Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19
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@approxinfinity any cases reported in your area?
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@DoubleDD here’s a passage from a book called “Logically Fellacious” that explains two of your commonly employed logical fallacies about the truthfulness of other posters’ comments.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Ad-Hominem-Circumstantial
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Ad-Hominem-Guilt-by-Association
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@Crimsonorblue22 there’s one in my county and a couple others in neighboring counties. It’s everywhere. This isn’t going away. and here I thought the previous generation always gave their kids more complicated f’d up problems than they inherited. Nothing like going to a crowded beach for spring break. Too bad our elderly have to pay the price for it.
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@approxinfinity Case in Texas traces back to someone returning from south padre. The beaches were definitely a bad choice.
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I spend a lot of time on cruise forums. Cruisers are disproportionately 60 and over, and they were showing the same “no one tells me what to do” attitude and continuing to go on cruises until the lines finally shut down. It isn’t generational, it’s the universal invincibility belief that something bad won’t happen to me. Explains why you sometimes have to threaten people with kicking them out of the car to get them to wear a seat belt.
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@mayjay said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
I spend a lot of time on cruise forums. .
HVAC forums are more my thing… ran across one a while back and got hooked on Manual J calculation.
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 there’s one in my county and a couple others in neighboring counties. It’s everywhere. This isn’t going away. and here I thought the previous generation always gave their kids more complicated f’d up problems than they inherited. Nothing like going to a crowded beach for spring break. Too bad our elderly have to pay the price for it.
they was talking with a Doctor this morning and finding that the cases in Italy was different then China, saying that yes it was effecting younger. - -Did a breakdown of numbers , and said there is a fairly decent amount of cases between the ages of 20-54 years of age, that are in hospitals amd on ventilators equaling 29 % of the cases. - Yet while there is these numbers they ARE saying the mortality rate is a lot better only about 1 % fatilities with this age range. - -
Still these kids have that approach of I don’t care. - -They were interviewing some and the general thyme was the it doesn’t matter, saying oh well If I get the virus - - I get the virus , talking how they had been looking , forward to the break and no virus was going to stop them from invading the beaches what eve happens - -happens. - Super no thought for the elderly.
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@DanR I would like to say that sounds really interesting!
Well, I would like to say that… 🥴
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Dentists going to emergency only next week. Thanks @Crimsonorblue22 for the early scoop.
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approxinfinity said:
If all the stores had the cojones to have a policy it wouldnt be necessary.
Target in Overland Park put a policy in place last Friday the 13th. Only two cases of bottled water and 1 package of TP.
I didn’t have any problems getting groceries there last weekend.
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Up to34 confirmed cases now here in Kansas. - -Johnson Co leading the way with 16 Wyandotte I think they said had 8. - -Leavenworth with 2 Butler Co ,Jackson Co , Morris Co , Douglas Co can’t remember the others
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@jayballer73 ford co, brought in from out of state
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I’m at the vet, curb side dog pick up! I’m still going nuts.
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I read that liquor stores are now offering curbside pickup!
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@bcjayhawk hitting it hard!?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Noe at the moment (I’m at work!!), but if I decide to, I won’t have to get out of my car to get a supply LOL.
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@bcjayhawk I’m hoping everyone will use curbside services during this reeeeaaaalllly long time! I feel for them! Gift cards are still great gift ideas too.
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I dont know. Shoudl we use curbside? I havent left my house in 4 days.
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
I dont know. Shoudl we use curbside? I havent left my house in 4 days.
Buying groceries and cooking (or just buying junk food, but I can’t recommend that) seems like a much better idea. Minimizes interaction and risk.
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@bcjayhawk https://www.kfdi.com/2020/03/19/sedgwick-county-sees-first-presumptive-positive-case-of-covid-19/
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@bcjayhawk oh no to close now!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yes it is. I hope everyone is taking precautions, but a certain amount of life has to go on. My family is fortunate to have two fridges and a good sized freezer, but you still need stuff from the store like fresh produce, eggs, etc. I saw something about freezing milk, but didn’t read anything but the headline which indicated you could. We bought a few packages of frozen veggies just in case.
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@bcjayhawk I heard u can freeze milk. Not an expert though!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@bcjayhawk I heard u can freeze milk. Not an expert though!
you can buddy, The wife and I freeze milk all the time. - We buy 4-5 gallons keep one out & freeze the others. Pull the next one out overnight and good to go. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@bcjayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 Yes it is. I hope everyone is taking precautions, but a certain amount of life has to go on. My family is fortunate to have two fridges and a good sized freezer, but you still need stuff from the store like fresh produce, eggs, etc. I saw something about freezing milk, but didn’t read anything but the headline which indicated you could. We bought a few packages of frozen veggies just in case.
Thing is good luck finding any. My sister went to just buy some potatoes/eggs in her local little town - - - NONE - -came into Topeka and finally found some Potatoes but no eggs.
Walmart is going to start allowing Seniors to shop for a hour before anyone else. - -Thing is though like I said and I’m serious about this , it’s still going to be dark and it’s about toget really tricky. - - People not able to find things, hope they have somebody watch as we leave the store , worry about getting jumped and our stuff taken
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Went to the store in Austin yesterday. Plenty of food if you aren’t too picky. A LOT of fresh food but out of specific things like eggs, pasta, cleaning supplies. Restaurants still serving to go and drive through. I’m betting the runs at stores will slow down in the next 3 weeks once people start to realize the food isn’t going away and at some point you have to eat all the crap you just bought!
