Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19
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@jayballer73 good stuff. I appreciate your takes. It is good to be realistic and I think we are better able to discern reality by getting many different thoughts. Pooling our resources.
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It’s time like these where you really have to fight against the FUD. Fear, uncertainty and doubt.
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Be smart. Understand the risk. Don’t panic. We’ll come out the other end. Maybe with a cough. Idk
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Be smart. Understand the risk. Don’t panic. We’ll come out the other end. Maybe with a cough. Idk
NO FARMER I NEED DRONES AND ASSAULT RIFLES FOR WHEN THE SUPPLY ENDS AND PEOPLE TRY TO SOME STEAL MY TP.
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@BShark as @bskeet said (I think) this is a game of prisoners dilemma. If the other guy goes feral then you may want to at least have a plan for that.
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@BShark as @bskeet said (I think) this is a game of prisoners dilemma. If the other guy goes feral then you may want to at least have a plan for that.
It’s definitely a classic run. You see someone with a lot of TP, you might think they know something you don’t so you get more, and on it goes.
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@approxinfinity @FarmerJayhawk Yeah I’ve seen things about police no longer arresting for most crimes. I know someone that had their car stolen and the police told them “lol” basically. So definitely watch your back right now for sure.
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Boy Oh Boy, we actually have uniformed Police officers at Walmart here in Topeka standing in the aisle where the Toilet Paper , Paper Towels and such are and only allowing people two items apiece. - - lol - -how crazy is that ? – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 sad that it’s necessary
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@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 sad that it’s necessary
Very True
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If all the stores had the cojones to have a policy it wouldnt be necessary.
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Christ. I’ve been informed a communion assistant at my home church back home tested positive after serving communion Sunday. 28% of the county’s population is over 65.
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@FarmerJayhawk on no, that’s devastating.
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@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk on no, that’s devastating.
Hoping it’s just one of those small town rumors. My Grandma would’ve been exposed. She’s 80. A remarkably healthy 80, but still 80.
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@FarmerJayhawk I can’t believe they were doing that!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk I can’t believe they were doing that!
More evidence people need to take this very seriously!
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Can they stream? Churches here r doing that
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My moms church couldn’t do that, nor would she know how to do it. Same as ESPN+
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My parents church did a group phone call that one of the church members set up. They just had to dial in.
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@approxinfinity any cases reported in your area?
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@DoubleDD here’s a passage from a book called “Logically Fellacious” that explains two of your commonly employed logical fallacies about the truthfulness of other posters’ comments.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Ad-Hominem-Circumstantial
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Ad-Hominem-Guilt-by-Association
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@Crimsonorblue22 there’s one in my county and a couple others in neighboring counties. It’s everywhere. This isn’t going away. and here I thought the previous generation always gave their kids more complicated f’d up problems than they inherited. Nothing like going to a crowded beach for spring break. Too bad our elderly have to pay the price for it.
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@approxinfinity Case in Texas traces back to someone returning from south padre. The beaches were definitely a bad choice.
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I spend a lot of time on cruise forums. Cruisers are disproportionately 60 and over, and they were showing the same “no one tells me what to do” attitude and continuing to go on cruises until the lines finally shut down. It isn’t generational, it’s the universal invincibility belief that something bad won’t happen to me. Explains why you sometimes have to threaten people with kicking them out of the car to get them to wear a seat belt.
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@mayjay said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
I spend a lot of time on cruise forums. .
HVAC forums are more my thing… ran across one a while back and got hooked on Manual J calculation.
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 there’s one in my county and a couple others in neighboring counties. It’s everywhere. This isn’t going away. and here I thought the previous generation always gave their kids more complicated f’d up problems than they inherited. Nothing like going to a crowded beach for spring break. Too bad our elderly have to pay the price for it.
they was talking with a Doctor this morning and finding that the cases in Italy was different then China, saying that yes it was effecting younger. - -Did a breakdown of numbers , and said there is a fairly decent amount of cases between the ages of 20-54 years of age, that are in hospitals amd on ventilators equaling 29 % of the cases. - Yet while there is these numbers they ARE saying the mortality rate is a lot better only about 1 % fatilities with this age range. - -
Still these kids have that approach of I don’t care. - -They were interviewing some and the general thyme was the it doesn’t matter, saying oh well If I get the virus - - I get the virus , talking how they had been looking , forward to the break and no virus was going to stop them from invading the beaches what eve happens - -happens. - Super no thought for the elderly.
