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  Oubre Party!!
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  @HighEliteMajor 12 of 23 and 2 of the misses were from Manning and Self.
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  Let the Double Speak Continue...
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  @KansasComet Coach Self has indicated several time in the past that he normally likes to have a rotation of 7 or 8 players; he is not the only coach that feels this way, I have heard other coaches state the same thing. However, earlier this year Coach Self indicated that because of the available talent, he might extend the rotation to 9 or 10 players. Looks like he is doing just that.
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  BIA: Mickelson inserted into Allen Field House by classified Star Trek Transporter
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  @Crimsonorblue22 Yes. I obviously did not watch the game but I listened to the radio broadcast and sounded like Manning will be able to spell Mason and provided needed rest when the game is not too close that KU needs Mason in.
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  There are 6-year olds that have not witnessed a KU National Championship...
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  @Crimsonorblue22 Makes sense! I should have looked at the clouds
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  Coaches K and Donovan vs. Coaches Self and Cal
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  I don’t mind the talent stacking, honestly. Part of that is because I like watching elite players playing together, which is why I enjoy the NBA so much, particularly compared to college ball. I want to see top notch guys playing together instead of seeing top players so spread out that lesser teams just double and triple team the greats. Have you ever been to a high school game with only one elite player? Those games suck because most of the time the opposing team just sends double and triple teams at them and you end up in a sluggish game with no rhythm. I hate those games. I would much rather watch great players surrounded by other good and great players because then you have great teams. Look back at the teams we consider great. The Celtics of the 60s with Russell, Cousy, Jones, White, etc. 7 and 8 HOF on the roster at a time. The Showtime Lakers with Magic, Kareem, James Worthy, etc. The Bird, McHale, Parish Celtics, with Danny Ainge and Bill Walton and Dennis Johnson. Loaded teams are more fun to watch because great players can be incredible when you have to play them honest. Yeah, that may mean that only 15 or 20 teams in a given year are any good, but college basketball probably is at its best when there are a dozen or less teams on which the elite talent plays because that means E8 and F4 matchups that are absolutely epic. The kind of games you remember for years. The 08 F4 is special because you had 4 top notch teams with over 20 eventual pros matched up. Would it be as good if a Cinderella had made it instead? I doubt it. For my taste, give me a loaded Duke and UNC and KU, Texas, Kentucky, Florida, UCLA, Arizona and maybe a couple others and see how those games turn out in the tournament.
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  The Phog is a special place
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  @sfbahawk thanks for sharing! Another cool experience!
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  LAFAYETTE LEOPARDS - EASTON PA.
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  @BeddieKU23 I think the only reason Oubre didn’t start is because Greene played so well against G-Town, and he didn’t play his way out of the lineup against Utah. But, it’s simply a question of when- not if Oubre ends up in the starting lineup.
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  Starting line up for Lafayette
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  @wrwlumpy Mason–Given Selden–Given Greene–Bill knows offense is officially a problem Ellis–usual big game against a lesser opponent Cliff–time to see if he picks up two quick starting against a lesser opponent. Svi–continues to recede. Is it because he’s already shown he can play and Self is trying to bring Greene up to speed? Or is there something going on behind the scenes? The historical tendency is injury, when guys that have shown they can play suddenly stop playing. Oubre/Jamari–going to be interesting which one plays where, when.
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  KUBUCKETS RULES!!!!
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  @jaybate-1.0 Thank you for the kind words. Can’t claim truth that has always been the case before the odometer rolled over a few times. We learn as we go & hopefully are better people because of, or in some instances, even in spite of it all. Merry Christmas @jaybate 1.0. Whomever your Saviour, may he joyfully lift your spirit and soul.
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  Don't find fault, find a remedy.--Henry Ford
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  The man who will use his skill and constructive imagination to see how much he can give for a dollar, instead of how little he can give for a dollar, is bound to succeed. –Henry Ford
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  Wiggins Rookie of the Year, but not this way.
