Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19
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@bskeet Stuff like this is what really frustrates me about Trump calling CNN, NY Times, and other news outlets he doesn’t like, “Fake News.” It totally muddles the media landscape and gets in the way of identifying truly FAKE news sources that target folks based on their internet activity. Fake News is such a huge problem, just not at all in the way Trump rages on about. There is a huge difference between protecting a source by keeping them anonymous and making up sources, quotes, and content out of the blue to play on people’s biases.
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@benshawks08 @bskeet And it is even more frustrating that the most vociferous denouncers of “fake news” are the FOX watchers who disseminate shit like this with nary a critical thought in their bodies.
Incidentally, the “block” button in this site is simply awesome!
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@mayjay I’m trying not to create my own dangerous little bubble where I only read stuff I agree with but it is a lot of work sometimes.
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@benshawks08 I read all types of stuff I don’t agree with. George Will is one of my favorite authors. I almost always read every column by right wingers printed in my paper. I read lots of stories about Lindsey Graham, even Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, including articles they author.
But there are a couple of people here who just bitch and moan and attack, and add less than nothing to discourse. Why bother?
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 This is an example of FAKE NEWS. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pelosi-ss-leeches/
That quote is completely made up.
Says who? Democrat side of the political party? - -how do you know what you are pulling up is not fake it’self. - just because the article YOU pulled up says different? - -so that makes it fake? - - Nope - -not happening - Just because you found something that says otherwise? - -how do I know that IT is true = = because it shows different then what I posted ? - -that makes it true ? - -OH OK gotcha
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@bskeet Stuff like this is what really frustrates me about Trump calling CNN, NY Times, and other news outlets he doesn’t like, “Fake News.” It totally muddles the media landscape and gets in the way of identifying truly FAKE news sources that target folks based on their internet activity. Fake News is such a huge problem, just not at all in the way Trump rages on about. There is a huge difference between protecting a source by keeping them anonymous and making up sources, quotes, and content out of the blue to play on people’s biases.
understand - you mean like the things other Media says that Trump talks about. - -ONE vicious circle huh - -the old he said - - she said. - -maybe we just don’t listen to anything - - anyone ya that’s beter
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@mayjay said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 @bskeet And it is even more frustrating that the most vociferous denouncers of “fake news” are the FOX watchers who disseminate shit like this with nary a critical thought in their bodies.
Incidentally, the “block” button in this site is simply awesome!
show me where the block buton is here I’ll be more then happy to block buton should be fun
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@jayballer73 Hit me with a link then, friend. I did some searching on the quote and the content and everything I find says it’s a fake story from a while ago that has resurfaced for some reason now. The original came from a site that begins with “Everything on this website is fiction. It is not a lie and it is not fake news because it is not real. If you believe that it is real, you should have your head examined. Any similarities between this site’s pure fantasy and actual people, places, and events are purely coincidental and all images should be considered altered and satirical. See above if you’re still having an issue with that satire thing.” http://archive.vn/UXjQS#selection-231.0-231.407
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Hit me with a link then, friend. I did some searching on the quote and the content and everything I find says it’s a fake story from a while ago that has resurfaced for some reason now. The original came from a site that begins with “Everything on this website is fiction. It is not a lie and it is not fake news because it is not real. If you believe that it is real, you should have your head examined. Any similarities between this site’s pure fantasy and actual people, places, and events are purely coincidental and all images should be considered altered and satirical. See above if you’re still having an issue with that satire thing.” http://archive.vn/UXjQS#selection-231.0-231.407
appreciate the offer but to many fake things/people so I’m trying to find the block button Mayjay so generously offered have a great day but wait maybe I was being fake when I said that lmao - - OH well
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@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@bskeet Stuff like this is what really frustrates me about Trump calling CNN, NY Times, and other news outlets he doesn’t like, “Fake News.” It totally muddles the media landscape and gets in the way of identifying truly FAKE news sources that target folks based on their internet activity. Fake News is such a huge problem, just not at all in the way Trump rages on about. There is a huge difference between protecting a source by keeping them anonymous and making up sources, quotes, and content out of the blue to play on people’s biases.
understand - you mean like the things other Media says that Trump talks about. - -ONE vicious circle huh - -the old he said - - she said. - -maybe we just don’t listen to anything - - anyone ya that’s beter
That’s exactly what I don’t want the world to come to. I want there to be a free and reliable press that gets their stories from sources and verifies truth before posting. No one will ever do this perfectly but there are some that try, and others whose goal is to make stuff up. Gotta be able to tell the difference.
