Are we done recruiting?
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
The kid is dying for a true blue blood offer, if UK does offer, they will get him.
Brown is a project but a big kid with some talent to work with. I’d honestly like to see him go anywhere but UK
Looks like UK might have ran out of other options. I don’t think Cal wants to take Brown. He might not offer until Bol makes it official for Oregon. With Barrett looking Duke bound he probably regrets not going after Shittu.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
The kid is dying for a true blue blood offer, if UK does offer, they will get him.
Brown is a project but a big kid with some talent to work with. I’d honestly like to see him go anywhere but UK
Looks like UK might have ran out of other options. I don’t think Cal wants to take Brown. He might not offer until Bol makes it official for Oregon. With Barrett looking Duke bound he probably regrets not going after Shittu.
Yeah its looking like UK is trying to get anything they can at this point. Moses has played this recruitment out so who know whether his comments about UK will mean anything. Usually they do but we’ll see,
Shittu, I’m surprised they didn’t press further with him but I think this actually might have been a case of the player not seeing playing time available. UK has a bunch of bigs but the NBA isn’t drooling about them so some kids are not seeing the guarantee’s of them being gone after this year. I haven’t heard much on his recruitment lately but doesn’t it seem like Vandy was in the drivers seat for him?
Bol didn’t announce of Oregon yet? Stopped paying attention to that one.
Barrett, ugh such a talent going to Duke. Reddish & Barrett jeesh. Only team on trail that’s beaten KU in this cycle. Really impressed to say that Self has been money
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@BeddieKU23 He hasn’t even set an announcement date, but it’s Oregon, obviously. With the way news leaked I would assume he is a silent commit already.
Vandy or UNC for Shittu.
Nike wasn’t going to let Barrett get away. Duke’s class is going to be completely absurd.
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Calipari was holding out for Barrett. There’s some bad blood between RJ and Shittu for some reason.
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BShark said:
The kid is dying for a true blue blood offer, if UK does offer, they will get him.
Not that impressed with him - -ya he is 7ft 2 but project - Everyone thinking since they lost out on Bol Bol - -even though not confirmed yet- but seems he is going to Oregon. - -Ya He wanted a UK offer hasn’t been made yet but it’s coming. - -Not knocking the kid but still gonna take time for him. - - On another note. - - Is it just me or what? - -Probably is but am I overlooking things with Bol Bol? - -I mean even when he was still here in Kansas seeing his highlite - seemed kind of soft. - -just seemed he wanted to play outside more then in. - -Not sure if he can really bang with the Big Solid bodies inside - -he seems to kind of for a lack of better words loaf/slack - - uninspired sometimes maybe just me.
I know ya he looks good against High School kids because he gets away with a lot because of his height - -not really sure about his explosion - -sorry I am just not seeing a # 3 - -# 4 ranked player in the clas. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Calipari was holding out for Barrett. There’s some bad blood between RJ and Shittu for some reason.
Stems from AAU and Canadian play that Andrew Slater elaborated on over the summer. Apparently it’s not just that RJ and Shittu don’t get along but its the father’s as well. Funny when the parents have beef with each other
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@BeddieKU23 It would just break my heart, and funny as all get out if UK ended up offering Moses & then even though he said he wanted UK offer - -if they offered and then Moses ended up going to Maryland or UCLA after all and Kentucky lose out on him also - -Lose Bol Bol - -Brown & Shittu - - -THAT would truly be a Kodak moment for me - - -Priceless - - I could hear the UK fans now. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Careful, we don’t need that kind of karma coming back on us. It would be funny but we know how recruiting goes.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Careful, we don’t need that kind of karma coming back on us. It would be funny but we know how recruiting goes.
Agree. It works in cycles. UK also had a “down class” in terms of missing out on top targets in 2015. On paper the class still looked fine, they just had a lot of misses. At the end of the day Cal is going to fill the roster and of course then Cal fell ass backwards into Jamal Murray in that class.
UK fans didn’t want to believe Slater when he said UK wasn’t well positioned in this class. Of course Slater also said he fully expect UK to kill it in 2019.
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Sounds like Josh Green is a high priority in 19.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article182967906.html
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BShark said:
Sounds like Josh Green is a high priority in 19.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article182967906.html
Looks like a good priority! We’ll see how this one progresses
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He’s a teammate of Silvio’s at IMG. Can’t hurt.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
He’s a teammate of Silvio’s at IMG. Can’t hurt.
