Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19
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@BShark I’m just sitting here having a cold beer and a good laugh. This site is half my entertainment right now.
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Curious if anyone knows what Trump means by “Liberate Michigan,” “Liberate Virginia, and save your great 2nd amendment. It is under siege!” and “Liberate Minnesota!” I’m trying to keep an open mind but I guess I don’t get the context or message being sent here?
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NOT GREAT, BOB https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1251217169259479041?s=21
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
NOT GREAT, BOB https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1251217169259479041?s=21
We don’t know what that means yet. Its scary but I’m going to hope for the best and plan for the worst. #wfh4eva
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Curious if anyone knows what Trump means by “Liberate Michigan,” “Liberate Virginia, and save your great 2nd amendment. It is under siege!” and “Liberate Minnesota!” I’m trying to keep an open mind but I guess I don’t get the context or message being sent here?
Somewhere between idiotic and revolutionary / treasonous.
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@approxinfinity I just can’t figure out what it even means. Like, there are only so many definitions and connotations for the word “liberate.” Is he saying those states need to open now? Is he saying they need to remove their governors? It’s just so unclear to me that I was hoping someone who thinks differently than me could give me a hand in figuring it out.
And does Virginia have some amendment undoing the 2nd amendment that I haven’t heard about?
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He’s talking about the 2nd amendment in Virginia because of the recent gun rally in Richmond, playing to fears of his base that the Democratic state congress and democratic governor are going to take away their guns. Never miss an opportunity to incite your gun-toting base in the middle of a pandemic. You can see where his head is.
When Gov Northam gets shot because some idiot heard something different maybe we can finally acknowledge that Trump is a disaster.
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@kjayhawks said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@BShark I’m just sitting here having a cold beer and a good laugh. This site is half my entertainment right now.
Dam BB Buddy Ol Jayballer could use a nice Ice cold one on this Friday lol
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@jayballer73 happy Friday! We made it!
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 happy Friday! We made it!
Lol , that we did. But dam kinda Parched & friends kicking back suckin suds and poor Ol Jayballer doesn’t have a SINGLE one in the house lol.
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@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 happy Friday! We made it!
Lol , that we did. But dam kinda Parched & friends kicking back suckin suds and poor Ol Jayballer doesn’t have a SINGLE one in the house lol.
Lol. I’m down to 2 year old holiday beer. I guess that’s marginally better.
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@approxinfinity @jayballer73 I have some random ciders and beers folks left in my fridge from when people were still allowed to come over. Not much good though. Have to break into the whisky.
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 happy Friday! We made it!
Lol , that we did. But dam kinda Parched & friends kicking back suckin suds and poor Ol Jayballer doesn’t have a SINGLE one in the house lol.
Lol. I’m down to 2 year old holiday beer. I guess that’s marginally better.
lmao well HEY, at least two year old holiday beer is better then no beer right? – well umm I think it is - – isn’t it? lol - HEY I do have a shooter of sim-fire Cinnamon whiskey roflmao - -desperate times - - desperate measures
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@approxinfinity @jayballer73 I have some random ciders and beers folks left in my fridge from when people were still allowed to come over. Not much good though. Have to break into the whisky.
Hell I’ll just run across the street to my neighbor buddy’s and get some of that moonshine - - that will kill ALL my worries lmao
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@jayballer73 6 feet man, 6 feet!
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 6 feet man, 6 feet!
roflmao - - -that’s crazy that made me laugh really hard. – HEY desperate - Desperate lol lmao - you a nutt
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Yeah, I heard moonshine kills the coronavirus!
(Note: All fiction. No malice.)
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Luckily my bottle shop started delivery service so the brewskies are still around at my place!
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@bskeet Tito’s vodka had to put out a statement telling people their vodka didn’t!
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@benshawks08 aren’t these the states protesting today or yesterday?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yes. That is clearly the connection (along with democratic governors). But I still don’t get how yesterday it’s up to the governors to decide how and when to open their states and today it’s “liberate michigan” or whatever. Unless he means something else, which is what I’m trying to understand. I’m not trying to make a point, just trying to understand. There are so many things I don’t understand and never will, this might just have to get added to the list.
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Just his states, he’s trying to prove it. SOS!
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He’s not backing the governors. Again, SOS
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Um… no. https://twitter.com/williegeist/status/1251485550533578752?s=21
I couldn’t agree, Moore!
Stephen Moore on child labor: “I’m a radical on this; I’d get rid of a lot of these child labor laws. I want people starting to work at 11, 12"
Stephen Moore on climate change: “the biggest scam of the last two decades.”
Stephen Moore on women: “Is there no area in life where men can take vacation from women? What’s next? Women invited to bachelor parties? Women in combat? (Oh yeah, they’ve done that already.)"
