2018-2019 Grad & Sitout Transfer Thread
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KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 Why do they call it USC Upstate? Because they didn’t want to call it North South Carolina.
That would have been a bit confusing. However I’m still confused why its called Upstate
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Posting where my talents are better used!
Nevada adds Old Dominion transfer Trey Porter as a grad transfer. Huge need for them and if their 3 to-be seniors return this is a Top 10 squad next season.
Ibi Watson of Michigan goes to Dayton. Sit 1 to play 2
DeSean Murray of Auburn goes to Western Kentucky as a grad transfer. Big pickup for them
Ricky Torres a Juco All-American signs with Wichita St to become the Shockers 18 thousandth roster movement. Probably a good chance he starts
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WKU could be sneaky good next year. Potential tournament team if they can put it all together.
WSU will have a completely new rotation next season. Will be interesting how their staff handles that much turnover.
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@BeddieKU23 I think of the regular old USC here in Columbia as being in a perpetual sort of Downstate.
More seriously, I think it is an adjunct of the USC system but they don’t use city names here as they do for, say, University of California at (wherever).
Upstate is just a reference they use here for the northern part of the state. Like New York Uptown.
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justanotherfan said:
WKU could be sneaky good next year. Potential tournament team if they can put it all together.
WSU will have a completely new rotation next season. Will be interesting how their staff handles that much turnover.
I wouldn’t be surprised if both of those statements are true. WKU did well in the NIT. I think some of its nucleus returns outside of Coleby.
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One time KU target Ike Obiagu leaving FSU. Terrific rim protector.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
One time KU target Ike Obiagu leaving FSU. Terrific rim protector.
I hope we pursue. FSU was mighty high on him going forward
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Arizona lands PG grad transfer Justin Coleman. Sorry Alex Barcello your not good enough for Stumpy dumpy
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BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
One time KU target Ike Obiagu leaving FSU. Terrific rim protector.
I hope we pursue. FSU was mighty high on him going forward
Mehhhhh. He should go to Maryland or something.
Also do you know what the hell is going on down there? EE run and players are leaving? CJ Walker was going to be the starting PG again and left…
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/990926981767278592
Cremo will visit KU per Corky.
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BShark said:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/990926981767278592
Cremo will visit KU per Corky.
wowza
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/990926981767278592
Cremo will visit KU per Corky.
wowza
It’s over with Langford turn out the lights.
That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/990926981767278592
Cremo will visit KU per Corky.
wowza
It’s over with Langford turn out the lights.
That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.
He might be the best option given what’s out there currently. Best option in terms of shooting, experienced guard. Definitely has Svi-like shooting ability from deep. Not a great athlete, decent defender in the American. If he wants to start I don’t see that role at KU, he would be a quality rotation type
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/990926981767278592
Cremo will visit KU per Corky.
wowza
It’s over with Langford turn out the lights.
That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.
He might be the best option given what’s out there currently. Best option in terms of shooting, experienced guard. Definitely has Svi-like shooting ability from deep. Not a great athlete, decent defender in the American. If he wants to start I don’t see that role at KU, he would be a quality rotation type
I’d listen to arguments that Cremo is better for KU next year than Langford would have been. Not saying I’d agree, but I’d listen.
Obviously Romeo is the better long term player and an NBA level talent but we are talking about a 22 y/o skilled finished product vs an 18 y/o freak athlete.
You can also ask Cremo to handle the ball some, whereas you don’t get that with Romeo.
The bigger impact Romeo could have had was on defense but he would have needed to buy in and I’m not sure I get that vibe from him. More Wiggins than Jackson imo. Plus not to belabor the point but he is 18, guards rarely come in and dominate defensively as FR.
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How in the world did Louisville not win more with Donovan Mitchell on the roster? Hookers must be exhausting.
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dylans said:
How in the world did Louisville not win more with Donovan Mitchell on the roster? Hookers must be exhausting.
Where was the crap piled on Pitino for only playing him 19 mpg as a FR?
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dylans said:
How in the world did Louisville not win more with Donovan Mitchell on the roster? Hookers must be exhausting.
