2020 Transfer List
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he’s missed the deadline for entering the Draft…
In Sarr’s words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. “I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn’t get the chance to put my name in and change my mind.”
“It’s actually a tough decision,” Sarr said. “I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I’m entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me.”
Not a big fan of how Danny handled that situation. With the rules set up the way they are currently, there’s no harm in letting a kid declare and go through the process and get some feedback from scouts what he needed to work on to be successful at the next level because the kid can still withdraw and come back to school after getting the feedback. L
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That’s why I said if there was a spot, saying boot someone to make room.
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@FarmerJayhawk I was thinking the same thing. Is he a soph, senior, what (I’m being lazy)?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he’s a bust - mark it. Jossell’s 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let’s not act like we’re holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio’s head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
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@Marco said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he’s a bust - mark it. Jossell’s 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let’s not act like we’re holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio’s head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
Sarr would have to sit a year I believe, and then would be a senior when he’s eligible so you only get Sarr for one year. That’s the key with why KU won’t look at him. He wouldn’t be at KU beyond McCormack to be the bridge from Dave to Gethro. He’s also too good of a player to be a back up at KU, but he’s also not better than McCormack so he would be a back up here. Silvio fits that back up role better.
I don’t understand what you mean by Silvio’s head isn’t in the game because what I saw when he came back last season was someone who was still playing too fast because the game hasn’t slowed down for him yet because he’s still only played about 350 minutes of basketball in 3 years now. That’s not his head not being in the game, that’s lack of experience which I said before the season was going to be his issue and I don’t remember how many people tried calling BS on that one, I do you were one of them however. If Silvio’s head wasn’t in the game, Self would’ve booted him from the team after the KSU incident. That incident is exactly the opposite of his head not being in the game, that’s a case of him being too involved and letting his emotions get the best of him in the heat of the moment. That shows passion, not disinterest.
The other thing with Silvio is that he’s athletic enough that if the light comes on for him, which it will if he gets 12-15 mpg, he’s athletic enough to play the 4 and guard on the perimeter so he could play next to Dave if the light comes on.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
He was awesome in some games last yr. Agree would take in a heartbeat
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Big blow for Arizona St as Romello White transfers. Averaged 10 & 8 & 1 blk per game last season
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Big blow for Arizona St as Romello White transfers. Averaged 10 & 8 & 1 blk per game last season
Hard to believe this would happen considering how many decommits he had. Lol.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Marco said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he’s a bust - mark it. Jossell’s 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let’s not act like we’re holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio’s head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
Sarr would have to sit a year I believe, and then would be a senior when he’s eligible so you only get Sarr for one year. That’s the key with why KU won’t look at him. He wouldn’t be at KU beyond McCormack to be the bridge from Dave to Gethro. He’s also too good of a player to be a back up at KU, but he’s also not better than McCormack so he would be a back up here. Silvio fits that back up role better.
I don’t understand what you mean by Silvio’s head isn’t in the game because what I saw when he came back last season was someone who was still playing too fast because the game hasn’t slowed down for him yet because he’s still only played about 350 minutes of basketball in 3 years now. That’s not his head not being in the game, that’s lack of experience which I said before the season was going to be his issue and I don’t remember how many people tried calling BS on that one, I do you were one of them however. If Silvio’s head wasn’t in the game, Self would’ve booted him from the team after the KSU incident. That incident is exactly the opposite of his head not being in the game, that’s a case of him being too involved and letting his emotions get the best of him in the heat of the moment. That shows passion, not disinterest.
The other thing with Silvio is that he’s athletic enough that if the light comes on for him, which it will if he gets 12-15 mpg, he’s athletic enough to play the 4 and guard on the perimeter so he could play next to Dave if the light comes on.
I hope you’re right, @FarmerJayhawk!
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Sarr to Kentucky
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@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
Sarr to Kentucky
Iff he gets a waiver. If he has to sit he’s heading overseas.
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@Marco Dallas Comegys was at DePaul with Ray Meyer but he wasn’t part of the final four team with Mark Aguirre Terry Cummings and others. They narrowly lost to Bird in that semifinal. I love going to Hs games here in Chicago. Brad Underwood is learning to recruit Chicago but needs to put a wall around the state. Not sure who next years top guys are but Simeon will be loaded. As usual.
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@Marco It’s hard to believe but I just saw an article that Adam Miller is the University of Illinois’ highest ranked recruit since 2003. And he’s not terribly high, around 30 in most rankings. Of course, Bill Self was recruiting for U of I in 2003, at least partially. Adam Miller was the son of a co-worker and when I figured out who she was, he was a heavy KU lean according to her. Obviously it didn’t work out. Miller is also the highest rated incoming BIG player which at around 30 is a little hard to believe also.
When Illinois was playing for the NC all the way back to the late 70’s when DePaul was they were using Chicago kids. Hurt feelings among spurned coaches in hiring by U of I led to a unofficial boycott of the U of I by Chicago kids. Something similar happened with Ray Meyers son at Depaul who really suffered from a poor relationship with a King HS coach named Sonny Cox (who just died this week). Cox was so influential among Chicago players that basically Depaul could no longer successfully recruit Chicago kids.
Yes I think you’re right. So much talent coming out of the city. Derrick Rose, Anthony Davis, Jalen Brunson, Jabari Parker, Jahlil Okhafor all playing major roles on NC title game participants recently. I could have added Devon Dotson’s name to the list had we the chance to compete for the championship, although he wasn’t a HS player in Chicago, he spent his first decade+ there.
