ROMEO LANGFORD
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Even if Langford flipped to KU, I would still want Grimes to join him. Langford is a “true 2”. He’s not going to slide over and run the point, although his handle is solid. He needs to play with a PG. Garrett could be workable in that role, but I would love a combo of Langford and Grimes - I could see Langford, Grimes and Garrett all on the floor together.
Not sure how this all plays out. There could be several dominoes to fall with everything that is coming out.
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BShark said:
Langford is a wing. Grimes is a guard.
Exactly. Grimes would play the 2 and Langford the 3 in Self’s preferred offense. I don’t really think they affect each other. Langford is looking more if Vick stays or goes, if anything.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Langford is a wing. Grimes is a guard.
Exactly. Grimes would play the 2 and Langford the 3 in Self’s preferred offense. I don’t really think they affect each other. Langford is looking more if Vick stays or goes, if anything.
I think if he is willing to come then it’s not hard for Vick to go pro, in fact maybe recommended to do so, to tell Langford there is a spot for him.
This goes back to the Selden v JJ thing and I’m sure some will disagree with me on it.
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@BShark I think that’s right. If Vick has a late first grade with Langford and Grimes coming, he should take it. Langford is so talented that he’s not sitting on any roster next season.
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Self and Howard checked in with him last night. Visit to KU is set for Oct 28.
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wowzers that moved fast
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BeddieKU23 said:
wowzers that moved fast
I’ll be honest if KU gets Grimes and Langford I wouldn’t even care if Dotson went to MD. Hell maybe this is a factor…he did cut AZ right before Quinerly popped for them.
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@BShark Always remember this: if it is from Gregg Doyel, it is guaranteed to be wrong 90% of the time.
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KUSTEVE said:
@BShark Always remember this: if it is from Gregg Doyel, it is guaranteed to be wrong 90% of the time.
Almost forgot you hate his guts. I have nothing against him.
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@BShark I don’t hate Doyel - that requires too much work. I just think he is an attention seeking pinhead with a typewriter.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
wowzers that moved fast
I’ll be honest if KU gets Grimes and Langford I wouldn’t even care if Dotson went to MD. Hell maybe this is a factor…he did cut AZ right before Quinerly popped for them.
Ummm, you do know your hurting my feelings right lol? - -Devon has been my boy from day 1, and there you go talking and saying you don’t care if he comes here or not lol. So you maybe trying to say that he is visiting Maryland on the assumption that Langford is about ready to pop for us? - You or I hope you know I’m just messing with you and giving you a hard time.
So he says his visit is on the 28thth, so wondering if that means he will stay her for late night? I just don’t know what to think - - like was said JUMPIN - -GEE - -HOSSA - -FATS - -this came out of no where, well not nowhere but thought he was pretty well Louisville bound. Crazy recruiting season - -possible HUGE recruiting season for us if all plays out. - -So we now have possibilities of Grimes/ Strong - - Dotson/ I still feel strong - -& Romeo - will be very interesting how this plays out. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Read off the Louisville Board that Rick is expected to be fired in the morning , So that could be a big shift for us in the Langford recruitment although that leaves us with Indiana, we shall see
I have a feeling that this Corruption thing is just getting started - -I don’t think any school really safe - - this is just the tip of the Ice Berg. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
Read off the Louisville Board that Rick is expected to be fired in the morning , So that could be a big shift for us in the Langford recruitment although that leaves us with Indiana, we shall see
I have a feeling that this Corruption thing is just getting started - -I don’t think any school really safe - - this is just the tip of the Ice Berg. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No doubt it will come down to KU and IU.
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@BShark Just read from the site - Zags blog that Langford according to his Dada will take his 1st official visit to UCLA THIS WEKEND, Whaaa? - -I thought he was visiting here? on the 28th. - - gave a list of schools he is trying to work out a time frame for visit - -I’m really confused now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Nothing all that confusing.
http://247sports.com/player/romeo-langford-86372
All his visits are listed. Yes he will visit UCLA and UNC. I think it comes down to IU and KU.
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@BShark Well I’m not to smart but seems to me that it would be pretty hard to visit UCLA this weekend when it was stated that he is visiting here on the 28th. Visits usually late just a wee bit more then 24 hours. - -so ya still confusing. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
@BShark Well I’m not to smart but seems to me that it would be pretty hard to visit UCLA this weekend when it was stated that he is visiting here on the 28th. Visits usually late just a wee bit more then 24 hours. - -so ya still confusing. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think you’ve confused yourself. KU visit is OCTOBER 28 not September.
