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  • Possible Bill Self spring time miracle: Georgetown fires their coach and Tremont Waters is available again.



  • Jairus Hamilton has officially been offered today.



  • @BShark troublešŸ˜³





  • @drgnslayr If weā€™re 3/2, then weā€™d see the traditional high/low. Weā€™ve abandoned the high/low. With a true 4/5, I bet it returns.



  • @HighEliteMajor

    Preston and Bragg are both good fits for the 4 in it imo.



  • @BShark That would be ok, but that wouldnā€™t help us for next season as Waters would have to sit out his transfer year. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @BShark Iā€™m STILL not totally convinced Preston will ever put a KU uniform on. - -Hope Iā€™m wrong. ā€“ ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @jayballer54 said:

    @BShark That would be ok, but that wouldnā€™t help us for next season as Waters would have to sit out his transfer year. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

    No. He would be a decommit not a transfer. Like Tyshawn Taylor. Or like Mason and Graham as well actually. šŸ‘

    @jayballer54 said:

    @BShark Iā€™m STILL not totally convinced Preston will ever put a KU uniform on. - -Hope Iā€™m wrong. ā€“ ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

    Donā€™t worry about it. Feel there would be a lot more smoke. I know where he played before, but he can easily put the work in at Oak Hill and make up credits.

    @BeddieKU23

    Tfwiw but a Duke insider has said that KU is about to be officially OUT for Duval. Down to Duke and Zona and that Duke is ahead ā€œby a mileā€. On the Duke 247 board.



  • @HighEliteMajor

    Available personnel will dictate how he rolls next season. While the 4-1 has been successful so far, Coach Self has played the 3-2 often enoughā€¦and an occasional zoneā€¦to surprise opponents.

    Bragg was supposed to have a good touch out to the 3 point line and be a potential stretch 4, but I have not seen any of that so far. At this point and absent any big surprises I just donā€™t see Bragg leaving.



  • @BShark

    Saw that. Pressure is on to keep Graham

    And a side note on Preston; listening to that last Jerry Meyer podcast Jerry broke it down pretty well on the question about Preston. He said yes there is concern especially from where he went to school before. Oak Hill is the place to go if you want to clean up your academics. He basically made it seem like Oak Hill works miracles and is well versed in figuring out how to help these kids get eligible. Not earth shattering news but he seemed to have some re-assuring information to provide about another kid he knew that was in a similar situation and used Oak Hill to clean up his act. If Preston makes it to campus, we will have Oak Hill to thank



  • Bragg? I would imagine that the athletic dept. is fully engaged in researching CBā€™s psychological profile, attitude, and off-court activities and inclinations. I think he yet could be a contributor if he can get his head together and in the game. If his behavior is iffy I would send him packing.



  • @BShark I realize that we really are wishing hard to even think Duval would commit here but - -ALL Iā€™m going to ask on this about is - -just because this so called Duke insider says that KU is about to be officially out, so that makes it Gospel.Because this guy is a know all do all I get it right? lmao, now Iā€™m not trying to give you hell I fully understand - itā€™s more on the Duke insiders part I am ravin about ā€“ what the hell does he know, just because it is on the Duke 247 board which is but nothing but a bunch of Duke homers just like any other board roflmao ā€“ these guys kill me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @HighEliteMajor

    God I hope not.

    It will be hard to recruit guards again, and I canā€™t blame them for going elsewhere.



  • @jayballer54 for the last couple of weeks youā€™ve been saying that we all know Duvall is going to Duke. So why ? It now?



  • @drgnslayr

    Itā€™s not like high profile guards are lining up right now. A lot of misses in this class. The incoming players for the class as things stand are two transfers and a kid that was 100% to KU if KU wanted due to personal relationships (and to the credit of the staff they took him early). Looks to change in 18 and 19 (we will see) but I tend to believe KU will be generally fine recruiting as long as Self is here.



  • @Ralph you are absolutely correct - -still think he is, & IF youā€™ve been following along you can see that Iā€™m not by myself lol. but I find it funny that because A Duke insider says it so , then itā€™s Gospel - -I NEVER said what I was saying was Gospel - but thanks for noticing, Iā€™m not saying he is coming here not by any means, But then again how does this guy know that KU is out? - Iā€™ll continue to say it IS Duke, but hey if you find anything to the contrary be sure and shout out to me. ā€“ All I am pointing out is or wanting to know is - -where is this Duke insider is getting his solid recruiting report - what source - -let us all see it, so we can OFFICALLY count him out, officially say its over for him. - Agaiin I will continue to say like many many others that IS where he is going but we have nothing solid to prove that - so where is this guys solid proof that he is? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - -you gotta love it



  • That post sounds more negative than I meant I think. I just donā€™t think Self going back to running some high low will hurt that much.