Plus IMG seems to be KU friendly. Definitely a positive.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Sounds like Josh Green is a high priority in 19.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article182967906.html
Looks like a good priority! We’ll see how this one progresses
He’s really really good. Will KU have room for him and Harvey though?
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I’d take Green over Harvey. You always want to lock up local talent that loves your program so I do hope Harvey is a hawk no matter what happens.
From what I’ve seen of Harvey he’s not as important as Robinson-Earl is in 19. Especially at the position Harvey plays we often land or get the running for the elite wings out there. Is Harvey even a priority?
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@BeddieKU23 I think there is a chance he could end up at Creighton with Ballock. With the way recruiting is trending we will find out a lot more about who KU is going after in 2019 soon. We certainly appear to be in deeper with Matt Hurt than many were thinking.
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Man this Quentin Grimes recruitment been crazy , I mean ya sure, there has been SOME talk the Grimes has already quietly committed , some people saying he committed on his visit - -some saying he committed of Coach’s last in home visit -all kinds of this and that going around ya know?
But from my take this has been one a the very few where the inner circle has been kept tight as a drum - - -NOTHING that I can see or have been able to read about. I mean usually after all the in-home visits - - all the official visits after like 3-4 days a person might see/hear SOMETHING - -some kind of leak no matter how tiny but with this - - nothing.
I’ve seen some things people saying they are hearing something going down around the 13th possibly - -but just nothing solid. - -I still think when it’s all said and done he is here, but again most the time you’ll start to see SOME kind of CB movement - -some analyst making a prediction - -but there has been none. So in a way I guess - -that’s good - -real good - cause the current CB still has us by a huge margin nothing has changed there. - -
Just usually there is some activity - -like ya know even the recruit making an announcement about when he is going to announce lmao. - -I’ll just feel a lot better when he has actually committed publicly to KU - -preferably in the fall signing period - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Don’t sweat it, Grimes is a Jayhawk.
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Cool the jets he’s a hawk. He might do the ESPN thing, we’ll see.
I’m sure its all in the works behind the scenes. Sit back have a coolada and we’ll wake you up when he announces it official my fellow friend
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Looks like - - Iowa State high light the Big 12 opening regular season game opponents Friday.
Iowa State plays Missouri - -& West Virginia plays Texas A&M in the Armed Forces Classic. - -Nothing huge but considering the other opponents for the rest of the Big 12 schools these are the two best probably.
Also FWIW - nothing huge but the score was a little more then what at least I thought it might be - - Texas Tech beat New Mexico State by 30. - -84- True New Mexico is by far no power - -but still that’s quite a beating no mater - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Hey thanks - --now there sounds like a plan lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BeddieKU23 said:
Cool the jets he’s a hawk. He might do the ESPN thing, we’ll see.
I’m sure its all in the works behind the scenes. Sit back have a coolada and we’ll wake you up when he announces it official my fellow friend
Too many people that would know feel great about Grimes. Or in the case of one guy he has been downplaying Grimes because he knows he will be a Hawk and he likes to view the worst case scenario for KU recruits.
Have read from multiple people that he wants to do it on ESPN. I would guess right now that’s how it happens.
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That’s great if he wants to publicly announce his (already silent) commitment on ESPN. Just gives KU that much more exposure and lets other future 5-star recruits see highly talented players proudly choosing Kansas.
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@BShark So you thinking he will commit in the early period for us? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@IndyHawk Very much agree, it’s good for the brand. We may not like him but Cal is a master at this stuff.
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jayballer54 said:
@BShark So you thinking he will commit in the early period for us? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
He’s already committed to KU it just isn’t public. It should happen in the early period and he should sign.
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Ok have another question , full of them today lol. - So rolling to the future a tad, - -We know Devon is ours 100% – We know Charlie Moore is going to be here & sure looks like and sounds for sure Quentin is coming. I has been mentioned by people , even people here too as far as that goes - thinking Dotson is a 3-4 yr player - -Grimes at least a Couple of year player -Moore is going to be a 3 year player, so my question is - - Does ANYONE think even in the slightest most crazy insane way that with these guys being here that possibly - -possibly Markese Jacobs re-considers and decides to play somewhere else in 2019? - -just curious sincerely don’t know. - -Plus on top of that - -there has been some talk recently about this Green kid? - -and then you have the possibility of Harvey? - -pretty crowded wouldn’t it be - -again just curious – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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No.
