@FarmerJayhawk He would get healthier sooner and Bill would automatically start him
Posts made by kuballin10
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RE: Recruiting Notes
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@FarmerJayhawk Give me William’s - doesn’t seem like Stokes is reclassifying
Your comment on KJ and the 5/5 has me worried because that is the last thing we need is another year of KJ starting in mid-February
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RE: The portal.
@FarmerJayhawk When is KJ predicted to be healthy? Sometimes elite athletes like him heal quicker and if he came back I could see some idiotic stuff lineup wise take place
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RE: Recruiting Notes
Sounds like Stokes is 2026 still
Williams we want but will be out of his price range….hed be perfect here
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@BShark If he lands Stokes yes - if not what exactly is he on then? We just meaning he’s going all out as best as he can?
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@FarmerJayhawk said in Recruiting Notes:
I wonder if they’d pull the ole switcheroo. If we get Stokes there’s a non-zero chance Tre White would look elsewhere. So that would give us some extra scratch to pursue maybe a better fit at the 3. We could definitely make White and Stokes work but the fit isn’t amazing. Both in the low 30% from 3 range. We might need a more knockdown guy who isn’t scared to shoot it, but he could be a Coward.
If we landed Stokes and Coward but lost Tre no one would care that would be insane!
Not sure Stokes reclassifies but least he is letting us make a legit run at him
I think we only get Coward if Stokes doesn’t commit and even then not sure we land him
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RE: The portal.
@DCHawker You know I’d be the first to agree regarding scouting guys but the issue is more the system
Will be another good year to compare transfers and how they pan out council vs Lee
I think the staff is adjusting and I think Council is eerily similar to Tyshawn. He’s the better get for Self’s system so I’m happy with it. Good defender - produces turnovers and more athletic. His 3 ball looks like Tyshawn’s and he doesn’t shy away from the big moment.
@FarmerJayhawk @BShark What’s the starting lineup looking like
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RE: The portal.
Rumors we got Council and passed on Lee
I’m good with that - Council is the superior athlete
He, DP, Dawson, White and Flory is a solid 5 Self should roll out there but I’m sure we get another big and he finds a way to play two lumbering bigs who can’t shoot outside of 5 feet
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RE: The portal.
Better be - dudes a stud….
Council, Coward and an athletic backup big
Reload and let DP handle the ball at point every possession
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RE: The portal.
@BShark said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
The perfect wing. He and Tre at the 3/4 would straight up bully everyone
My new top choice personally
He or RJ???
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RE: Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players
@BShark said in Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players:
@BShark said in Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players:
This thread might be embarrassing soon
Look at this dummy
Self deprecation/humility is a sign of maturity Many people can never admit they are wrong
I hope to be wrong on Bill this upcoming year!
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
DP, Flory, Tre and Dawson plus hopefully a still athletic Elmarko……so far looking good!
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@bskeet Better locker room/culture will be key
Both from players but also from the staff. Staff needs to look in the mirror as my favorite movie says - “attitude reflects leadership….captain”
The other name you haven’t mentioned…do you like him more or less than Flory?
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RE: NCAA Tournament Discussion
May landing Yaxel
McLasland
McCollum
I think all 3 potentially better than Oats and on par with Golden
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RE: NCAA Tournament Discussion
@FarmerJayhawk said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
I respect the hell out of Sampson
Guy’s who got in trouble for getting caught paying players I don’t care about anymore. If you can coach and aren’t a woman beater/predator than by all means who cares about $$$ 10-20 years ago.
Everyone paid players
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
What do we think of Tre White? More I’m digging the less I like it especially hearing he cost a decent penny….
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
Flory seemed like a great kid so I’m all for it
Crazy since he’s moved out of campus right? If he fails classes how on earth does that work?
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
@approxinfinity would be ecstatic and I think we’d both do a little reversal on next year
Flory’s athleticism and ability to protect the rim is what we need at the 5
Pair that with DP and White’s length defensively and we are good
Assuming White plays the 3 and Self looks for another big in the portal so he can play his two bigs
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RE: The portal.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
@RockkChalkk said in The portal.:
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk DaJuan caliber defender?
