Next recruit up
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@BShark trouble
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@drgnslayr If weāre 3/2, then weād see the traditional high/low. Weāve abandoned the high/low. With a true 4/5, I bet it returns.
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Preston and Bragg are both good fits for the 4 in it imo.
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@BShark That would be ok, but that wouldnāt help us for next season as Waters would have to sit out his transfer year. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark Iām STILL not totally convinced Preston will ever put a KU uniform on. - -Hope Iām wrong. ā ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 said:
@BShark That would be ok, but that wouldnāt help us for next season as Waters would have to sit out his transfer year. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No. He would be a decommit not a transfer. Like Tyshawn Taylor. Or like Mason and Graham as well actually.
@jayballer54 said:
@BShark Iām STILL not totally convinced Preston will ever put a KU uniform on. - -Hope Iām wrong. ā ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Donāt worry about it. Feel there would be a lot more smoke. I know where he played before, but he can easily put the work in at Oak Hill and make up credits.
Tfwiw but a Duke insider has said that KU is about to be officially OUT for Duval. Down to Duke and Zona and that Duke is ahead āby a mileā. On the Duke 247 board.
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Available personnel will dictate how he rolls next season. While the 4-1 has been successful so far, Coach Self has played the 3-2 often enoughā¦and an occasional zoneā¦to surprise opponents.
Bragg was supposed to have a good touch out to the 3 point line and be a potential stretch 4, but I have not seen any of that so far. At this point and absent any big surprises I just donāt see Bragg leaving.
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Saw that. Pressure is on to keep Graham
And a side note on Preston; listening to that last Jerry Meyer podcast Jerry broke it down pretty well on the question about Preston. He said yes there is concern especially from where he went to school before. Oak Hill is the place to go if you want to clean up your academics. He basically made it seem like Oak Hill works miracles and is well versed in figuring out how to help these kids get eligible. Not earth shattering news but he seemed to have some re-assuring information to provide about another kid he knew that was in a similar situation and used Oak Hill to clean up his act. If Preston makes it to campus, we will have Oak Hill to thank
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Bragg? I would imagine that the athletic dept. is fully engaged in researching CBās psychological profile, attitude, and off-court activities and inclinations. I think he yet could be a contributor if he can get his head together and in the game. If his behavior is iffy I would send him packing.
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@BShark I realize that we really are wishing hard to even think Duval would commit here but - -ALL Iām going to ask on this about is - -just because this so called Duke insider says that KU is about to be officially out, so that makes it Gospel.Because this guy is a know all do all I get it right? lmao, now Iām not trying to give you hell I fully understand - itās more on the Duke insiders part I am ravin about ā what the hell does he know, just because it is on the Duke 247 board which is but nothing but a bunch of Duke homers just like any other board roflmao ā these guys kill me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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God I hope not.
It will be hard to recruit guards again, and I canāt blame them for going elsewhere.
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@jayballer54 for the last couple of weeks youāve been saying that we all know Duvall is going to Duke. So why ? It now?
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Itās not like high profile guards are lining up right now. A lot of misses in this class. The incoming players for the class as things stand are two transfers and a kid that was 100% to KU if KU wanted due to personal relationships (and to the credit of the staff they took him early). Looks to change in 18 and 19 (we will see) but I tend to believe KU will be generally fine recruiting as long as Self is here.
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@Ralph you are absolutely correct - -still think he is, & IF youāve been following along you can see that Iām not by myself lol. but I find it funny that because A Duke insider says it so , then itās Gospel - -I NEVER said what I was saying was Gospel - but thanks for noticing, Iām not saying he is coming here not by any means, But then again how does this guy know that KU is out? - Iāll continue to say it IS Duke, but hey if you find anything to the contrary be sure and shout out to me. ā All I am pointing out is or wanting to know is - -where is this Duke insider is getting his solid recruiting report - what source - -let us all see it, so we can OFFICALLY count him out, officially say its over for him. - Agaiin I will continue to say like many many others that IS where he is going but we have nothing solid to prove that - so where is this guys solid proof that he is? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - -you gotta love it
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That post sounds more negative than I meant I think. I just donāt think Self going back to running some high low will hurt that much.
