Kansas vs Duke Game Thread:
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Didn’t seem to have a 3pt shooter on the floor - or ability to get someone open on the wing to take the shot.
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@kjayhawks Have fun watching Duke this year. Come back when they’re a round of 32 out and Kansas is rolling.
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@wissox Yes, but we were our own worst enemy.
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wissox said:
I don’t think we can blame the Duke whistle on this one. Duke is ranked 3 in the country. Maybe the pollsters are right and we just lost to a really good team in our first outing of the season?
Honestly both teams looked bad to me. I want to see this KU team with a truly healthy Dotson (he was clearly still hobbled a bit) and Moss in the mix as well.
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wissox said:
I don’t think we can blame the Duke whistle on this one. Duke is ranked 3 in the country. Maybe the pollsters are right and we just lost to a really good team in our first outing of the season?
I refuse to believe this watching the game. We shot ourselves in the foot 20 times tonight.
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@Kcmatt7 Good news is we had a lot of correctable errors.
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@BShark I forgot Dotson is still hurt. That’s comforting.
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Modern basketball 1-0-1, you have to make and guard the 3.
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@BShark Yes…Moss should help. We need another outside threat.
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Dotson is clearly not 100%, but running the hi-lo offense through Big Dave ain’t going to do it either.
Guys were practically running into each other on offense.
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approxinfinity said:
@BShark I forgot Dotson is still hurt. That’s comforting.
He was getting by guys at times still but you could really tell he wasn’t right. Rest up and get a W on Friday.
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This team is going to steamroll people once they’re healthy and develop chemistry. Calm down people.
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@approxinfinity right lol because Jones made Dotson look foolish repeatedly I’m a Dook fan right. You from Missouri?
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DanR said:
Dotson is clearly not 100%, but running the hi-lo offense through Big Dave ain’t going to do it either.
Guys were practically running into each other on offense.
I’m very over playing 2 5s at the same time.
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@BShark me too!
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@BShark hasn’t worked in years, 16-18 was great with four guards.
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BShark said:
DanR said:
Dotson is clearly not 100%, but running the hi-lo offense through Big Dave ain’t going to do it either.
Guys were practically running into each other on offense.
I’m very over playing 2 5s at the same time.
FF with four guards and Bill writes it off immediately
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4 guards that can shoot with Doke only got us a final four, who knows.
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kjayhawks said:
@BShark hasn’t worked in years, 16-18 was great with four guards.
The problem, at least as I see it is playing two true centers specifically. Guys with no range at all. We have the pieces to put legit size out there at the 4 spot without completely sacrificing spacing which makes it even more frustrating.
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Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
DanR said:
Dotson is clearly not 100%, but running the hi-lo offense through Big Dave ain’t going to do it either.
Guys were practically running into each other on offense.
I’m very over playing 2 5s at the same time.
FF with four guards and Bill writes it off immediately
Does who those 4 guards are matter?
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@BShark I’m not so sure. The concern was how they would do on defense. Our defense didn’t suck. Duke shot only 36%. We just need to get it together on offense.
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Bwag said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
DanR said:
Dotson is clearly not 100%, but running the hi-lo offense through Big Dave ain’t going to do it either.
Guys were practically running into each other on offense.
I’m very over playing 2 5s at the same time.
FF with four guards and Bill writes it off immediately
Does who those 4 guards are matter?
Sure. And we have 4 guards on this team plenty capable. Especially now that Enaruna has looked way better than I thought he would at this stage.
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Give Tristan, Jalen and Braun all the minutes they can handle.
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@tundrahok I agree I’ve been saying offense is the issue. If we had a guy that could consistently hit that Marcus Morris elbow midrange jumper it would be a different story.
I think Jalen and Tristan are promising at the 4. Wonder what direction Bill will go in.
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I better get off here, I’m too mad and will probably say something very bad. We can fix the turnovers but having zero shooters like last season after Vick left is Killer. You can’t make them pay for double teaming the post without it. We had no business losing that one, if we just played smart for more than 6 minutes.
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approxinfinity said:
Give Tristan, Jalen and Braun all the minutes they can handle.
We see tonight what Self really thinks of Braun and Wilson.
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@BShark Our freshman show promise, but they still look like freshmen. Bill hangs his hat on defense, and the newbies will take a while to figure that out. I can’t see him making any changes just yet.
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Shooting wasn’t the problem 44%
4/11 from three. Just didn’t get enough shots due to the turnovers
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DanR said:
Shooting wasn’t the problem 44%
4/11 from three. Just didn’t get enough shots due to the turnovers
100000%
A normal turnover game and this is an easy win.