Hope not! Need way better.
Than a guy who was a 3x all-conference defender and a former conference DPOY? I’d take level of defender any day and twice on Sunday, but apparently that’s not good enough for you.
Wasn’t good enough to get out of the round of 32 or 64 in back to back years with the most senior laden team
He was so bad Diggy came and we stormed back
Coaches voting D2 as some incredible defender is exactly what I’d done to as Self keeps running him out there telling everyone how incredible he is
Onto DP and the miracles due to all these transfers talking so much regarding what happened this year
After the sweet 16 2026 exit everyone will be beyond ready for Oats or Golden ***please bookmark this
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RE: Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players
@BShark That’s not a good allocation of resources if White is fairly expensive. 30 other guys I’d rather have than him at similar or $100k more in cost
Adding: Guys been to 4 schools in 4 years and sounds identical to aj storr. TOS had a guy that went to Illini games and said the dude struggled with effort consistently
He should play the 4 based on his lack of offense but we won’t put him there. Sounds like we are running it back with just different names at the 3 spot
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RE: Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players
@approxinfinity said in Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players:
Everyone who thinks Flory is a $3 million dollar player is betting against Bill and staff’s assessment of talent. Given the last 3 years, can you blame them?
Dang this sounds like something I would have said lol I’m wearing off on you and that’s not good! Only enough room for 3-4 negative guys not the owner of the site too now!
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RE: The portal.
History and tradition are things kids could care less about now - sad but a true reality
They want $ and a system to best prepare them for playing at the next level
We have the $ but hearing that’s drying up
The system we are currently lacking and no doubt negative recruiting is hurting us right now
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RE: Quest for the Postseason
Squad is cooking - hitting bombs with decent college pitching
Half of baseball is believing in your team. A few timely hits and you can win games you have no business winning!
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RE: The portal.
@BShark Win a title and I’d bet that isn’t the case!
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@BShark shoot I’ve copied and pasted from guys/gals over there before. I’ve taken some time off because it was such a disaster most of us saw coming post January
I want to know about more to the Utah story that’s been hinted at. What’s the down low on that because I know what was leaked about D2 being the “peacemaker” is comical knowing the squad and how things played out
That clearly is the KU staff feeding people…I want Mayo and co’s perspective and this “you’ll never believe it” crap that the dude has mentioned
Coaching wise I 100% agree with the three M’s the guy has stayed and have put that down here similarly….so see where you’d think that
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RE: Transfer Rumblings
@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
Heard a destination for Diggy could be Bama. Which is wild
His game suits them better and I bet he’s utilized better
Chuck more three’s, play matador defense and let whatever big athletic 4&5 man stuff guys at the rim
Works when you have big time athletes protecting the paint so guards can be more aggressive
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RE: The portal.
@BShark Self may have made the official “hey guys it’s cancelled” decision but that’s because half the team has checked out of classes and is done. No one was sticking around for that….there were only 3-4 guys on the roster (that played) that respected Self and likewise Self to them (he didn’t respect many from the jump)
I’m curious what people have seen in these last 24 months that make you want to have Self around next year
The only reason I’d keep him is for DP but if it got out DP would come if Oats or Golden accepted the job then Self can exit stage left for the betterment of the program which per his words no coach is bigger than. He did well during his time here but it’s time to step aside
When you don’t play the best players, never attempt 4 guards in a legitimate game except once and then it works but you create some ridiculous reason how we were “so bad defensively” - what a freaking crock so he can keep playing “his guys”. If Self is some defensive genius he should have figured out a way to teach the 4 guard lineup to defend
He’s always done this but as others have said the players having equal leverage with the coaches has exposed it
Storr and Griffin came here after being at big P5 schools NOT THE MID MAJOR EXCUSE — and they digressed horribly
It not the players it’s the coach, his system and how he treated the guys
Issue is he always latches onto a lower level guy who he favors over the higher ceiling guys. Morningstar, Reed, traylor, kj, d2….