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@jayballer54 hey Rick… You still S.U.C.K. lol
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BShark said:
jayballer54 said:
@BShark Well I’m not to smart but seems to me that it would be pretty hard to visit UCLA this weekend when it was stated that he is visiting here on the 28th. Visits usually late just a wee bit more then 24 hours. - -so ya still confusing. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think you’ve confused yourself. KU visit is OCTOBER 28 not September.
Furthermore, the early signing period is a week after the visit.
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At this time Louisville is radioactive and no prospect will touch it. This is why Romeo Langford is reconsidering his options now that Louisville, which seemed to the likely destination, is most likely out. Nothing really surprising. Looks like Pitino has finally run out of luck.
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jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
wowzers that moved fast
I’ll be honest if KU gets Grimes and Langford I wouldn’t even care if Dotson went to MD. Hell maybe this is a factor…he did cut AZ right before Quinerly popped for them.
Ummm, you do know your hurting my feelings right lol? - -Devon has been my boy from day 1, and there you go talking and saying you don’t care if he comes here or not lol. So you maybe trying to say that he is visiting Maryland on the assumption that Langford is about ready to pop for us? - You or I hope you know I’m just messing with you and giving you a hard time.
So he says his visit is on the 28thth, so wondering if that means he will stay her for late night? I just don’t know what to think - - like was said JUMPIN - -GEE - -HOSSA - -FATS - -this came out of no where, well not nowhere but thought he was pretty well Louisville bound. Crazy recruiting season - -possible HUGE recruiting season for us if all plays out. - -So we now have possibilities of Grimes/ Strong - - Dotson/ I still feel strong - -& Romeo - will be very interesting how this plays out. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Lol. Would love to see Dotson end up at KU, just doesn’t seem likely now.
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@BShark yep your right, my bad I am one confused cookie. - got my mind on to much at once lol, must be the old visit for my tests with the heart doctor got me confused. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Louisville officially out. I think KU has the upper hand here, but Indiana is a strong competitor too.
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@FarmerJayhawk I thing it is a big plus that it is Stumps brother who is trying to get him. Hard to believe Stumps wouldn’t be helping him get guys.
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Looks like October going to be a big month on the guards.
Dotson likely to decide soon.
Grimes visits the 13th. Staff has been to see him multiple times already
Langford comes the 28th. Another the staff has been out to see.
I think its only a matter of waiting it out, I can’t imagine we are going 0-3 here
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Any news on Zion Williamson?
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@JayHawkFanToo We’re waiting for his handlers to give us his final price to sign…BWHAHAHAHA !!!
sarc/ on.
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KUSTEVE said:
@JayHawkFanToo We’re waiting for his handlers to give us his final price to sign…BWHAHAHAHA !!!
sarc/ on.
Chances are he’ll have to get his money from someone other then James Gatto. Oooo
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@JayHawkFanToo He will be in Lawrence tomorrow.
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KUSTEVE said:
@JayHawkFanToo We’re waiting for his handlers to give us his final price to sign…BWHAHAHAHA !!!
sarc/ on.
Now you cut that out lmao. - - – - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well in the FWIW dept, I saw where Ku picked up a couple of CB’S for Langford , but trail according to 247 by a substantial to Indiana for him.
If it came down to it which would you prefer? - - - Grimes Or Langford? - if we could only have one of them. - -I just think Grimes is the better OVERALL player, maybe a little better frame of mind is that right? - or game attitude? - they talk about how Langford somethings come to easy for him has a tendency to relax/lazy at times? - -Grimes bust his ass - this is just me, who would you prefer? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I prefer Grimes but these two guys might end up being a splitting hairs type deal. The edge for Grimes with me is the ability to play both guard positions which is a need for next years team. I think they are both going into College with intentions of being OAD’s
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I prefer Langford personally. I think he is a better athlete and will be able to score from 3 levels right away. I think Grimes will end up stuck as a wing who only shoots 3s his first season or two and then develop into a guy who can score at all 3 levels.
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Kcmatt7 said:
I prefer Langford personally. I think he is a better athlete and will be able to score from 3 levels right away. I think Grimes will end up stuck as a wing who only shoots 3s his first season or two and then develop into a guy who can score at all 3 levels.