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@jayballer73 Are you blocking me? For pointing out your story was false and based on a satirical post? You realize I’m not attacking you, right? Just the content of your post.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@bskeet Stuff like this is what really frustrates me about Trump calling CNN, NY Times, and other news outlets he doesn’t like, “Fake News.” It totally muddles the media landscape and gets in the way of identifying truly FAKE news sources that target folks based on their internet activity. Fake News is such a huge problem, just not at all in the way Trump rages on about. There is a huge difference between protecting a source by keeping them anonymous and making up sources, quotes, and content out of the blue to play on people’s biases.
understand - you mean like the things other Media says that Trump talks about. - -ONE vicious circle huh - -the old he said - - she said. - -maybe we just don’t listen to anything - - anyone ya that’s beter
That’s exactly what I don’t want the world to come to. I want there to be a free and reliable press that gets their stories from sources and verifies truth before posting. No one will ever do this perfectly but there are some that try, and others whose goal is to make stuff up. Gotta be able to tell the difference.
ya well you let me know when you find a media source that does that - - Good Luck
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Are you blocking me? For pointing out your story was false and based on a satirical post? You realize I’m not attacking you, right? Just the content of your post.
I’m not sure it is fake - -again maybe we better just not read anything – watch anything listen to anything, that way we KNOW we are safe
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@jayballer73 Most major media outlets do this. There has been some movement toward the old “better to be first than right” mantra, but for the most part reporting from the big boys is reliable. Slanted, sure. Biased, probably. But rarely completely made up and based on no sources whatsoever.
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@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Are you blocking me? For pointing out your story was false and based on a satirical post? You realize I’m not attacking you, right? Just the content of your post.
I’m not sure it is fake - -again maybe we better just not read anything – watch anything listen to anything, that way we KNOW we are safe
It definitely is. But thanks for trolling.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Are you blocking me? For pointing out your story was false and based on a satirical post? You realize I’m not attacking you, right? Just the content of your post.
I’m not sure it is fake - -again maybe we better just not read anything – watch anything listen to anything, that way we KNOW we are safe
It definitely is. But thanks for trolling.
ahhh there it is , NOW we are into the name calling – I knew you had it in you so now I’m a "Troll " - - Nice, and very Mature too , ok like I said before have a great day
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@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Are you blocking me? For pointing out your story was false and based on a satirical post? You realize I’m not attacking you, right? Just the content of your post.
I’m not sure it is fake - -again maybe we better just not read anything – watch anything listen to anything, that way we KNOW we are safe
It definitely is. But thanks for trolling.
ahhh there it is , NOW we are into the name calling – I knew you had it in you so now I’m a "Troll " - - Nice, and very Mature too , ok like I said before have a great day
ahh there it is, NOW we are into the pretending to be a victim – I knew you had it in you – Nice, and very Mature too, ok have a great day.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Are you blocking me? For pointing out your story was false and based on a satirical post? You realize I’m not attacking you, right? Just the content of your post.
I’m not sure it is fake - -again maybe we better just not read anything – watch anything listen to anything, that way we KNOW we are safe
It definitely is. But thanks for trolling.
ahhh there it is , NOW we are into the name calling – I knew you had it in you so now I’m a "Troll " - - Nice, and very Mature too , ok like I said before have a great day
ahh there it is, NOW we are into the pretending to be a victim – I knew you had it in you – Nice, and very Mature too, ok have a great day.
ahh you got wits too, and COMEDIAN - -copy - -just a very talented individual but I’m getting bored now time to move along nothing to see here so thanks for your input everyone can do that - - AND YOU HAVE thanks. - Think I’ll move on to something a little more interesting
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@jayballer73 Let me know if you find any more completely and obviously made up stories that have made you very angry. Happy to google it quickly and let you know it’s not real.
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@jayballer73 I suspect that if you go back to the moment that you saw this and decided to share it, at least part of the reason why was that it seemed preposterous. Anything that seems to defy common sense deserves some critical thinking.
I don’t think it is asking too much to be open to evidence when thinking about whether something is legit or not. If the site that publishes something has a disclaimer that says it is satire or not real, that seems like a good reason to question its legitimacy.
There are a LOT of sites out there doing this and lots of people are getting duped because they don’t take a moment to explore a bit about where the info came from. I wish it wasn’t this way, but it is now. The information ecosystem is polluted and we all have to be more careful about what we read, what we share and what conclusions we draw.
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@bskeet when I read it I thought it was strange, as I had the news on all am and never heard a word about it.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Let me know if you find any more completely and obviously made up stories that have made you very angry. Happy to google it quickly and let you know it’s not real.
good looking out - - told you was moving on decided to change profile pic took on baby face Devonte , you like it ? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 I have a pic of me and Devonte from the Kansas City airport. One of my faves. Such a fun player to watch! Has so much passion and joy and love for the game!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@bskeet when I read it I thought it was strange, as I had the news on all am and never heard a word about it.