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Grimes is a max 2 year guy. Dotson won’t be here for 4 years either. Jacobs won’t be a big contributor until year 2-3 anyway. No worries there.
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Markese’s love for KU can not be measured plus Grimes is looking more like a OAD every day.
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BShark said:
Markese’s love for KU can not be measured plus Grimes is looking more like a OAD every day.
True on Grimes but the way it is looking I think Quentin is going to be playing more at the 2 then the Pg anyways so he wouldn’t effect Jacobs decision as much as per say Harvey - - is this Green a pg? - -Moore still here. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Grimes is a max 2 year guy. Dotson won’t be here for 4 years either. Jacobs won’t be a big contributor until year 2-3 anyway. No worries there.
The more I see of Grimes the more I think he works his way into being OAD.
Agree about Jacobs he isn’t a guy that is going to start year one. He can develop while SO Dotson and RS JR Moore run the show. Great situation. Also all three of them being from Chicago is pretty cool. Looks like it’s going to be a knock down drag out fight for Adam Miller between KU and ILL.
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jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
Markese’s love for KU can not be measured plus Grimes is looking more like a OAD every day.
True on Grimes but the way it is looking I think Quentin is going to be playing more at the 2 then the Pg anyways so he wouldn’t effect Jacobs decision as much as per say Harvey - - is this Green a pg? - -Moore still here. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Green is more of a 2G/wing. Immensely talented, KU would be lucky to land him.
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I see Grimes as a OAD. But that will largely depend on his season and how big his role is. If he struggles and has an up and down freshman year then that’s where the 2nd year becomes a benefit to him. Plus the NBA is going to want to see which position he’s going to settle into. Is he a big PG or will he be a smaller 2 guard like Gary Harris (which he’s been compared too). The NBA has been pretty salty on combo guards lately. Too early to tell but if your already on Mock Drafts in the Top 10, chances are your already being scouted and coveted.
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Ok. - -guess this question will never be settled 100% for sure until he actually announces and or signs that LOI. So Gonna toss this out again - -Is there anybody here that think we stand a whiff of a chance at all of possibly getting Zion convinced to come play here at KU?
I know most including myself feel like there isn’t hardly no chance at all he comes BUT - - - the ONLY reason I might think there is a tiny chance would be that he hit it off so well with Devon on the circuit saying he would like to play with him - -BUT he also is a very good friend of Quickley & then Little is trying to get him there also - -BUT pretty hush hush and even the analysts say they are just not sure & his last CB just came out and again it showed Foggy. - -Anybody think we have any kind of shot? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I still think there is a chance he picks KU. There is the Adidas connection and the Dotson connection in our favor. KU may not be the favorite at this time but there is still a lot of time between now and spring signing period which is when most expect he will decide. For instance, say KU beats Kentucky down next week, perhaps that levels the competition again, who knows. Time is on KU’s side to make up ground, assuming they trail right now. He and Langford are probably going to play the wait and see game to see how Vick’s season goes and if he is leaning towards leaving or staying.
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@RockkChalkk I’m Thinking the chances that Vick leave at fairly good, I think as the season progresses he is just going to keep improving - -at the very least he will test the waters, and My gut just tells me he is gone.
Now on the other hand - -not that long ago I felt 100 % Doke was gone at the end of the year - -now I’m getting a little more of hesitation - not so sure - -he has ALOT of work to do , he needs development - that’s not trying to put a knock against him but just saying - -still very raw Plus Doke may be more of a dying breed in the NBA - - a true BIG - as we use to see anyways - -now the NBA is trending more towards smaller quicker - more fluid - faster paced and unless Doke can develop some kind of shot - -fairly consistent other then a dunk could spell trouble just not sure. - -Could you imagine if he came back with what we have already plus coming in next year - - -Holy Cow. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Color me crazy, but if I had to pick between a senior Vick and a freshman Zion, I’m picking senior Vick every time.
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I think for Zion to end up at KU we need some things to go our way.