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  @DoubleDD When I was young we only had one toy…it was called OUTSIDE Now, with all the video games, less and less kids are playing outside and they sit inside playing those mind-numbing games or playing with their iPads/tablets and physical activity is restricted to those with parents that encourage some type of safe, organized sport. Soccer is considered a fairly safe sport and thus it is growing the fastest.
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  jBIA MEMO: Undercover Recon Completed...
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  @sfboggsz HOOYAH !!
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  Be Honest
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  @DoubleDD Be Honest. Always. I like this team, just like I do every Kansas Jayhawk Team. I appreciate the fact that the pressure is off this year’s team and they could possibly fly under the radar. I wish we had a little more height. One 7 footer would have been nice. I think this team can have a successful year. I like that this year’s team has players that are not afraid to step up and take the big shot. Since we are being totally honest, that has not always been the case. It has never been “win or else” with me. I don’t like late game meltdowns, but that’s the way it goes sometimes. I have to take the bad with the good. We were not the best team in 1988, but we were Champions. We were the best team in 1997, but we didn’t win it all. I like to state my business and move on. Losses that end the season hurt, but it is not a permanent hurt. I respect that fact that other teams want to win as bad as we do. It’s not our birthright to go to the Final Four every season. I appreciate every win, and try to move on quickly after a loss. The Program does not die with a loss. Kansas is one of the few schools where losses are celebrated with court rushing from our opponents, and we don’t even have to be ranked in the top 10 for that to happen. Kansas is where basketball stops and ends with me. Proud to be a Jayhawk!
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  TRob, getting a chance
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  @joeloveshawks Glad you relayed the phactoid about Phil. Phil knows Dennis. But I will tell you this: Daly brought Rod along slowly and quietly early on in Detroit, so Thomas is not really that far behind Rodman’s curve. And if both guys went up for a rebound, and got to the ball at the same time, compare arms and shoulders and tell me Thomas would not rip the ball and Rod’s arms out of the sockets in a tug of war 36-40 inches above the wood. Next, neither guy would get a single board against Wilt in a one on one,50 attempt rebounding contest. And they might only get one out of 50 against Big Russ. Rod was the best 6-7 rebounder I ever saw. Bill Bridges was the best 6-5 rebounder I ever saw. And Bridges did it with two bad knees before they knew how to do surgeries. Bridges was a beast.
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  Is Self too worried about Mason's minutes?
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  @HighEliteMajor You make very valid points but it is also a catch 22 situation. Mason is still learning the system and we still see him make bonehead plays and the best way to learn the system is to play more. So, you want him to play as much as possible so he can become more familiar with the system while at the same time you want him to play less to conserve energy. I am not convinced that Svi is the answer. The game is still playing very fast for him and has not slowed down and thus we have seen reduced playing time. At the PG, the game would be even faster and I am not sure he is, at this point, at a level where he could handle it; he is not a natural PG and his natural position, at least in college, is SG or even SF; in the NBA he will likely be a combo like Hinrich or like Chalmers become a PG. No doubt that he has the natural skills and basketball IQ to adapt to the position but again, do you take a hit at that position while he learns to play it? I am sure he would do fine at the slower Euro pace, but at the faster American pace, he would be, at least initially, at a disadvantage. Just my 2 cents…
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  On Genius in Basketball and Bill Self
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  Thx all.
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  Jamari Traylor ---->combo guard
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  Locking this thread [I think] for everyone’s benefit so we can move our blown minds on from thinking about Jamari playing point. Please see http://www.kubuckets.com/topic/1636/kubuckets-rules. Thanks guys.
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  jBIA (for OBO): Mickelson rumored working out at point guard...
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  @drgnslayr Not college but NBA. This link has the average player height for NBA players fro a number of years.
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  Dateline Khe Sanh: Self Says Again that Jamari Is a Combo Guard Option
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  @jaybate-1.0 Perfect length! Great post!
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  Now Hear this: Self Ahead of Everyone As Usual
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  @HighEliteMajor Thanks HEM for that teaching moment. Im a sponge and I rely on you more experienced fellows for teaching. Thanks.