Washburn
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Lord this is ugly
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Hope Self has fun with this game tape
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Woodrow said:
When Self coached team USA didn’t Grimes shoot the ball really well?
Half the games he was good, the other half were really bad.
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Charlie is going to start for a bit. Dotson is not ready for the speed of the game.
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approxinfinity said:
Lord this is ugly
Truly awful!
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I recall the two exhibition games when Wiggins and Selden were freshmen, we looked really horrid, then played Duke in the champions classic and it was like an entirely different team.
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Guys leaving early sucks. Grimes/Dotson could develop into rush/charmers but won’t get chance. Remember how bad Mario struggled early his freshman year?
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honestly if a couple more threes had dropped, we don’t look quite as bad
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This Washburn team really has my son worried
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@DanR I’m more concerned with the D and lack of confidence in taking shots. Add in just simply not being ready to shoot. Guys making the easy pass to the wide open guy and they pass up a shot because they weren’t ready to catch and shoot.
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That is why Senior Vick matters
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@Kcmatt7 1/3 of the last wide open threes. They were ready to shoot
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KJ is kind of butt
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10 turnovers… yuk
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I’d love to know if the week before the last exhibition game is a REALLY REALLY tough practice week for the guys. I’d bet Self kills them and sees who responds but it leads to dead legs for this game. Then he lets up for the big game next week and concentrates more on mental stuff.
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@BigBad good point. They do all look pretty dead
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@Kcmatt7 yeah… Sample size grows KJ remains butt…
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Vick loves kicks!
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Kcmatt7 said:
KJ is kind of butt
He has not done anything for me yet.
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BigBad said:
Guys leaving early sucks. Grimes/Dotson could develop into rush/charmers but won’t get chance. Remember how bad Mario struggled early his freshman year?
Dotson should be around for awhile.
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approxinfinity said:
This Washburn team really has my son worried
How old is your kiddo?
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Self is disappointed
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Kcmatt7 said:
@DanR I’m more concerned with the D and lack of confidence in taking shots. Add in just simply not being ready to shoot. Guys making the easy pass to the wide open guy and they pass up a shot because they weren’t ready to catch and shoot.
Well said. I noticed that a lot as well. Need more confidence!
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We look like crap so far.
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I know it’s only a game and a half of exhibitions but I don’t see a lottery pick in Grimes right now.
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Woodrow said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KJ is kind of butt
He has not done anything for me yet.
More than anything, he looks either lost or not giving 100%. Neither is a good thing.
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Kcmatt7 said:
KJ is kind of butt
My eyes told me this when watching him at Memphis, but then we heard so many good things from around the program. Hopefully he gets it going.
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Woodrow said:
I know it’s only a game and a half of exhibitions but I don’t see a lottery pick in Grimes right now.
Last game I definitely saw a lot that looked like an NBA PG. He has the size and the vision.
I don’t know that they’ll be looking at much else honestly.
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DanR said:
10 turnovers… yuk
Going to be a problem all year I think.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Woodrow said:
I know it’s only a game and a half of exhibitions but I don’t see a lottery pick in Grimes right now.
Last game I definitely saw a lot that looked like an NBA PG. He has the size and the vision.
I don’t know that they’ll be looking at much else honestly.
Sad but true.
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I think Self may have used the Lawson’s to get to Dedric. I am starting to suspect he cuts ties with them this offseason depending on how recruiting all shakes out…
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Kcmatt7 said:
I think Self may have used the Lawson’s to get to Dedric. I am starting to suspect he cuts ties with them this offseason depending on how recruiting all shakes out…
Someone on the phog called him CJ Henry 2.0. I don’t think we are there yet…
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Not winning Tuesday with this effort. Very concerned
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BeddieKU23 said:
Not winning Tuesday with this effort. Very concerned
Not winning Tuesday period. Michigan State is a cohesive team with 3 excellent college players and some role players. MSU by 15+ imo.
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Perimeter scoring is going to be a major issue all yr if Grimes plays like that. Good thing theres lots of games for him to get it together
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Has anyone found any video of the Mich St exhibitions? I’d love to watch a little tape on them.
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We have so many bigs, but the best line-ups are small ball…
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BShark said:
We have so many bigs, but the best line-ups are small ball…
Tough transition from small to traditional
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@BShark He won’t be mistaken for Dedric. This team is going to take time. We could have as many losses this year as we had last year. We have alot of guys not sure what to do next. There’s going to be some learning curves, I’m afraid.
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Well guys I mean I know - - I know it’s just two exhibition games. I think however and feel we just might struggle a little bit until we really find ourselves this Season.
The game just might be a little interesting Tuesday night with Michigan State could be pretty close , again just like we are struggling now - -we have got to quirt making -unforce turnovers. - Sure a lot different from last year in our 3 pt shooting - -but we all knew we weren’t going to be as good in that dept.
Grimes has had a slow beginning in exhibition play , but not really concerned - -just got to get that playing time- -it will come , as far as tonight goes - - Vick looking a little better – HEY Udoka – the 2 free throws he has shot looked really fluid very nice just got to keep after it…
The biggest take I have seen we need to work on though is --Ball security , KJ has struggled. – I like the garbage boy the one giving 100% - in little things – Mitch just brings his lunchbox. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Have we ever had a player that compares to Dedric? I think he’s going to be a scoring machine, but he has to be the most un-athletic big man in KU history.
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KUSTEVE said:
@BShark He won’t be mistaken for Dedric. This team is going to take time. We could have as many losses this year as we had last year. We have alot of guys not sure what to do next. There’s going to be some learning curves, I’m afraid.
Agree. This team COULD be very good but it’s going to take time and some lumps before they potentially get there.
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@DanR he was rated the least athletic at the combine 2 years ago.
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DanR said:
Have we ever had a player that compares to Dedric? I think he’s going to be a scoring machine, but he has to be the most un-athletic big man in KU history.
Hmm, Moody wasn’t very athletic. Not a similar player to Dedric at all though. I think Georges Niang is a good comp.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Not winning Tuesday with this effort. Very concerned
Not winning Tuesday period. Michigan State is a cohesive team with 3 excellent college players and some role players. MSU by 15+ imo.
I agree going to be interesting for awhile BUT come on Man don’t start that crap already - -Michigan St by 15 plus? – come on , that’s just a little extreme Mr Sunshine lmao. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@DanR Old man ball. His game is a testament to those of us that watched the NBA in the 80s and 90s.
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@jayballer73 I think we’ll show better against Sparty. So far, this looks more like 2013 than 2017.
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The one thing I worry about with this team is the best defensive team might be the worst offensive one. Self may have to just deal with some bad defense to stay in games with a hot opponent. This will really test the “Self has embraced modern ball” theorists.
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I dont think Agbaji is redshirting.
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I was ABOUT to say good d by moore.