KU has Julian Wright, Sherron Collins and Cliff Alexander among many others from Chicago in the recent decade or so.
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Leading scorer from East Tennessee St Bo Hodges is transferring. Would take, he was pretty darn good against KU last yr
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Transfer Portal approaching 900 as we hit Mid May.
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If there were a guy Bill would snatch up immediately and we’d all go wut it would be Eastern. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nojel-eastern-1.html
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@FarmerJayhawk woof. Thankfully not happening.
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@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk woof. Thankfully not happening.
Yep, we’re set. Had a long chat with a KU guy the other day and nobody expects any departures.
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@FarmerJayhawk Great. Was Eastern playing hurt last year or something? That’s a sharp decline.
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@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk Great. Was Eastern playing hurt last year or something? That’s a sharp decline.
Carsen Edwards made up for a lot of flaws. The rest of the squad was just JAGs.
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@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk Great. Was Eastern playing hurt last year or something? That’s a sharp decline.
Eastern was never that good even when healthy. I’d rather have Haarms than Eastern and opinion of Haarms wasn’t that high to begin with.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk Great. Was Eastern playing hurt last year or something? That’s a sharp decline.
Eastern was never that good even when healthy. I’d rather have Haarms than Eastern and opinion of Haarms wasn’t that high to begin with.
For sure. He’s a homeless man’s Marcus Garrett. And KU was his dream school once upon a time.
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Painter said Eastern was simply beaten out in practice by Williams. But people are wondering aloud what is up at Purdue. I’ve always liked Matt Painter. Decent coach, decent recruits, seems like a straight up type of guy. But Purdue is fundamentally flawed as a program. 0 final fours since them and Iowa choked in the 1980 final four. You look at the list of final four teams since 1980 and then realize Purdue, Missouri and KState is not on that list. It’s one thing if you don’t consider yourself a basketball school to avoid the FF, but those schools like to think they’re decent basketball schools.
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Man that Purdue/Virginia game in the tourney two years ago was one of the best games I’ve seen in a while. Carson Edwards was unreal that game. I also enjoyed KU’s trouncing of Purdue a few years back in the S16 I believe it was? I believe it was also Purdue that we beat in 2012. Can’t say I have issue with Purdon’t and Painter seems like a perfect fit there
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Wow that game was epic and Purdue has no one to blame but themselves! The winning play was also a losing play by Purdue because three of their guys chased the loose ball down court instead of staying home to defend their basket. Had they not lost their heads there’s no way UVA completes that miracle play and Bennett still hasn’t been to a FF and Purdue could be the rare team that reigns as national champ for more than one season!
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Chaundee to Meeeechigan. Good pickup for them after they lost Todd.
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Mac McClung released a Top 7. KU wasn’t on it which isn’t the point I’m making here. It’s funny that transfers have “top 7” lists now. I saw recently a football recruit release a “top 20”. funny stuff.
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The immediate transfer rule has been tabled until next season per NCAA. Still I’d imagine just about anyone who transferred to apply for immediate waiver anyway based on Covid etc.
Self will be happy for at least another year as he was opposed to the rule change. I think most coaches will be against it
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
The immediate transfer rule has been tabled until next season per NCAA. Still I’d imagine just about anyone who transferred to apply for immediate waiver anyway based on Covid etc.
Self will be happy for at least another year as he was opposed to the rule change. I think most coaches will be against it
what is tabeled mean ?
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There will be no immediate transfer rules in place until next year at earliest
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Davide Moretti leaving Texas Tech for Euro. Been a long time rumor he would go that route
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Huge blow for St Johns leading scorer & 2nd team All Big-easts LJ Figueroa on the move again. Read an article that made it sound as if some schools were tampering in his ear about an immediate transfer somewhere else… Oh boy
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@BeddieKU23 who is on mcClungs list?
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
There will be no immediate transfer rules in place until next year at earliest
Oh , Oh , Oh . - -Ok gotcha. well that doesn’t really surprise me THAT much. Thanks for clearing that up for me though. - -kinda slow sometimes lol
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Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
With Moreti gone I bet he ends up @ Tech.
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@BeddieKU23 thx!
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@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
With Moreti gone I bet he ends up @ Tech.
Tech is actually full on scholarships right now. Of course numbers always work out but he would have to sit a year so it doesn’t help losing Moretti. They have 5 star Burnett replacing him anyway
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Iowa St added Jalen Coleman-Lands, Grad Transfer from Depaul/formerly of Illinois. Has been around longer then Perry Ellis. Avg 11 ppg on 36% FG & 32% from 3 last season
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@BeddieKU23 so weird to me that isu gets the most hyphenated last names.
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I’ll take a Grant-Foster over a Coleman-Lands!
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@Woodrow said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Texas Tech, Auburn, Memphis, USC, BYU, Wake Forest, Arkansas
With Moreti gone I bet he ends up @ Tech.
And he just committed to Tech
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Tech got a commit from Georgetown transfer Mac McClung.
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Doesn’t help them this yr.
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@BeddieKU23 unless he gets a waiver
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 unless he gets a waiver
He’s not, he’s a sit out transfer.
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A lot of Tech fans seem to think McClung will be eligible to play next season. I’m not sure how he would get a waiver.
But, regardless, it will be interesting to see what Beard can do with him at Tech. He needs to improve as a defender/passer and improve his shooting efficiency (only 39.4% from the floor last season).
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@KirkIsMyHinrich A lot of fans may not be aware the transfer waiver rule got shelved until next year.
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