Quentin Grimes Is A Jayhawk (MONSTER CLASS ALERT)
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@BShark Why do you think Cunliffe is a non-factor? Just because he appears to be pretty weak right now? I do get that. But he’s a body that will be in Self’s system for nearly two years come Oct/2018. How about he’s a “consideration.” That might be better until proven otherwise.
On Newman, don’t be so sure he’s gone. We know odd things have happened. Players we think are leaving, don’t. What if Newman isn’t showing up on GM’s draft sheets as highly as desired? I agree, it is very likely he’s gone. But I’d would say that is over 70%. There’s still a reasonable window there.
Just playing a little “what if” here.
We’re going to get Grimes, I think. But stranger things have happened. No doubt there.
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@jayballer54 Aaron Rodgers says r-e-l-a-x.
@HighEliteMajor Just what I’ve seen mentioned from people that would know re: Cunliffe. I don’t see him contributing much this year or next. His best case next year is 5th in the guard rotation (which is pretty great for KU).
I think Newman would go play in a foreign league over another year of college. $$$.
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@BShark I WOULD make a response with Aaron BUT then I’d have people on me because I’m talking Aaron -I know Aaron’s famous relax statement lmao - - see but I can’t really say that cause then I have people saying I’m a homer GB fan - -NA that can’t be , we all need to try and find something we can ALL agree on - - - - -hmmm let’s see ummm well I’m a KU fan - -hope I’m not a homer for that. - But seriously I want Quentin just like the next Joe - sorry if I spoke up about being nervous - not getting a good feeling – let’s all just sit back and hope for the best - I just am not getting that good a feeling - -you said yourself your feeling nervous, - -But guess we need to pull together and hope for the best.
Like has been said though if he does choose to go to Texas? - -Guess what? - we’ll be fine - - Still really good class - then if Romeo ends up here - we be really good. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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It will be interesting to see what we get out of Sam. Initially I wasn’t happy at his exit from ASU (and if you take the fans and his coach for their word) they were happy to trade him to KU. Maturity was the biggest concern I had for him coming to the program. Has he matured in his time off? We’ll find out quick because he joins the team as the 9th option on the team. So he’s going to have to battle just to see the court other then mop up time or injury/foul trouble.
I hope we get to see his perimeter shot and see him blending in with the team. Going to keep an open mind in regards to him until we see what he can do. If he can defend and make a few perimeter shots I hope he sticks around and continues to work on his game. Seems like he could be easily forgotten if he doesn’t get on the court a ton this season
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@BeddieKU23 Ryan/BHam made a post that generally mirrors my thoughts on 247 except I think I am a BIT higher on Moore. He tends to be on the negative side so everyone keep that in mind as I quote this. He is however, generally knowledgeable and has a good read on what the staff is thinking.
"I think KU is looking at Dotson, Vick, and Garrett right now as the perimeter for next season. Add Grimes and you’ve got a really nice core 4 to spread minutes too.
Charlie Moore is good for depth, and if Vick leaves, he gives you some more scoring punch by sliding into that group of 4. I’m still not entirely sure on the Moore take, though, as it still seems a bit odd to me.
Not as odd as taking Cunliffe, who I’m not sure will ever play meaningful minutes, barring injuries.
If KU adds Grimes, I expect Dotson, Vick, Garrett is probably the day 1 starting guards, with Grimes likely being the first guy off the bench. If Vick goes, that makes things murkier because KU might want to avoid 2 freshman as the ballhandlers alongside Garrett from the outset.
I don’t think KJ ultimately plays as anything but a small-ball 4 like Josh or Billy."
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I did see his post. Some interesting comments.
I’m high on Moore in year 4 and 5. Next year is perfect to have a better option with Dotson. Maybe you get a player like Nic Moore (small in stature, scorer, leader) etc down the road. That’s what I’m hoping for because physically he’s always going to be limited. Jeff Goodman referred to him as a High School freshman in stature at a recent practice. I think the sit-out year and rotation role next season is exactly what we need from him in the immediate future
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@BeddieKU23 Agree about Moore. If next year’s starting guard line-up is Dotson, Vick, Garrett I think that’s pretty damn good.
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@BShark Grimes and Garrett would be interchangeable to me. Both big guards who can handle the ball, but probably better suited to being primarily off the ball and could play 1-3 at any point.
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I still think we get Grimes, but if we don’t, Langford is still on the board. Though I do think he wants to play with Grimes, so maybe Vandy gets him to go with Garland. But it is interesting that we’re seeing the staff so high on Garrett that they’re penciling him in the lineup next season no matter what. I don’t blame them because Garrett is going to be phenomenal. But missing on Grimes would sting like crazy.
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Grimes appears to be a better shooter than Garrett but otherwise I would agree.
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He definitely is. With all that’s around him, Grimes could shoot 42%+ from 3 next season. He’ll get some great looks with Garrett, Dotson, and Vick/Langford slashing.
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With Grimes rumored to be OAD by some, hard for me to see him backing up Garrett. I guess if Self plays small ball the entire season, that problem is solved.
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@ajvan I don’t see how we can play small ball with Silvio, the Lawson brothers, and Maccormack. If Grimes doesn’t think he can beat out Garrett, do we really have to have him?
