Langford
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We will be just fine without him. Better with him. But fine without. Definitely one less ego or helicopter parent around. If Doke comes back and we lose out on Romeo, I wouldn’t be shocked to see KJ start at the 3.
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They are announcing at his HS and its open to the Public. This one is over reading the tea leaves
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BeddieKU23 said:
They are announcing at his HS and its open to the Public. This one is over reading the tea leaves
This was always the plan though. I don’t think it’s KU because well yeah but this bit actually doesn’t change anything imo.
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@BeddieKU23 – Are you saying the tea leaves say IU then?
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HighEliteMajor said:
@BeddieKU23 – Are you saying the tea leaves say IU then?
Yes.
As tight-lipped as they have been with this recruitment I can’t imagine he stands up in front of his peers and desperate IU fans and goes somewhere else. That would be savage. Nobody knows for sure but it certainly seems to be trending their way. Good for them maybe they finish 500 in the Big-10 now
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If that ends up being his choice, I will be a little butthurt just because he would have unnecessarily drug out his recruitment. I wonder what our backup plan for the 13th scholarship is. I really don’t want to take a transfer unless it is Dedric or Newman level.
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Why would he wait so long to announce if it was IU? Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
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I agree.
If we lose this one I think its worse that Archie came to IU and then started recruiting the kid. Self was recruiting him a lot longer then both IU and Vandy’s current staffs.
I think distance is a factor in this. With his dad (who’s heavily involved to say the least) they seem to be all about keeping him close. There are some other details I think are making the difference as well but who cares if he’s not coming here to bother listing them.
We’ll survive without him if that’s what happens but I do think he would have given us that x factor player on the court.
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KUSTEVE said:
Why would he wait so long to announce if it was IU? Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
It doesn’t make sense. This is one of those recruitment’s that makes you shake your head at the whole process.
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@KUSTEVE Well he was the most talked about player at all of the All-Star games because he wasn’t committed anywhere. So maybe his dad wanted them to ride the hype train.
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Also, a lot of pressure on an Indiana kid to go to IU. IU has had several years where they have missed on their top in-state prospects. That was one of Miller’s major goals when he was hired, so I am not surprised that IU has put on the full court press. The last time Indiana signed the Indiana Mr. Basketball was 2011 (Cody Zeller). That’s a long time for a program like Indiana to miss out on top in-state prospects.
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Kcmatt7 said:
If that ends up being his choice, I will be a little butthurt just because he would have unnecessarily drug out his recruitment. I wonder what our backup plan for the 13th scholarship is. I really don’t want to take a transfer unless it is Dedric or Newman level.
Grad transfer guard imo.
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@BShark Yea I would think this team could use a sharpshooter.
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Langford has to choose between joining a team where he would be the final piece towards a national championship or stay in Indiana and speed up the program’s rise to relevance which already took a big step by hiring Archie Miller, perhaps the best of the younger generation of coaches and one that will bring Indiana back to the top 20 in the next 3-5 years but an extremely long shot to being a title contender in the one year he will be there.
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I still keep thinking how much of a d__k he would have to be to have all these IU fans come and still pick Kansas lol. That would be absolutely savage.
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Didn’t Alexander do something like that putting on the wrong hat and then switching it to the KU hat?
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@JayHawkFanToo He did. And it was wrong. And the video’s are absolutely hysterical lol.
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Bragg announced and said Kentuck…I mean I’m going to Kansas. That was bad too
Now he’s at his 15th school
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Indiana will be lucky to be 500 next season in the Big-10. Miller is a solid coach but he still doesn’t have a roster built to compete. Langford will definitely fill a big weakness on the team though if he goes that route
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Self seems to be really high on Agbaji… Can see him being someone who gets himself on the court quicker then his ranking would suggest. Fits the need we have. Athlete, shooter. Good attitude
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@Kcmatt7 my exact words to a friend of mine. - kind of sucks to lose out on him – - -but like you said , we will be fine, we were fine before and we will be fine after. Just got to believe that this FBI thing is messing with this whole recruitment. - - Oh well. - -Now I’m not just saying this might sound like sour grapes BUT I don’t think Romeo is going to help Indiana as much as their fans think he will- - gonna be a lot to carry - they have fallen off. - -I’ve just got a feeling that something has leaked and this is why we are seeing the movement to Indiana. - -I think he would have been better off being surrounded by other really good players but not gonna hate on the kid. - -Too I also agree about KJ - that is still going to make for a pretty formidable front line. - -Dedric at the 4 and then hopefully Doke at the 5 - and then KJ at the 3 - -& then McCormack quality minutes
I’m also thinking though with the unknown about Silvo’s status - whether he is going to lose his amateur status - - or if he faces some suspension time - -I think this might effect the possibility of Mitch red shirtin this up coming season. - What ya think? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@HighEliteMajor The Tea Leaves and just about anything else too
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@BeddieKU23 Exactly. - -If they think Romeo is going to carry them to the promised land then they are further in left field then what I thought. - - Not saying Romeo isn’t an outstanding player and not hating but he really doesn’t have much supporting him - a supporting cast. - -maybe to a little lesser degree of Trae Young - -act 2. - Hell they might even challenge for the Big 10 but if they are think oh bot National title? - - - umm ya – OK lol
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His on-the-court contribution is just one aspect, the gravitas he brings to the program vis-à-vis future recruits might be an even bigger contribution.