    Anyway, some news: Jerrance will be checking in on Matt Hurt tonight. Good to see we are still recruiting him with some vigor.



  • @BShark

    It is just my opinion, but I think the hi/lo is dead as a standard offense. It is best used as a gimmick or a add-on to something elseā€¦ or just abandoned all together.

    Running 40 minutes of hi/lo will not keep us on the path we are on now. For example, I seriously doubt Josh would have come to Kansas to play the hi/lo.

    The last few years we have gone from a hybrid hi/lo to a complete abandonment of it.

    It is an offense that needs to move aside for the current times we live in. The current times are around opening up the trey line. Driving the ball in a motion offense and finishing at the rim or feeding for an open trey. That is the future of offense in the NBA and D1.

    And where are all of these big men who bring back-to-the-basket skills with them to Kansas?

    The 4out-1in still maintains scoring potential in the post, actually better since it is clogged with one less defensive big. Heck, we donā€™t have anyone now that can score with their back to the basket.

    I believe the hi/lo did us well back in the days. Now time has moved on, and so must our offensive strategy. It is important to keep the post mostly open so our guards can drive. In our traditional hi/lo we stuffed the post with 4 players, camping in the post. Our 2 bigs and our opponentā€™s 2 bigs. Not exactly good spacing for 3 guards to take it to the rim.

    Remember back when we ran true hi/lo. We pretty much limited guards driving to one guard only. And by the end of the year, we just perched 3 guards on the trey line and they threw the ball back and fourth quickly hoping a seam opened up.

    We canā€™t pull that kind of stunt now and continue to recruit high recruits (at any position).



  • @drgnslayr

    Canā€™t really disagree. I love the offense as it is currently constructed.

    What I was trying to get at earlier is that at this point I feel Self is pretty good at letting the roster dictate the situation. If the roster ends up being Mystery non-elite PG/Newman/Garrett/Vick/Cunliffe as the guards and Bragg/Preston/Coleby/Doke and the 9 guys that get run, I bet we see 3 guards 2 posts the majority of next season. One of the two posts on the floor will likely be pretty skilled though in Preston or Bragg. This assume Bragg gets it together and improves in the off season.



  • @jayballer54

    An exact quote for you re Duval

    ā€œHeā€™s not going to Baylor. Heā€™s not going to Kansas either.ā€

    From that Duke writer.



  • @BShark

    Sorryā€¦ I reread my last post and didnā€™t mean to be so snarky. Guess it shows how much I desire us to stay with a motion offense.



  • @drgnslayr

    No worries. It was frustrating to watch the old Self offense when it plodded and clogged.



  • After experiencing 4 excellent years with Frankā€¦ Iā€™m looking for a PG who has a background as a Navy SEAL or Elite Marine. It wouldnā€™t hurt if he was in the French Foreign Legion either.



  • https://twitter.com/KUTheShiver/status/836702680567382016

    Could loop that all day. Sooooo nasty.



  • @BeddieKU23

    I canā€™t claim to know what Devonte has indicated. But I imagine he has declared to testing the waters this spring, as well he should.

    Billā€™s plea is for Devonte if he sits on the fence after checking out his options. Iā€™m certain if he does test the waters he will have some temptation to go. That doesnā€™t mean he goes.



  • @BeddieKU23

    Poster on the phog says KU has called Hutch CC about Shakar Juiston. Could you imagine the cyclone salt if we come in and swoop him away?





  • Hurt dropped 47 tonight with KU watching. šŸ‘



  • @BShark His play reminds me of Brannen Green



  • @truehawk93 no D?



  • @Crimsonorblue22 He is a little heavy on O and didnā€™t see much D in this vid



  • @truehawk93

    Referring to Hurt?



  • @BShark

    Interesting, they would be salty as well as Seton Hall and others that have been in on him longer. Heā€™s skilled, can score on the block and rebound. Small though, Jamariā€™s sizeā€¦



  • @BShark

    Hurt is a good one. The Big-10 will be tough to beat for him but at least KU has really put in the leg work early.



