawk we are a subpar team, dude. Not a subpar PROGRAM, but this particular team has 4 freshman starters.



  • Welp, I stand by them when they win and I’ll stand by them when they lose.

    They need to find their mojo soon if they want to find some silver linings in this season. I’ll keep watching and hoping there’s a rabbit up Self’s sleeve.



  • Jay Williams gave KU a standing ovation for the streak. First time I can remember KU getting a non-condescending standing O after an ass whoopin’



  • I think the most frustrating thing is this team just never really got better as the tear went on. Clearly Dave is becoming more comfortable and has improved, but I’d make a argument that Grimes, Dotson, and Ochai have regressed as the season ( short season with Ochai) has gone on. That is just extremely out of character for a Self coached team.

    I just don’t remember a team as fragile under Self. Obviously there is a lot going on around the program right now and I’m sure that’s part of it, but hoping up flat tonight with all that was on the line was sad to see.



  • cragarhawk said:

    Very very proud of the streak. It was a phenomenal run. It’s sad to see it end by losing to subpar teams rather than someone who is just plain better. But even more sad to see that it will probably actually end a year shy for ncaa violations.

    I see what you mean, but if we are losing to subpar teams, then it means we built the streak by beating subpar teams. True, it’s not the ACC or B10, but dissing the other teams unintentionally degrades the accomplishment.

    If I’m not mistaken, of all the teams in the B12, OU is the only other that has reached the Final Four… They have a great coach. Yeah, their record isn’t great, but their SOS is 10th.

    We are not an experienced team this year. We’re going to finish 3rd or so… It is what it is.



  • @DanR we are subpar to the normfor this program yes. But we are not subpar to several of the teams we’ve lost to. Not even from a talent stand point. Look it up…

    We lack many qualities that good teams have, talent not withstanding, but have failed to harness the controllable qualities of what makes a good TEAM.

    4 freshman? Really? Sorry but that’s an awful excuse. Look around the country sir… Clear back to the fab five… And before anyone says “but they were paid” people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones



  • @bskeet no that isn’t what it means. The streak was definitely accomplished by scratching and clawing for years against some stiff competition. And vs teams with players of the year and so on. It is not to diminish what’s been done. It’s how that actually was done. Lots and lots of effort. Which you didn’t see largely this season. That’s the point.

    I mean seriously? This OU team is actually better than KU this season? And by 20 points? West Virginia is better than KU this season? Uh… No sir



  • Our 4 frosh are pretty comparable to the fab 5🤔


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