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BShark said:
@tundrahok I agree I’ve been saying offense is the issue. If we had a guy that could consistently hit that Marcus Morris elbow midrange jumper it would be a different story.
I think Jalen and Tristan are promising at the 4. Wonder what direction Bill will go in.
Bruh you posted the exact opposite like a week ago. We’re going to be a great team. Get Moss, get Dotson healthy, we’ll be fine.
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@FarmerJayhawk Defense can still be an issue depending on the opponent. Offense was CLEARLY an issue tonight. Can’t shoot, turnover machine.
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We will be fine guys. We out shot them in fg% and 3%. Turnovers can be fixed. We will get it figured out by the Michigan State game
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rockchalkwyo said:
We will be fine guys. We out shot them in fg% and 3%. Turnovers can be fixed. We will get it figured out by the Michigan State game
We have to beat UCLA or BYU to even play MSU most likely. I’M NOT CONVINCED.
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@BShark well we played the stretchiest perimeter team out there and made them look stupid all night. Offense will get a lot better. We’re going to win the league by 3 games.
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We have one play maker, Dotson, who didn’t make plays or lead. Agbaji is not very good off the ball yet. I think the Lightfoot red-shirt is a mistake. Self’s best teams always had a senior who calmed things down simply by being in the right place and doing things correctly.
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I’d rather play a stinker like this the first game of the season than the last one.
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BigBad said:
We have one play maker, Dotson, who didn’t make plays or lead. Agbaji is not very good off the ball yet. I think the Lightfoot red-shirt is a mistake. Self’s best teams always had a senior who calmed things down simply by being in the right place and doing things correctly.
We need Dotson’s ankle to heal. I’d give him mine if I could.
On Mitch, when you read the statement Bill put out it seems fairly clear to me that Bill wishes he had Mitch available but this is what is best for Mitch getting his post grad paid for.
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Our bigs need to finish! Geez!
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BShark said:
We have to beat UCLA or BYU to even play MSU most likely. I’M NOT CONVINCED.
Nah we got it
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We out shot them percentage wise, field goals, 3 point percentage, (yes they made 4 more total) and free throw percentage. Out rebounded them too by 10. One more block then the dookies, one more steal, even in assists. Turnovers - 11 more then them. It was close … Biggus Davus made a bonehead pass, but it could have been us to win Let’s hope we meet the blue dookwads again in the tourney.
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November 5th - - - have to laugh. - - 28 turnovers - -equals 28 less opportunities to score the ball - – - your point guard turns the ball over 6 times - - your opponent only shoots 36 % - -and you only lose by 2.
Bright spot in this game if there can be one - - -Udoka - -making 2-3 from the ft line - - - -75 % free thowing - - atta boy.
This game is behind us - -time to work on ball handling – free throw shooting and all that other good stuff - - Dad gummit - so much for us running the table/perfect Season lol - - -can only laugh/that or find new cuss words - - I’ll laugh. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Look at it this way. If we turn it over ONLY 25 TIMES we win. My lord.
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We got Moss’d.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Look at it this way. If we turn it over ONLY 25 TIMES we win. My lord.
Imagine if they cut that number in half.
I actually don’t feel too terrible about this loss. Just kind of venting with some typing/verbal diarrhea.
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Bosthawk said:
We out shot them percentage wise, field goals, 3 point percentage, (yes they make 4 more total) and free throw percentage. Out rebounded them too by 10. One more block then the dookies, one more steal, even in assists. Turnovers - 11 more then them.
All that ads to a loss. - -final Duke 68 KU -66 - -pretty hard to win when the opponent gets 11 more chances to score - -1st game - - NEXT
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We will be much better with Moss. We will be hard to guard.
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Had a pretty good 8 minute stretch at the beginning of the 2nd half
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Not trying to pile on Dave, but just thinking back to some wasted possessions in the last 3 minutes… illegal screen, stupid bounce pass to Doke. Clanked followup on Garret’s miss. Love the dude, but not the guy I want involved in clutch time compared to pretty much anyone else on the team.
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DanR said:
Not trying to pile on Dave, but just thinking back to some wasted possessions in the last 3 minutes… illegal screen, stupid bounce pass to Doke. Clanked followup on Garret’s miss. Love the dude, but not the guy I want involved in clutch time compared to pretty much anyone else on the team.
Career High and team leading 13 rebounds
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@jayballer73 Yeah, I know. Just wish he would’ve kicked it out to a guard on that last board.