We’ve got a real winner!
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@bskeet said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Yeah, I heard moonshine kills the coronavirus!
(Note: All fiction. No malice.)
hell not for sure, after a couple of chugs I’m feel dead lol - -white lightning lmao - that stuff will knock your you know what in the dirt lol
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@approxinfinity I’d like Stephen to bear a child!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@approxinfinity I’d like Stephen to bear a child!
Please do not encourage the passing on of any more idiocy genes!
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Here’s another article (behind paywall, but just to reiterate my point). If you have kidney issues, please consider that coronavirus can contribute to kidney failure and be extra cautious
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/kidney-dialysis-coronavirus.html
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You guys that live in Kc, I hear tmrw they are going to protest to open their businesses, wondered what you think. I know cases are still going up, deaths too, still no tests. I guess the judge ruled the churches can go to church tmrw.
just can’t understand that when there is an option. My pastor would never do anything to harm us!
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@Crimsonorblue22 the amount of people that don’t even go to church complaining about it is astronomical.
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@kjayhawks well they probably don’t won’t them to infect them. Pretty crappy that we are all following the rules to keep our families and friends safe and they could stream their services. Not the God I know!
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It’s amazing how short our attention spans are. We are lemmings.
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Bishop Glenn held a church service on March 22 despite warnings about social distancing. During the sermon, he preached about not being afraid of death, telling the congregation, “I firmly believe that God is larger than this dreaded virus,” according to CBS affiliate WTVR
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yep that’s what our church is doing, not that complicated in 2020 to stream live via Facebook or YouTube.
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@approxinfinity makes people that aren’t Christians think that all of us that are, are like that.
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Mortality rates on this disease are still way high. Almost certainly inflated by lack of tests, so people counted are badly sick…
However, the expected mortality rate is 2% on the disease, but currently in the states, its:
8% in NY - 19.4k dead / 242.5k cases
5.4% nationwide - 41.4 kdead / 746.4 cases
4.4% nationwide without NY - 22k / 503.8 cases
Showing how important it is that our healthcare system does not get overwhelmed like NY, but also, alarmingly high. Lets watch this number and see it go down as testing becomes more prevalent.
But this should be a wake up call to anyone thinking that we’re even close to opening everything back up. We need
- that mortality rate closer to the ballpark of the flu if possible, .1%, or 54x less deaths per cases than present.
- Readily available testing everywhere. This is not optional.
- Social distancing policies in place. eased, but still in place. This includes manditory N95 masks readily available to everyone to always be worn in public
- Contact tracing in place for all active cases
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Dam , this was not a good day for new cases in Kansas - - positive cases rose by 137 cases & we had 8 pass away yesterday. - Total deaths now at 100 & total number of cases at 1,986. - hang tough my friends , there has GOT TO BE an end to this soon. STAY STRONG AND BELEIVE
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And Kansas is still dead last in testing/100,000. Not ideal.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
And Kansas is still dead last in testing/100,000. Not ideal.
guess they supposedly got more test kits over the weekend
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I think the tricky thing is that people have to remember that whatever is happening today is a reflection of behaviors from 2 weeks ago.
That kind of latency is extraordinary in a world where cause and effect are often much tighter. Makes it hard to factor into our assessments.
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@FarmerJayhawk we got tests. They were for the meat packing plants
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Ok, fact or opinion? Is trump actually taking hudroxochlorine (I know I spelled that wrong…)?
If so, why?
If not, why lie about it?
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@benshawks08 I say lie! With his health problems, placque, no dr would prescribe it w/out being worried about his license. After listening to numerous Drs, I haven’t heard any that would prescribe it to anyone w/cardiac problems.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Ok, fact or opinion? Is trump actually taking hudroxochlorine (I know I spelled that wrong…)?
If so, why?
If not, why lie about it?
The memo from his doc is about as vague as could be, and never said he was actually taking it or in what form. Everyone in MAGA land is so invested in hcq and it’s very bizarre.
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Well, I for one believe, as always, that we should be able to hope we can trust in the credibilty of the leader of the free world.
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@mayjay well I for one, as always, wish in one hand and hope we can trust in the credibilty of the leader of the free world in the other, and see which one fills up first.
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I for one, lol, after being lied to so many times, have trust issues. I also believe in science and trusted Dr’s.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Well, I for one totally agree with Crim. When I was little, my parents didn’t tolerate lying and name calling - two trademark habits of his in which he seems to take pride and his supporters relish.
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I think I said that wrong.
Reboot!
Well I, for one, hope we can trust in the credibility of the leader of the free world in one hand, and crap in the other, and see which one fills up first.