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Kcmatt7 said:
If that ends up being his choice, I will be a little butthurt just because he would have unnecessarily drug out his recruitment. I wonder what our backup plan for the 13th scholarship is. I really don’t want to take a transfer unless it is Dedric or Newman level.
Somebody off the phog had mentioned this. They said well if Romeo doesn’t come maybe we can land this guy - as people have said you know Coach is going to scour for that shooter.
So this name was brought up: - - His name was Jordan Brangers an NCJAA 1st team All American this past season from South Plains College, - - he made 151- - - -3’s this season he shot 46% on the season from the 3 - said like the 2nd coming of Terry Brown - -set a record and made 10 3’s in one contest - -I thought we ya - -hell ya. - -Then a couple of posters later said - -NOPE he had signed with an agent and skipping College - - DAMM lol
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KUSTEVE said:
Why would he wait so long to announce if it was IU? Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
I seriously think we were RIGHT there buddy - -he was right there for the taking. - It’s just my feel that this whole fricken FBI probe was just enough to push him over the other way - -you put that with the pressure he is getting from local - and also have heard his daddy really wants him to go to Indiana
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Well, if does choose IU after waiting this long, three possible reasons (or in combo)-
- He’s just a drama queen and loves the attention.
- He just didn’t need to commit. He could wait and make sure he had all possible info.
- The new gift from the silly “investigation” was a factor.
@JayHawkFanToo Did you just say “gravitas” and “vis-à-vis” in the same sentence? You win vocab day.
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Juwan Morgan returning to them paired with Langford would be a nice 1-2 combo. Their big was hurt most of the year too. Solid 3 possible. Its everything else around them that’s freshman and soph’s unproven that’s the issue. I have no idea who’s their PG either.
IU fans are nuts, like really nuts and passionate. Langford probably benefits them more from a recruiting perspective more for the future. The in-state talent will start to respect Miller
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@HighEliteMajor Agree. – Sounds to me like Daddy is more of the Drama Queen. - loves the attention his son is getting/hype. - -Who knows could be Romeo actually did want to commit earlier and daddy said no - because of the attention - -I wouldn’t put anything past these days
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I think his dad said recently he wanted him at UNC. He also bashed Calipari and said his son would benefit from Self’s hard coaching. He’s certainly getting a lot of sound bites lately. Enjoying the 15 minutes of fame.
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Seemed like the better suited words…
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@BeddieKU23 We’ve got Cunliffe as well. The four guys getting the most minutes will be Dotson, Grimes, Moore, and Garrett. Then Agbagi, and Cunliffe. Not sure I see KJ as a 3, but ok…I’ll grant that as a possibility, too. That is a really good stable of guards… the less talented guys have the most experience, so it works out quite well for us to bring along the rookies at a pace where they won’t feel as overwhelmed by the college game. Another great factor we have going for us is that most guards pick up the KU system much faster than our bigs. It wouldn’t surprise me if Dotson and Grimes end up being the 2nd and 3rd leading scorers by the end of the year. So, Langford or no Langford, I think this team will be really, really good at some point next year. UNC won a national title two years ago ( beating the 4 out Villanova team ) by stacking the box with simply a huge front line that teams simply had no answer for- a front line that dominated both ends of the court. And our front line will be just as stout, if not stouter. Right now, our team, with no one else being signed, is …LOADED.
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Cunliffe that was in witness protection in chain shoes most of the season? I get the feeling Agbaji passed him on the depth chart just signing his papers to come here.