That’s why I know he can’t fix this, won’t change his ways and we are wasting years “letting Self go out on his own terms”. I mean fine if you want to watch the house burn down standing inside so be it
Indiana and UCLA here we come! Heck we are letting guys come here for a year and then play in their prime for IU and a coach who without his best player and another injured best Self’s “boys” in AFH
Looking forward to playing a round with Self when he’s retired, looking him squarely in the eyes and asking WTH were you seeing/thinking because it clearly didn’t work!
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@BShark I read there and don’t post but agree with just about everything he and quite a few others are saying
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@BShark Who on earth is saying this? DP decomitting would be a disaster
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@BShark said in Recruiting Notes:
Bossi just told ballin10 to eff himself on 247 woweee
There’s that positivity you were preaching in the other thread you started….oh wait no - no it’s not but hey pot meet kettle brother!
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@BShark DP is a dog and we NEED him here
He commented in public but what’s he going to say….yeah Wade and co are recruiting me hard? He wouldn’t do that
You’ve heard it and so have I….its evident what’s going on
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RE: The portal.
@CasterTroy Shocking - didn’t see that one coming!!!
Bama buddy coming in clutch mid season
Man the turmoil this season was insane all because Self said he wanted the big 3 to be who everything ran through
What a incorrect view of their talent
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RE: The portal.
@kjayhawks From what I’ve read that didn’t happen until his minutes got cut after he dominated the stretch filling in for KJ.
The argument from KU’s side is he is all about the money but that doesn’t add up with the timeline to start shopping mid season. The minute cut and how he was handled by Self is what spurred them to say, “screw it let’s go get minutes so Flory can flourish and grab the bag”
If Flory had been playing and was happy here - you know it would have been “hey KU just bump his pay and let’s get this done” - instead it’s screw you for sitting Flory an nba talent behind kj after Flory proved it with double doubles and not fouling out - we are done and going elsewhere
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@BShark said in Recruiting Notes:
Realistically, KU needs some portal commitments this week but that could be hard to make happen.
TOS 247 - guy over there saying he played aau ball and is connected in those circles still with former teammates as coaches ect
Says the third team isn’t even out there yet and happening behind the scenes. Self and staff would have no clue
Nc state hiring his coach so they are in it then him wanting to play with flory thus Iu rumors (plus they are adidas) ……and this mystery 3rd team whose name somehow hasn’t gotten out there yet publicly but is in some tight circles
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@TYOHawk Haha 6-3 190 lb at best a Baker or William Jewel product - D2 would have destroyed me in 1 on 1 lol
Guys don’t sign overnight - roster will fill out but the Flory and Diggy news plus others exiting is confirmation of what many could see
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RE: Recruiting Notes
@TYOHawk said in Recruiting Notes:
I’m very comfortable saying Self won’t be outbid for him and especially by NC State.
If he’s still here in 30 days……
NC State isn’t the biggest player - two others I’ve read
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RE: Swirling Bill Rumors
@TYOHawk said in Swirling Bill Rumors:
@BShark said in Swirling Bill Rumors:
@TYOHawk said in Swirling Bill Rumors:
FWIW I’ve heard as long as Coach Self is here…Darryn will be here.
This is pretty much the deal.
Glad you’re hearing what I’m hearing on this.
Like I said Shark is my brother…but I’d just give Coach some time man. This has been a SEASON. I can’t imagine how taxing emotionally it was on the players and the staff…hell we feel it as a fanbase.
I think the issue is he isn’t even bothering to think he did anything wrong. He still thinks the trio was his best options. Never 4 guards but instead play 3 five men
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RE: Swirling Bill Rumors
@kjayhawks said in Swirling Bill Rumors:
My inside sources tells me Will Wade and NC state are hot on DP to flip to them. If that happens I’m hearing Self will announce his retirement. Lots of stuff going around right now in the rumor mill
Been hearing this when the “trip” for sr night by Townsend took place but no one believed me……
With our two year downfall and internal turmoil plus not playing the best players - I mean as a parent I wouldn’t want my kid to walk into that situation for 1 year
That’s why I wanted him to retire because he isn’t cutout for this anymore and it’s really evident
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RE: Swirling Bill Rumors
@kjayhawks said in Swirling Bill Rumors:
It would definitely make for interesting times in Lawrence. I was hoping he would get to assemble this team for next season and retire after a conference championship and deep tournament run.