To Louisville’s defense Mitchell never put it all together in College but he had plenty of moments where he was good. In the right fit, with a need for a player to emerge he took that chance and ran with it.
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Donovan Mitchell was only ranked #43 by ESPN and he really transformed his game between his freshman and sophomore years and now he is taken it to the next level in the NBA and he is doing great in the playoffs. He is the stereotype of a player that benefited greatly from playing a second year in college; he would have been undrafted after his freshman year and went lottery after the extra year.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/990926981767278592
Cremo will visit KU per Corky.
wowza
It’s over with Langford turn out the lights.
That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.
He might be the best option given what’s out there currently. Best option in terms of shooting, experienced guard. Definitely has Svi-like shooting ability from deep. Not a great athlete, decent defender in the American. If he wants to start I don’t see that role at KU, he would be a quality rotation type
I’d listen to arguments that Cremo is better for KU next year than Langford would have been. Not saying I’d agree, but I’d listen.
Obviously Romeo is the better long term player and an NBA level talent but we are talking about a 22 y/o skilled finished product vs an 18 y/o freak athlete.
You can also ask Cremo to handle the ball some, whereas you don’t get that with Romeo.
The bigger impact Romeo could have had was on defense but he would have needed to buy in and I’m not sure I get that vibe from him. More Wiggins than Jackson imo. Plus not to belabor the point but he is 18, guards rarely come in and dominate defensively as FR.
Cremo’s greatest skill is our biggest need.
It’s a good thing he’s not a small guard, he’s more 6’5ish the last time I saw him in February. His value to the team could absolutely compare to Tarik Black a few years back. No ego, lives in the gym. Some kids work hard, this is the type that is first in and last out. He lives to play basketball. That in itself is a valuable commodity to have on your team pushing young kids to work hard. I think he’s someone that can average 6-7 points a game here while having a bigger impact as a teammate.
I know I was initially down on him if KU pursued but I get it from a Coaching perspective. There might not be a better kid available from a skill and character level
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40% of Cremo’s games this year he made 3 or more three’s.
He was the best shooter in the America East conference by a wide margin.
If Self offers I think he takes it
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@BeddieKU23 If he can play passable defense and be a good shooter off the bench I’d take that. Something like 20-25 minutes a game seems feasible.
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Cremo works as a designated shooter in a lot of different lineups. He could be a nice addition if KU misses on Langford. 18-20 minutes a game off the bench shooting 3-5 threes per game, I could see him being a really nice asset. I don’t think he could start because he probably won’t be versatile enough, but he could be a bench guy that scores a few points a game, with the potential to hit 6 or 7 threes on any given night.
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Bingo! That’s what he is, at times a lights out shooter. Really good from the FT line as well so he has value at end of game situations. Often played out of position for Albany because Nichols (who transferred to FSU) this spring as well wasn’t a true PG. Cremo is a true SG that has some vision and shot making ability. A specific role at KU could make all the difference
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I see Cremo as a 2/3 at KU. He can play the 2 and slide Grimes or Garrett to the 3. He played some point at Albany but I’d rather have him off the ball. He does have a good enough handle to bring the ball up on occasion. I think he competes for a starting gig immediately if he picks us.
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Baylor has landed high scoring transfer MaCio Teague.
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Can Cremo create his own shot? Designated shooters who need to be open spot haven’t worked well for KU, have they?
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He can create his own shot. He’d instantly become the best shooter on the team
Duke looked at him. He’s visiting Villanova this week as well. Gonzaga, Creighton, Texas also on his list. He’s got plenty of attention from big programs
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BeddieKU23 said:
He can create his own shot. He’d instantly become the best shooter on the team
Duke looked at him. He’s visiting Villanova this week as well. Gonzaga, Creighton, Texas also on his list. He’s got plenty of attention from big programs
HE VISITING VILLANOVA WEDNESDAY
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justanotherfan said:
Cremo works as a designated shooter in a lot of different lineups. He could be a nice addition if KU misses on Langford. 18-20 minutes a game off the bench shooting 3-5 threes per game, I could see him being a really nice asset. I don’t think he could start because he probably won’t be versatile enough, but he could be a bench guy that scores a few points a game, with the potential to hit 6 or 7 threes on any given night.