The distance issue needs to be cleared up? Is it a problem? He’s considering schools close to home and KU. If the Zion family wants to see him playing closer to home we are out no matter what is reported.
Our recruiting class should be attractive to him if he sees himself as a wing in College and in the NBA. We have a need for an elite wing and we signed his friend Dotson.
The biggest thing KU needs is probably help from other teams. We need Kentucky’s current freshman class to have some guys returning. PJ Washington, Vanderbilt, Gabriel. These are guys that are not exactly being touted at Top 10 picks right now but are similar players to Zion and if they all leave he’s got a ton of PT to himself.
Duke should become less attractive to him after they sign Barrett tomm. Too many mouths to feed with Reddish and RJ.
UNC I think is intriguing because they will play a style of play that would maximize his skills right now. Nobody runs transition like UNC and nobody can stop Zion in transition. They have a clear need for an upgrade at his position. I actually think they might have the best chance right now.
The local schools? Clemson seems over-matched here but we hear they have done a good job recruiting him. Martin has kept them in it at USC east as well. I imagine how their seasons go will have an impact on how he views them.
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@BeddieKU23 Agree with all you said , the only thing is and answer to what you say - my feeling is - -that the distance thing is NOT an issue I don’t believe - -if it was we would of never gotten to the final five or whatever in the 1st place.
I think he does have a sincere interest - the question being just to what extent? - -Is Dotson - -Adidas - -Coach Self enough to draw him? ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Sure, KU has a shot at Zion. As does Duke, UK, and Clemson. I think SC and UNC are window dressing. It mostly depends on how rosters shake out. UK will have to have guys leave on the margin (like Vanderbilt), and we’d have to have Vick and/or Udoka leave, depending on if the staff wants him at the 3 or 4. This one could drag on until April, or be over in December. It’s totally up in the air right now.
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Clemson, South Carolina, Duke and UNC are all within 1-3 hours drive form his home so, if proximity to home is important, these 4 schools would have an advantage. Duke and UNC are blue blood programs and Clemson and South Carolina are the top basketball school in the state, again a big advantage if he wants to stay in-state.
I am inclined to think that Zion would start or get significant playing time anywhere he goes so playing time might not be as big of a deal.
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I do think the distance is a factor. He eliminated UCLA recently and went to visit UNC instead. There has to be some reservation in his camp either from him or his parents about leaving the south. Maybe its not a deciding factor but I do think its there. And if I was looking at this from the outside in, KU might only be on his list so that a flagship Adidas school is represented in his recruitment. The Adidas factor seemed to have legs until the FBI rolled in. Things have changed.
The Zion’s don’t talk so obviously most of what we are talking about is opinion and assumptions. I could be totally wrong. If we go by rosters its hard to see him picking a school before spring with all the Elite schools not having a ton of clarity on their rosters. He could be the type to drag this out well into May. I think that’s a good possibility actually. He’s a rockstar so he’s got to keep this going.
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On the other hand, rosters might be full and scholarships not available. Having said that, I will guess that programs would find a way to get him a schoolie.
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Yeah if he decides on a school he’ll have a spot anywhere he goes. We haven’t seen a ton of transparency in this recruitment so its hard to assume what they are looking for the most. KU certainly positioned itself well by getting his friend Dotson and signing bigs in the class he can play around. We got him in for Late Night and have kept communication with him. So from a recruiting prospective KU has done its due diligence here and with a player like him its all about what he wants and where he wants to be for a year.
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Langford to sign in the spring. That’s a plus for KU.
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Keldon Johnson signing this Saturday. Have to think Kentucky won this one.
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Shittu canceled his trip to UNC. Sounds like Vandy might have won this one.
Arizona commit Brandon Williams won’t sign this fall. Not a good sign and can’t say I blame him without knowing the fall out from Arizona
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BeddieKU23 said:
Shittu canceled his trip to UNC. Sounds like Vandy might have won this one.
Arizona commit Brandon Williams won’t sign this fall. Not a good sign and can’t say I blame him without knowing the fall out from Arizona
Shaqtus JR isn’t signing either. My guess is neither ends up there. Arizona fans should enjoy this season because it’s about to get rough.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Langford to sign in the spring. That’s a plus for KU.
Excellent. Is his top 3 out yet?