Anyway, some news: Jerrance will be checking in on Matt Hurt tonight. Good to see we are still recruiting him with some vigor.
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It is just my opinion, but I think the hi/lo is dead as a standard offense. It is best used as a gimmick or a add-on to something elseā¦ or just abandoned all together.
Running 40 minutes of hi/lo will not keep us on the path we are on now. For example, I seriously doubt Josh would have come to Kansas to play the hi/lo.
The last few years we have gone from a hybrid hi/lo to a complete abandonment of it.
It is an offense that needs to move aside for the current times we live in. The current times are around opening up the trey line. Driving the ball in a motion offense and finishing at the rim or feeding for an open trey. That is the future of offense in the NBA and D1.
And where are all of these big men who bring back-to-the-basket skills with them to Kansas?
The 4out-1in still maintains scoring potential in the post, actually better since it is clogged with one less defensive big. Heck, we donāt have anyone now that can score with their back to the basket.
I believe the hi/lo did us well back in the days. Now time has moved on, and so must our offensive strategy. It is important to keep the post mostly open so our guards can drive. In our traditional hi/lo we stuffed the post with 4 players, camping in the post. Our 2 bigs and our opponentās 2 bigs. Not exactly good spacing for 3 guards to take it to the rim.
Remember back when we ran true hi/lo. We pretty much limited guards driving to one guard only. And by the end of the year, we just perched 3 guards on the trey line and they threw the ball back and fourth quickly hoping a seam opened up.
We canāt pull that kind of stunt now and continue to recruit high recruits (at any position).
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Canāt really disagree. I love the offense as it is currently constructed.
What I was trying to get at earlier is that at this point I feel Self is pretty good at letting the roster dictate the situation. If the roster ends up being Mystery non-elite PG/Newman/Garrett/Vick/Cunliffe as the guards and Bragg/Preston/Coleby/Doke and the 9 guys that get run, I bet we see 3 guards 2 posts the majority of next season. One of the two posts on the floor will likely be pretty skilled though in Preston or Bragg. This assume Bragg gets it together and improves in the off season.
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An exact quote for you re Duval
āHeās not going to Baylor. Heās not going to Kansas either.ā
From that Duke writer.
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Sorryā¦ I reread my last post and didnāt mean to be so snarky. Guess it shows how much I desire us to stay with a motion offense.
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No worries. It was frustrating to watch the old Self offense when it plodded and clogged.
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After experiencing 4 excellent years with Frankā¦ Iām looking for a PG who has a background as a Navy SEAL or Elite Marine. It wouldnāt hurt if he was in the French Foreign Legion either.
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https://twitter.com/KUTheShiver/status/836702680567382016
Could loop that all day. Sooooo nasty.
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I canāt claim to know what Devonte has indicated. But I imagine he has declared to testing the waters this spring, as well he should.
Billās plea is for Devonte if he sits on the fence after checking out his options. Iām certain if he does test the waters he will have some temptation to go. That doesnāt mean he goes.
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Poster on the phog says KU has called Hutch CC about Shakar Juiston. Could you imagine the cyclone salt if we come in and swoop him away?
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@BShark said:
https://twitter.com/KUTheShiver/status/836702680567382016
Could loop that all day. Sooooo nasty.
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Hurt dropped 47 tonight with KU watching.
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@BShark His play reminds me of Brannen Green
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@truehawk93 no D?
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@Crimsonorblue22 He is a little heavy on O and didnāt see much D in this vid
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Referring to Hurt?