I don’t think he starts either. Starting line-up should be Dotson, Grimes, Garrett. I could maybe see Moore early in the season but I hope not.
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If Doke is back, Cremo may need to start in a Doke-Dedric-Grimes-Dotson lineup to space the floor a bit more. I’m still waiting to see how Garrett’s shot progresses before I decide where he can fit in different lineups.
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If Moore is starting it means he is really playing well enough to beat one of the big names…which is a good thing.
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I actually heard that Moore was really good in practice last year and surprised the staff quite a bit. At some points he was “unguardable”.
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@Woodrow - some of KU’s opponents last year were “unguardable”.
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@Gorilla72 True story. I was not really expecting much from Moore next year so when I was told this I was quite encouraged.
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justanotherfan said:
If Doke is back, Cremo may need to start in a Doke-Dedric-Grimes-Dotson lineup to space the floor a bit more. I’m still waiting to see how Garrett’s shot progresses before I decide where he can fit in different lineups.
That would be a pretty good starting line-up tbh. Growing pains for Dotson and Grimes but otherwise very good.
I think Doke is gone and we see both Lawsons starting in the post.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
If Moore is starting it means he is really playing well enough to beat one of the big names…which is a good thing.
I see it just as easily being possible in the other direction. Grimes clashes with Self early (for w/e reason, probably lack of defensive effort) and Self teaches him a “lesson” like Oubre. It would be stupid, but we’ve seen it before.
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Woodrow said:
I actually heard that Moore was really good in practice last year and surprised the staff quite a bit. At some points he was “unguardable”.
This would be the first positive thing I’ve heard about Moore emanating from the program. Hope it’s true.
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That would be a bad thing if Grimes isn’t playing. Grimes is one of the five most talented players Self has ever recruited to KU. Only Embiid, Wiggins and maybe Josh Jackson can get ahead of him. If Langford comes to KU, Grimes is still fourth or fifth. Him not playing would be a big deal and a potential disaster.
Grimes should play (and play a lot) from Day One. Grimes has legitimate superstar potential at the pro level, nevermind college (as does Langford). Self hasn’t had that at his disposal before.
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justanotherfan said:
That would be a bad thing if Grimes isn’t playing. Grimes is one of the five most talented players Self has ever recruited to KU. Only Embiid, Wiggins and maybe Josh Jackson can get ahead of him. If Langford comes to KU, Grimes is still fourth or fifth. Him not playing would be a big deal and a potential disaster.
Grimes should play (and play a lot) from Day One. Grimes has legitimate superstar potential at the pro level, nevermind college (as does Langford). Self hasn’t had that at his disposal before.
I agree with you but I will put nothing past Self.
Some people do disagree about Grimes, seen some say a worse Selden.
Brandon Roy is a decent comp for him, imo.
What I like the most about Grimes is that he is a crafty player. Has some old man/junk to his game already. Dedric is like that too.
Sounds like Romeo sent in his NLI to Indiana on Saturday so it’s safe to write him off now.
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Louisville adds grad transfer PG Christen Cunningham to its roster
West Virginia adds Juco transfer Jermaine Haley a 6’7 guard.
Tennessee adds grad transfer PG Kwan Fore to its roster
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Wake Forest adds transfer point guard Tory Johnson. Immediately eligible.
They also added Buffalo grad transfer Ikeena Smart 6’10 post. Started 25 games and was apart of the team that upset Arizona in the first round
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Sounds like Jay Wright wasn’t at Nova campus much if at all yesterday when Cremo visisted. Could be an interesting dynamic there
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Big loss for West Virginia. Teddy Allen will transfer
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Some hawks are following Cremo now on social media. Could be a positive sign?
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Virginia lands Braxton Key. Sit one to play 2.
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BShark said:
Good news?
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I think so.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Good news?
Let’s see Braxton Key? - -where was he from again? - - -and does this effect Cremo in anyway - - haven’t heard how his visit to KU went this weekend?
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@jayballer73 Key went to UVA.