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@DanR I would like to say that sounds really interesting!
Well, I would like to say that… 🥴
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Dentists going to emergency only next week. Thanks @Crimsonorblue22 for the early scoop.
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approxinfinity said:
If all the stores had the cojones to have a policy it wouldnt be necessary.
Target in Overland Park put a policy in place last Friday the 13th. Only two cases of bottled water and 1 package of TP.
I didn’t have any problems getting groceries there last weekend.
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Up to34 confirmed cases now here in Kansas. - -Johnson Co leading the way with 16 Wyandotte I think they said had 8. - -Leavenworth with 2 Butler Co ,Jackson Co , Morris Co , Douglas Co can’t remember the others
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@jayballer73 ford co, brought in from out of state
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I’m at the vet, curb side dog pick up! I’m still going nuts.
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I read that liquor stores are now offering curbside pickup!
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@bcjayhawk hitting it hard!?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Noe at the moment (I’m at work!!), but if I decide to, I won’t have to get out of my car to get a supply LOL.
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@bcjayhawk I’m hoping everyone will use curbside services during this reeeeaaaalllly long time! I feel for them! Gift cards are still great gift ideas too.
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I dont know. Shoudl we use curbside? I havent left my house in 4 days.
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@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
I dont know. Shoudl we use curbside? I havent left my house in 4 days.
Buying groceries and cooking (or just buying junk food, but I can’t recommend that) seems like a much better idea. Minimizes interaction and risk.
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@bcjayhawk https://www.kfdi.com/2020/03/19/sedgwick-county-sees-first-presumptive-positive-case-of-covid-19/
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@bcjayhawk oh no to close now!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yes it is. I hope everyone is taking precautions, but a certain amount of life has to go on. My family is fortunate to have two fridges and a good sized freezer, but you still need stuff from the store like fresh produce, eggs, etc. I saw something about freezing milk, but didn’t read anything but the headline which indicated you could. We bought a few packages of frozen veggies just in case.
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@bcjayhawk I heard u can freeze milk. Not an expert though!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@bcjayhawk I heard u can freeze milk. Not an expert though!
you can buddy, The wife and I freeze milk all the time. - We buy 4-5 gallons keep one out & freeze the others. Pull the next one out overnight and good to go. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@bcjayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 Yes it is. I hope everyone is taking precautions, but a certain amount of life has to go on. My family is fortunate to have two fridges and a good sized freezer, but you still need stuff from the store like fresh produce, eggs, etc. I saw something about freezing milk, but didn’t read anything but the headline which indicated you could. We bought a few packages of frozen veggies just in case.
Thing is good luck finding any. My sister went to just buy some potatoes/eggs in her local little town - - - NONE - -came into Topeka and finally found some Potatoes but no eggs.
Walmart is going to start allowing Seniors to shop for a hour before anyone else. - -Thing is though like I said and I’m serious about this , it’s still going to be dark and it’s about toget really tricky. - - People not able to find things, hope they have somebody watch as we leave the store , worry about getting jumped and our stuff taken
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Went to the store in Austin yesterday. Plenty of food if you aren’t too picky. A LOT of fresh food but out of specific things like eggs, pasta, cleaning supplies. Restaurants still serving to go and drive through. I’m betting the runs at stores will slow down in the next 3 weeks once people start to realize the food isn’t going away and at some point you have to eat all the crap you just bought!
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Went to the store in Austin yesterday. Plenty of food if you aren’t too picky. A LOT of fresh food but out of specific things like eggs, pasta, cleaning supplies. Restaurants still serving to go and drive through. I’m betting the runs at stores will slow down in the next 3 weeks once people start to realize the food isn’t going away and at some point you have to eat all the crap you just bought!
This is what I keep telling myself and others too. Yesterday we couldn’t find eggs but did find grapes, oranges, and avocados. The rush, fingers crossed, knock on wood, and pray is mostly slowing down.
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Reno co has one now. A lil nervous.
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Supply chains have not been interrupted yet so we just need some damn limits in place. I’m well stocked at least.
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A Friend out of Wichita said at a Walmart there they bought meat , got up to the registar and found for every meat item they purchased - -it had to be rung up on a separate transaction. - -I really don’t get the purpose of that.
Another words IF you bought 8 different kinds of meat - -they have to ring up 8 transactions - what the hell is the purpose of that?