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Interesting, they would be salty as well as Seton Hall and others that have been in on him longer. Heās skilled, can score on the block and rebound. Small though, Jamariās sizeā¦
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Hurt is a good one. The Big-10 will be tough to beat for him but at least KU has really put in the leg work early.
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Well looks like the Grimes to reclassify thing is deadā¦
Iāve got a friend that knows his AAU coach pretty well. I asked about reclassification and the response was āno chanceā.
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As usual Shay is clueless. Saw that post from Ryan as well. Also said Hamilton isnāt leaving NC.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Hurt is a good one. The Big-10 will be tough to beat for him but at least KU has really put in the leg work early.
Well, we have done work in Minnesota before.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Interesting, they would be salty as well as Seton Hall and others that have been in on him longer. Heās skilled, can score on the block and rebound. Small though, Jamariās sizeā¦
I honestly think it would be a bad decision for the kid. KU likely has 5 post players already on the roster, whereas ISU has a black hole void for post minutes.
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Self is going down to Hutch today. Guess we will find out how serious KUās interest is pretty quickly.
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Iāve heard though, that Self really likes athletic 6ā7āā power forwards. Heard he will play them over 5 starsā¦ Just a rumour though.
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Iād take him if he looks at the KU offer seriously.
With Hamilton, I donāt know how anyone can claim that will be the case this early. His coach is a die-hard KU fan and heāll run for a team that Frank Mason was on. I do think our chances with him are much better then being adverstised
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KU also had no chance at Doke according to Ryan soooooooo. And I get it, things change and he is just passing on info. But thatās the point, things change. KU can at the very least offer and position themselves to be involved.
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Exactly, our KU insiders have been wrong way too much lately to take much from them in their claims. The Grimes stuff I can believe
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I recall our āfailureā to land Doke. I was never convinced and felt we had him all along.
But to be fair to the recruit people, sometimes players do change their minds at the last second.
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The thing about Doke is FSU essentially BROUGHT HIM OVER FROM AFRICA with the help of Nike iirc. So it was believed that he would show loyalty to if not FSU then at least Nike on some level. Getting him was pretty impressive, but of course Norm was the lead assistant on Doke. Never doubt Norm.
No doubt Cal is already working on spinning this. He wouldnāt have been injured if he picked UK.
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Speaking of Norm I believe he is running point on 7 foot BEAST Moses Brown.
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Would not get that excited but Norm is a great recruiter so weāll see
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I think we know Grimes and Dotson are priority targets (hell Dotson visited KU this year, his jr year) but outside of those two, I think itās a waiting game to see who KU is really in on.
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Agreed!
I will add I think weāve seen enough of how KU recruits lately that we will chase some guys we probably have no point in chasing (Zion etc) because they are elites of their positions etc. It seems like we could be possibly all over the place recruiting bigs besides maybe the one known in Williams. Will be interesting to see if they shadow Gordon at all. I donāt know a tremendous amount about the 18 class outside the top kids weāve mentioned already.
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Sounds like some people have seen Juiston play and are impressed with him. The constant things I see being posted about him, High-Level rebounder, not a jump shooter, high character kid, good vision and can lead the fast break. Video seems to support all that as well
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Sounds like a Bill Self dream. I found a couple twitter accounts that tweet about Hutch CC games. One tweet said a player for an opposing team was daring him to shoot wide open from 15 feet, so Iād guess his range is less than that.
@BeddieKU23 said:
Agreed!
I will add I think weāve seen enough of how KU recruits lately that we will chase some guys we probably have no point in chasing (Zion etc) because they are elites of their positions etc. It seems like we could be possibly all over the place recruiting bigs besides maybe the one known in Williams. Will be interesting to see if they shadow Gordon at all. I donāt know a tremendous amount about the 18 class outside the top kids weāve mentioned already.
Sadly I agree.
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@BeddieKU23 andā¦ he has a story
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Pays tribute to his brother who was senselessly shot and killed after every made bucket. Would love to see Juiston end up at KU. Extremely high character.