I think KJ’s primary position is predicated on what Doke does. Can’t see him being his brother’s back up at the 4, there’s definitely more minutes for him on the wing currently. If Doke doesn’t return I can see the Lawson’s being the next Morris combo…
I agree, I see Grimes & Dotson being our 2nd & 3rd leading scorers.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Bragg announced and said Kentuck…I mean I’m going to Kansas. That was bad too
Now he’s at his 15th school
I think Bragg legit wanted UK and didn’t have a commitable offer. Jmo though.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Self seems to be really high on Ogbaji… Can see him being someone who gets himself on the court quicker then his ranking would suggest. Fits the need we have. Athlete, shooter. Good attitude
His ranking is going to go up anyway tbh.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Cunliffe that was in witness protection in chain shoes most of the season? I get the feeling Ogbaji passed him on the depth chart just signing his papers to come here.
I think KJ’s primary position is predicated on what Doke does. Can’t see him being his brother’s back up at the 4, there’s definitely more minutes for him on the wing currently. If Doke doesn’t return I can see the Lawson’s being the next Morris combo…
I agree, I see Grimes & Dotson being our 2nd & 3rd leading scorers.
It’s Agbaji btw.
Agree on Cunliffe. KJ is a guy that should find minutes, regardless of if its at the 3 or 4.
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“Coach (Norm) Roberts went to watch Ochai play a couple times and was really impressed. I had a chance to go see him in late January and thought he was terrific,” Kansas coach Bill Self said. "I love his demeanor. He has a maturity about himself. He has a terrific frame and is an explosive athlete who can shoot.
“When we offered Ochai a scholarship, he jumped on it and that also excited us because you want to coach guys who are excited to be in your program,” Self said. “I see him as a Travis Releford type. A guy that comes in and has the body to be a major college player. Ochai could be a high major defender early in his career and his skillset is such that I think he could be an immediate impact player for us. We’re fortunate to get a player locally of this talent who possesses all the intangibles you want in a student-athlete.”
“Defensively, he’s going to be able to guard multiple positions with his size and his strength,” said The Shiver’s Matt Scott, who saw Agbaji play for both Mo-Kan and for Oak Park this season. “He’s 6-foot-5ish and has a good, college-ready body. I think he’s ultimately going to be a really good college defender. His three-point shooting is much, much improved over the last year, and he’s very good about rebounding outside of his area, rebounding well for his position.
“Because of his size, he’s had to play down low at times, so he can score from all three levels: inside, medium range and outside,” Scott said. “His handle has gotten a little better, but his athleticism is really what has exploded over the last year or so.”
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Your right, I’m butchering his name already. Not sure where I got the O from
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Self seems to be really high on Ogbaji… Can see him being someone who gets himself on the court quicker then his ranking would suggest. Fits the need we have. Athlete, shooter. Good attitude
His ranking is going to go up anyway tbh.
Hope so, his ranking is dragging our class ranking down. (Kidding of course)
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Probably did, too bad he didn’t go there
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@HighEliteMajor His dad ran the recruitment. I wouldn’t necessarily judge all of the “dram queen” stuff on Romeo quite yet. By all other accounts, Romeo is a good kid. His dad is a character though…
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There are rumors about a kid that is currently committed elsewhere that would decommit and change to KU if Romeo doesn’t pick KU. No one is willing to say the name of the kid right now, for obvious reasons.
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Well, let’s narrow it down. Odds are it is a top 100 kid. And it has to be someone who hasn’t signed yet.
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OOH. OOH. I would bet on Bryann Penn-Johnson. I am 100% sure we offered him and he is only currently committed and has not officially signed. At least it doesn’t look like it. There is guess #1.
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Matt didn’t even drop a hint if it was a guard or a post…
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Kcmatt7 said:
Matt didn’t even drop a hint if it was a guard or a post…
He isn’t the only person this is coming from. Pretty sure it’s a guard/wing.
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Kcmatt7 said:
OOH. OOH. I would bet on Bryann Penn-Johnson. I am 100% sure we offered him and he is only currently committed and has not officially signed. At least it doesn’t look like it. There is guess #1.
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@BShark I am looking down the list, and anyone who is still committed sure seems like it would be a coup to swipe from.
Here is the list:
- Quinerley - Nova
- Elijiah Weaver - USC
- Khavon Moore - TTU
- Jarius Hamilton - Boston College
- Matthew Mayer - Baylor
- Jaelin Llewellyn - Princeton
- Tyger Campbell - UCLA
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
OOH. OOH. I would bet on Bryann Penn-Johnson. I am 100% sure we offered him and he is only currently committed and has not officially signed. At least it doesn’t look like it. There is guess #1.
Strike 1.
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ESPN needs to update their page. Horrible. Let me try again from 247.