Depends on the roster. If KU doesn’t get Dotson (likely, imo) but then gets Grimes and another guard at random. Then say Newman goes pro as expected. Grimes is one of the top 3 ball handlers on the team*, he would run back-up point and play mostly 2 guard imo.
Langford is definitely a 2/wing under Self.
*Moore and Garrett being the other two.
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@BShark It is like splitting hairs. I think there is room for both. I think it may come down to who commits first (I think Langford’s recruitment is about to move pretty quick now, but I have no details to support that. Just seems like it will). I’m afraid that Grimes is scared of Langford and will go elsewhere if we get him. Have to be able to sell both of them on playing together.
I would think it would be an easy pitch to Grimes. Hey, you want to be an NBA PG. Well having this guy on the court with you will make that job easier. Not to mention, you won’t even see the PG position if you go to UK. Here, we have one PG and you will be the other main ball handler.
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@Kcmatt7 Agree it’s close and there is room for both. If I could choose I’d probably take Dotson and Grimes.
Dotson/Moore/Garrett/Grimes
Moore/Garrett/Grimes/Langford
Hard to go wrong either way.
I count Cunliffe and KJ as more 3/4 types.
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That ordering is in order of who you’d want running the point in my own opinion. I do know that some prefer Garrett to Moore.
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@BShark They should be backups. No doubt about it. Solid backups, but Cunliffe and KJ are not blue blood starters.
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@BShark I personally like Garrett as a utility guy. I haven’t seen him handle the ball well enough in a college game to be comfortable with him running point. However, I think he handles the ball extremely well for all other positions on the court and could be a huge mismatch at the 2-4 spots.
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@Kcmatt7 Yeah. They will be nice utility players to have next year. Can back-up the wing or the 4 in match-ups where we need to go small.
As for Garrett my own thoughts are known but there are those that think he can run point in time. Garrett certainly has “IT” which we know Self loves.
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Landing Grimes and Langford and we sing his praises for years.
I feel the same with Dotson as well.
As weak as the 2018 class is overall these 3 guards are no question really good players. They are all option A type recruits. We landed potentially the best College 5 in the class and one of Top 5 4’s in the class as well. That’s some crazy good recruiting and relationships developed.
Hopefully it all works out, KU is due for this type of class that keeps us at the top
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BeddieKU23 said:
We landed potentially the best College 5 in the class
3-4 year guy that knows he is a big and fits what Self wants like a glove vs a talented but head case OAD 7 footer with effort issues. Hmm I know what I’d take.
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ESPN listed Langford and Grimes #8 and #9 in their way too early 2019 Draft board…
Yeah good luck seeing these kids past their 1 year
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How does Romeo pronounce his name? Roh-MAY-oh or ROH-me-oh?
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BeddieKU23 said:
ESPN listed Langford and Grimes #8 and #9 in their way too early 2019 Draft board…
Yeah good luck seeing these kids past their 1 year
Wow Grimes is climbing. Was really hoping he’d be a 2 year guy.
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If I had to choose between the two, I would pick Grimes. You can never have enough ball handlers. True, Langford is one of those scorers that could glide his way to 30 on any given night. He could end up being a superstar. So my preference isn’t even necessarily that Grimes is hands down the better player. Honestly, I’m not sure either is “hands down” better than the other.
It’s just that Grimes can fit with any combination of players. He can slide into a ball handling role if we have a ton of wings. If we land a guy like Dotson, Grimes slots nicely as a wing. If Vick stays, he can be the secondary ball handler. Langford is a true 2. He will be the starting shooting guard wherever he goes. But if you lack ball handlers, Langford isn’t going to slide into that role. He may be the better player (reasonable people can disagree on that), but he is not the more versatile one (Grimes can fit in any scheme with any personnel group - he’s a smaller version of Josh Jackson in that respect. Put him on the floor with four other guys and he will find a way to fit).
I’d take Grimes over Langford, but would prefer both because that would be one heck of a backcourt.
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Marcus Garret can play PG. As a PG he led his team to the State semifinal and was the Gatorade POY in Texas, all of this as a PG. Read some of the comments here and here about him playing not only PG but all 3 guard positions. I believe he would be a very capable PG for KU.
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Self already loves Garrett. I’d bet on him being the 5th “small” this year.
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@JayHawkFanToo People saying that remind me of the same people who said they though Bragg would be able to play some at the 3 spot before we ever saw him actually play.
Garrett was the best player on the court 99% of the time. Why not just put the ball in his hands to start? It is similar to a lot of high schools or even colleges just putting their best athlete at QB.