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I still think so. He’s so talented and Vick may decide to leave. I don’t want to rely on Moore as the starting 2 if Vick leaves and we miss on Grimes.
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@KUSTEVE I think we will probably see more next year again of the traditional with two big’s again - -Self likes that - -but plays to his roster. - with the big’s you mentioned ya our front court is going to be crazy. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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When KJ is at the 4 it will be closer to small ball.
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Just asked around again on Grimes. Still Kansas.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Just asked around again on Grimes. Still Kansas.
Good to hear. Tonto seemed to have some solid insight on the situation, though you probably already read that.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Just asked around again on Grimes. Still Kansas.
That’s good news - -just got to get through the next 24 hours - will feel soo much better. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I did! Sounds like we’re talking to different people. I know he has contacts in the South, so maybe he’s talking to people on UT’s end.
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I’m starting to feel like a little kid on the night BEFORE Christmas, waiting for Christmas morning.
Visions of De-Sousa , McCormack , Dotson , & Grimes - then comes the new year and along comes Langford - -don’t wake me up - let it be lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark We know what Tonto thinks, what about the Lone Ranger?
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Hey, where did my tag line go, Aproxx?
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KUSTEVE said:
Hey, where did my tag line go, Aproxx?
POOF ! ! ! GONE lol. - - - -JUMPIN - - -GEE – HOSSA - -FATS.- - - golly gee wow batman - -where that tag go. - -lol - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Mercy ! ! ! - -Iowa State getting beat by 18 at Hilton by Milwaukee? - am worse then I thought - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@FarmerJayhawk Who’d you ask?
@jayballer54 The powerful Big 12 flexing its early season muscle.
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jayballer54 said:
Mercy ! ! ! - -Iowa State getting beat by 18 at Hilton by Milwaukee? - am worse then I thought - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Can we stay on topic here
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blackmild33 said:
jayballer54 said:
Mercy ! ! ! - -Iowa State getting beat by 18 at Hilton by Milwaukee? - am worse then I thought - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Can we stay on topic here
Ya CAN we? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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HighEliteMajor said:
@FarmerJayhawk Who’d you ask?
@jayballer54 The powerful Big 12 flexing its early season muscle.
Won’t say. But I’m not changing my mind. More good news tomorrow.
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The conference is 15-3 so far with 2 of the losses by ISU and 1 by WVU. The ACC is 24-9 so technically the Big 12 has a better winning percentage.
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@JayHawkFanToo Not sure I would shout from the mountaintop about that 15-3 record. Other than us beating UK, there isn’t a single quality win among the bunch - not sure if any will be top RPI 100 wins. Against Power 5 opponents, the conference is 1-2. Other than ISU’s loss to Milwaukee, about the best that can be said is that the conference has avoided any really bad losses so far.
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@BShark LOL - - -Let me try: -Grimes , Grimes , Grimes , Grimes , Grimes , Grimes , Grimes , Grimes , Grimes , Grimes, Grimes , Grimes – hell at I LIKE IT - - Come on down Quentin - -welcome to Jayhawk Nation. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@DCHawker Iowa State is really bad - - -really , really bad - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Hearing from too many people that KU is the choice.
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BShark said:
@jayballer54 Hearing from too many people that KU is the choice.
HELL YA - - let’s do this - -complete a great week - Win vs Kentucky, - -be able to Land Quentin - -& then for the icing- get noticed that De-Sousa has been cleared by the NCAA for re-classification by the end of the week - -I’ll take that lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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KU just got a CB pick for Grimes. Fully expecting a run there as it leaks.
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@BShark when and where’s the announcement? Please?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark when and where’s the announcement? Please?
6:30pm. At his school in Texas
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Should be a Facebook Live stream too.
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Everybody good now? There was some panic creeping in…
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I certainly understand why we would get nervous, we’ve certainly been down the rabbit hole a few times with recruits we thought were shoe-ins.
Surprisingly I have been very confident with Q for a while. The staffs lack of movement on other recruits tells a big picture here. If that ends up being a key indicator with this one its always something to consider in future recruitment’s.
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Thx Jayhawks!
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Matt Scott just 100% confirmed it’s KU. Party is on.
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I’m still waiting for the bird-Jayhawk to sing
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BShark said:
Matt Scott just 100% confirmed it’s KU. Party is on.
what a recruiting haul!
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Oh look, CB point troll Dain Ervin flipped to Kansas. CB back to 100% KU.
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BeddieKU23 said:
I certainly understand why we would get nervous, we’ve certainly been down the rabbit hole a few times with recruits we thought were shoe-ins.
Surprisingly I have been very confident with Q for a while. The staffs lack of movement on other recruits tells a big picture here. If that ends up being a key indicator with this one its always something to consider in future recruitment’s.
Of note that Shaka/UT has made a big push for Courtney Ramey. They are not confident and never have been.
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It’s over. What a haul. We’re pretty much done recruiting now for awhile. I think only one realistic target left (Langford). And that’s only if Vick leaves. Givony at ESPN is saying Udoka isn’t really on draft radars yet this season. More likely than not we bring them both back than neither as of today. Have fun America.