  • @BShark

    Well looks like the Grimes to reclassify thing is deadā€¦

    Iā€™ve got a friend that knows his AAU coach pretty well. I asked about reclassification and the response was ā€œno chanceā€.



  • @BeddieKU23

    As usual Shay is clueless. Saw that post from Ryan as well. Also said Hamilton isnā€™t leaving NC.

    @BeddieKU23 said:

    @BShark

    Hurt is a good one. The Big-10 will be tough to beat for him but at least KU has really put in the leg work early.

    Well, we have done work in Minnesota before. ā˜ŗ

    @BeddieKU23 said:

    @BShark

    Interesting, they would be salty as well as Seton Hall and others that have been in on him longer. Heā€™s skilled, can score on the block and rebound. Small though, Jamariā€™s sizeā€¦

    I honestly think it would be a bad decision for the kid. KU likely has 5 post players already on the roster, whereas ISU has a black hole void for post minutes.



  • Self is going down to Hutch today. Guess we will find out how serious KUā€™s interest is pretty quickly.



  • Iā€™ve heard though, that Self really likes athletic 6ā€™7ā€™ā€™ power forwards. Heard he will play them over 5 starsā€¦ Just a rumour though. šŸ˜



  • @BShark

    Iā€™d take him if he looks at the KU offer seriously.

    With Hamilton, I donā€™t know how anyone can claim that will be the case this early. His coach is a die-hard KU fan and heā€™ll run for a team that Frank Mason was on. I do think our chances with him are much better then being adverstised



  • @BeddieKU23

    KU also had no chance at Doke according to Ryan soooooooo. And I get it, things change and he is just passing on info. But thatā€™s the point, things change. KU can at the very least offer and position themselves to be involved.



  • @BShark

    Exactly, our KU insiders have been wrong way too much lately to take much from them in their claims. The Grimes stuff I can believe



  • @BShark

    I recall our ā€œfailureā€ to land Doke. I was never convinced and felt we had him all along.

    But to be fair to the recruit people, sometimes players do change their minds at the last second.



  • @drgnslayr

    The thing about Doke is FSU essentially BROUGHT HIM OVER FROM AFRICA with the help of Nike iirc. So it was believed that he would show loyalty to if not FSU then at least Nike on some level. Getting him was pretty impressive, but of course Norm was the lead assistant on Doke. Never doubt Norm.

    No doubt Cal is already working on spinning this. He wouldnā€™t have been injured if he picked UK. šŸ˜œ



  • Speaking of Norm I believe he is running point on 7 foot BEAST Moses Brown.



  • @BShark

    Would not get that excited but Norm is a great recruiter so weā€™ll see



  • @BeddieKU23

    I think we know Grimes and Dotson are priority targets (hell Dotson visited KU this year, his jr year) but outside of those two, I think itā€™s a waiting game to see who KU is really in on.



  • @BShark

    Agreed!

    I will add I think weā€™ve seen enough of how KU recruits lately that we will chase some guys we probably have no point in chasing (Zion etc) because they are elites of their positions etc. It seems like we could be possibly all over the place recruiting bigs besides maybe the one known in Williams. Will be interesting to see if they shadow Gordon at all. I donā€™t know a tremendous amount about the 18 class outside the top kids weā€™ve mentioned already.



  • @BShark

    Sounds like some people have seen Juiston play and are impressed with him. The constant things I see being posted about him, High-Level rebounder, not a jump shooter, high character kid, good vision and can lead the fast break. Video seems to support all that as well



  • @BeddieKU23

    Sounds like a Bill Self dream. I found a couple twitter accounts that tweet about Hutch CC games. One tweet said a player for an opposing team was daring him to shoot wide open from 15 feet, so Iā€™d guess his range is less than that.

    @BeddieKU23 said:

    @BShark

    Agreed!

    I will add I think weā€™ve seen enough of how KU recruits lately that we will chase some guys we probably have no point in chasing (Zion etc) because they are elites of their positions etc. It seems like we could be possibly all over the place recruiting bigs besides maybe the one known in Williams. Will be interesting to see if they shadow Gordon at all. I donā€™t know a tremendous amount about the 18 class outside the top kids weā€™ve mentioned already.

    Sadly I agree.