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Went to the store in Austin yesterday. Plenty of food if you aren’t too picky. A LOT of fresh food but out of specific things like eggs, pasta, cleaning supplies. Restaurants still serving to go and drive through. I’m betting the runs at stores will slow down in the next 3 weeks once people start to realize the food isn’t going away and at some point you have to eat all the crap you just bought!
This is what I keep telling myself and others too. Yesterday we couldn’t find eggs but did find grapes, oranges, and avocados. The rush, fingers crossed, knock on wood, and pray is mostly slowing down.
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Reno co has one now. A lil nervous.
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Supply chains have not been interrupted yet so we just need some damn limits in place. I’m well stocked at least.
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A Friend out of Wichita said at a Walmart there they bought meat , got up to the registar and found for every meat item they purchased - -it had to be rung up on a separate transaction. - -I really don’t get the purpose of that.
Another words IF you bought 8 different kinds of meat - -they have to ring up 8 transactions - what the hell is the purpose of that?
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@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
A Friend out of Wichita said at a Walmart there they bought meat , got up to the registar and found for every meat item they purchased - -it had to be rung up on a separate transaction. - -I really don’t get the purpose of that.
Another words IF you bought 8 different kinds of meat - -they have to ring up 8 transactions - what the hell is the purpose of that?
To limit panic buying. I was at my store earlier and they had 0 beef in stock. Really irritating. It’s not the best way of doing it. Maybe one of the worst, honestly.
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Wonder why they let them do it? I know a friend said somebody at Walmart was stopped from getting 2 pkgs of tp.
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Here’s another article with some interesting takes. https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
A Friend out of Wichita said at a Walmart there they bought meat , got up to the registar and found for every meat item they purchased - -it had to be rung up on a separate transaction. - -I really don’t get the purpose of that.
Another words IF you bought 8 different kinds of meat - -they have to ring up 8 transactions - what the hell is the purpose of that?
To limit panic buying. I was at my store earlier and they had 0 beef in stock. Really irritating. It’s not the best way of doing it. Maybe one of the worst, honestly.
Not sure about that because Walmart isn’t saying they can’t buy that many items , it’s just that all they are doing is for every meat item they have to ring in a single item and close out - -ring it up again - - ring out - - ring it up again, they are not gaining anything by doing this. The customer is STILL buying those 8 separate items of meat. Hamburger , Bacon , Sausage , Steak etc , etc. All they are causing by doing this is just causing longer lines and getting other customers even MORE upset by having to stand in line longer
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@BShark https://apple.news/AeAF-cKFZQ2K-FX-QfkOF6g
Have u watched any of the trump news conferences this week? These stories make me want to punch him! I just can’t handle the lack of empathy or understanding of what Our medical help are doing to save us. I’m pretty scared! If any of you have watched any news you know what I mean
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@Crimsonorblue22 Trump’s stupidity is infuriating but I’ve caught snippets on Twitter.
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@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Mercy
This scared the shit out of me.
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@approxinfinity yeah, I’ve been linking it everywhere. Powerful.
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@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 Trump’s stupidity is infuriating but I’ve caught snippets on Twitter.
Ahhh so when we are in a time for solidarity as a Nation your one of the one’s that would instead want to try and point fingers and place blame ? - - - Ahh got ya buddy I understand , ya that makes things MUCH MUCH better let’s play the blame game - -ya that’s it whatever works for ya. Main while back at the ranch.
Trump was on this back in January and trying to do what he COULD DO at the time while the good old Democrats were ignoring and try to line up people so they could impeach Trump instead of worrying about this major problem at hand.
It’s ok just myself I STILL consider you very intelligent insider in our over all KU scheme and we all have opinions which we are all entitled to, it’s just I think at a time when we need to be solidified as a Country right now - -as been said by others - this IS NOT a time to get small and try and point fingers. Lot bigger issue to deal with then be a type of well he did this - - he didn’t do that - - they said this – they didn’t say anything. Ok that is all I’m not going to go back and forth all that took place was you voice an opinion which is fine ,& I took my option and voiced my rebuttal to that - -game over no harm no foul, have a great day my friend - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 There’s a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we aren’t united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesn’t absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 There’s a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we aren’t united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesn’t absolve someone from bad leadership.
Bad leadership? Says who ? You. When did you become an expert on leadership? I mean your boy Obama and the Biben team did a worse job on H1N1.
I don’t know, how about the American citizens join forces And keep a virus at bay. But no let’s play politics.
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@benshawks08 maybe you would rather have a president say to all Americans you are all screwed. Deal with it? Is that what you really want. Think you can protect your stock pile of toilet paper?
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@benshawks08 there can be unity, but there will always people like you that won’t approve unless there is a D in office. Doesn’t matter what they do as long as they have a D beside their name.
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Your boy? Cuomo is doing a better job. We could use a proactive guy. Get the freaking supplies! Let the Dr deal w/the meds. Trump is not a dr. Terrible job!
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Maybe we should have been taking this seriously in January.
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@BShark yep, and he knew, a wave he said, wash right thru
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@Crimsonorblue22 didn’t want big numbers hurting that re-election campaign.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Your boy? Cuomo is doing a better job. We could use a proactive guy. Get the freaking supplies! Let the Dr deal w/the meds. Trump is not a dr. Terrible job!
You do know the whole world is short on supplies? Nobody knew because the China Government didn’t share or warn. Yet I get it because it’s a reb President blast him. Yet bet you think Obama did a great job with h1n1.
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