I mean it was posted on the appropriate thread… We are on “differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19.” Might want to add “…and absolute rubbish” after the word opinion.
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Not going to lie, I legit laughed out loud at the line about $5000/plate for orphaned lemurs
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@FarmerJayhawk Lemurs need parents, too! Family units are the backbone of American Values.
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You guys are funny!
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@jayballer73 hey I ran across an article that digs into repeat positives in Korea I thought would interest you: https://qz.com/1837798/why-some-covid-19-patients-might-have-tested-positive-twice/
(Follow up from our last conversation)
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Holy crap this thread went off the rails with that satire story.
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@BShark a bit.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 I have a pic of me and Devonte from the Kansas City airport. One of my faves. Such a fun player to watch! Has so much passion and joy and love for the game!
Devonte was just such a personable guy, seemed like he was just full of life don’t you think? - - loved the kid Y you can tell he has a fire in that gut/passion
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@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Holy crap this thread went off the rails with that satire story.
lol what you said - - - OFF - - THE - - RAILS love that - -OFF - - THE - - RAILS – good , that’s good - - love that
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@jayballer73 You ok, man?
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 You ok, man?
LOL, ya I’m ok buddy just screwing around. - -Think I’m going stir crazy being cooped out in the house from this lol
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@jayballer73 I feel that! Gotta entertain ourselves somehow.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 I feel that! Gotta entertain ourselves somehow.
lol , that’s for sure - -pretty feeble attempt by me but what the hell lol
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@BShark I’m just sitting here having a cold beer and a good laugh. This site is half my entertainment right now.
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Curious if anyone knows what Trump means by “Liberate Michigan,” “Liberate Virginia, and save your great 2nd amendment. It is under siege!” and “Liberate Minnesota!” I’m trying to keep an open mind but I guess I don’t get the context or message being sent here?
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NOT GREAT, BOB https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1251217169259479041?s=21
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
NOT GREAT, BOB https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1251217169259479041?s=21
We don’t know what that means yet. Its scary but I’m going to hope for the best and plan for the worst. #wfh4eva
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Curious if anyone knows what Trump means by “Liberate Michigan,” “Liberate Virginia, and save your great 2nd amendment. It is under siege!” and “Liberate Minnesota!” I’m trying to keep an open mind but I guess I don’t get the context or message being sent here?
Somewhere between idiotic and revolutionary / treasonous.
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@approxinfinity I just can’t figure out what it even means. Like, there are only so many definitions and connotations for the word “liberate.” Is he saying those states need to open now? Is he saying they need to remove their governors? It’s just so unclear to me that I was hoping someone who thinks differently than me could give me a hand in figuring it out.
And does Virginia have some amendment undoing the 2nd amendment that I haven’t heard about?
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He’s talking about the 2nd amendment in Virginia because of the recent gun rally in Richmond, playing to fears of his base that the Democratic state congress and democratic governor are going to take away their guns. Never miss an opportunity to incite your gun-toting base in the middle of a pandemic. You can see where his head is.
When Gov Northam gets shot because some idiot heard something different maybe we can finally acknowledge that Trump is a disaster.
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@kjayhawks said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@BShark I’m just sitting here having a cold beer and a good laugh. This site is half my entertainment right now.
Dam BB Buddy Ol Jayballer could use a nice Ice cold one on this Friday lol
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@jayballer73 happy Friday! We made it!
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 happy Friday! We made it!
Lol , that we did. But dam kinda Parched & friends kicking back suckin suds and poor Ol Jayballer doesn’t have a SINGLE one in the house lol.
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@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 happy Friday! We made it!
Lol , that we did. But dam kinda Parched & friends kicking back suckin suds and poor Ol Jayballer doesn’t have a SINGLE one in the house lol.
Lol. I’m down to 2 year old holiday beer. I guess that’s marginally better.
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@approxinfinity @jayballer73 I have some random ciders and beers folks left in my fridge from when people were still allowed to come over. Not much good though. Have to break into the whisky.
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 happy Friday! We made it!
Lol , that we did. But dam kinda Parched & friends kicking back suckin suds and poor Ol Jayballer doesn’t have a SINGLE one in the house lol.
Lol. I’m down to 2 year old holiday beer. I guess that’s marginally better.
lmao well HEY, at least two year old holiday beer is better then no beer right? – well umm I think it is - – isn’t it? lol - HEY I do have a shooter of sim-fire Cinnamon whiskey roflmao - -desperate times - - desperate measures
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@approxinfinity @jayballer73 I have some random ciders and beers folks left in my fridge from when people were still allowed to come over. Not much good though. Have to break into the whisky.
Hell I’ll just run across the street to my neighbor buddy’s and get some of that moonshine - - that will kill ALL my worries lmao