I’d love for he, DP (transcendent talent), Flory and some good transfers to go out win the big 12 and at least make the final 4 heck pull a Melo win it all!
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RE: Swirling Bill Rumors
@BShark said in Swirling Bill Rumors:
@Kcmatt7 Yeah I think only complete bozos are actually rooting for him to leave.
Putting his sons above the program in any business would be fireable
He’s the greatest KU coach of all time so he gets a pass but ignoring what he’s done these last two years is pretty insane
We can match IU’s offer so claiming Flory is all about the $$$ is completely ignoring all the signs that took place this year regarding his playing time
NBA talent sits behind g league or overseas player….that plus Bill’s style of play doesnt “attract” top talent. What attracts top talent is Adida$
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RE: Swirling Bill Rumors
@dylans said in Swirling Bill Rumors:
Yikes on the prospective list, say it isn’t so Bill!
Golden - sent pics of his junk to a co-ed
Oats - players facilitated a murder
Beard - wife beater.
All very good coaches, but of very questionable character. Would prefer a better person help to lead the young players into adulthood.
Is Brad Steven’s really not an option?!? lol I know. I know…
I’ve been saying that McLasland would really take over and be a class act
May is good along with McCollum but I understand he’s unproven and his style isn’t exactly great
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RE: The portal.
@Jhawk69 Favoritism to the detriment of the program - was told I’m insane
Self’s presser mentioning his sons proved that
The blowup in Utah….
Us looking great in November when guys had freedom and then it’s stripped away
Sucks to watch us become Indiana or UCLA but Grandpa Bill needs to give the car keys over to the next generation - he’s legitimately unable to adjust his style of play
Oh and DP isn’t nearly this rock-solid commitment especially after today’s disaster
Better hope Flory ends up back at KU because word on the street is DP doesn’t want to play for a “1 year away from a title KU team”
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RE: What does “faith in Bill” mean?
Coaches are allowed to leverage university’s for more money but how dare the players do it
Had the roster not been so poorly mismanaged this year - we might not be in this predicament
But many here will never ever think it is Self or KU’s fault ….literally ever
Head meet sand
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RE: The portal.
@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
Well I rode with Coach till the cows came home-- well they are all in the barn now so-- Now I think it’s time Bill needs to go. This past season was a Costly one for sure, looks like we gonna be a bottom dweller if not careful. Cupboard is BARE
Dang what a 180! Welcome to the your head is above the sand club!
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RE: The portal.
@Jhawk69 I’ve been proven right for two years so not sure how you feel about that but glad we agree on flory
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RE: What does “faith in Bill” mean?
@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
It’s time
Dang from you even…wooffff
Flory thing did you in…just wait until DP flips last minute and @FarmerJayhawk can’t believe it
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RE: The portal.
You guys hate me that’s fine
Culture is really bad - let’s examine from the outside
Flory plays awesome against Duke final 10 minutes and when he starts puts up great numbers (Houston game)
Relegated to the bench and zeke likes a post about flory playing/starting more online
We have top nil, “goat” coach (eye roll) and starting 5 spot guaranteed to him
He’s leaving because he wasn’t developed, favoritism, culture/unfair treatment and style of play
Homers will say oh his handlers….thats an excuse from jaded fans
DP says he’s most excited to play with Flory…Flory just entered the portal. Will Wade and MANY others still taking shots at DP but yeah Townsend was completely normal. Eventually you guys will look back and be like oh heck kuballin wasn’t full of crap and saw things for how they actually were
Bama buddy texted me today, “A lot of chaos in Lawrence - we scored 113 and I know for a fact contact was made to DP’s people but he seems full fledged Adidas. Not sure if he ends up in Lawrence though hearing a ton of rumblings that aren’t good and center around how ya’ll play plus rotations this year. I know dudes are gone but it’s a real bad look”
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RE: The portal.
@TYOHawk Just need some leniency from Self on letting these guys mess up on D because offensively we should have all sorts of space to operate
Hall is bad defensively but he does rebound