My Condolences
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As a lifelong Cardinals fan, my condolences to all Royals fans on the hire of Mike Matheny.
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@FarmerJayhawk It’s just baseball. Nobody really cares.
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I do!
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@FarmerJayhawk Watching Anthony the pick after Bubba Starling Rendon be excellent was bad enough.
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The Cardinals ran Matheny out of town because he was not having success developing their young players. What do the Royals have? A bunch of young up and coming players. This was not well thought out.
This was the first year in almost fifteen years that I had not attended a Royals game. Next year may be the second in a row.
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@justanotherfan Spot on, was gonna say the samething.
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justanotherfan said:
The Cardinals ran Matheny out of town because he was not having success developing their young players. What do the Royals have? A bunch of young up and coming players. This was not well thought out.
This was the first year in almost fifteen years that I had not attended a Royals game. Next year may be the second in a row.
They’re starting to price themselves out of Kansas City.
I like to go to 5 or 6 games a year.
I went to one game this year where I bought tickets for me and the future wifey. We spent $60. We got the cheapest parking (sometimes online you can get parking for like $8-10), the cheapest seats ($12 each) and each got a beer ($12 each).
We didn’t go to another game until I got free tickets with free parking toward the end of the season.
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But also Matheny was not a good hire. And Dayton pretending to have gone into this with an open mind is also funny.
I expect neither Matheny nor Dayton to be with the Royals after this season anyways though, so I could care less honestly.
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Why is everyone so against that Matheny hire? I do not really follow baseball nearly as close as other sports so I am just curious why the uproar over this… He did really well in STL winning .555 % of his games and went to a WS the year they lost Pujos. I was listening to Soren earlier today and his take was “what did you expect”??
@Kcmatt7 I agree on the pricing. I used to go to a lot of games and they were fun. I was lucky enough to go to a couple WS games in 2015, but after that run they raised prices on everything and its absurd what it cost to go and have a night out especially now with the product they are putting on the field.
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Basically, Matheny allowed veteran players to harass and haze younger players to an extent that he lost the clubhouse. On top of that, he was tactically poor as well.
https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/07/15/cardinals-fire-mike-matheny-tactical-errors-clubhouse
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2018/7/15/17573628/mike-matheny-fired-st-louis-cardinals-manager
Basically, Matheny is probably as questionable as Yost when it comes to tactics (maybe moreso), but he is also bad about building clubhouse dynamics, which Yost was excellent at.
For a team that will be bringing up a ton of young players that represent the future of the franchise to turn that process over to a guy that got fired from his last job for allowing veterans to bully younger players to the point that it divided his clubhouse is just absurd.
The Royals may have set themselves back 10 years with this move if Matheny ruins this group of prospects.
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Woodrow said:
Why is everyone so against that Matheny hire? I do not really follow baseball nearly as close as other sports so I am just curious why the uproar over this… He did really well in STL winning .555 % of his games and went to a WS the year they lost Pujos. I was listening to Soren earlier today and his take was “what did you expect”??
@Kcmatt7 I agree on the pricing. I used to go to a lot of games and they were fun. I was lucky enough to go to a couple WS games in 2015, but after that run they raised prices on everything and its absurd what it cost to go and have a night out especially now with the product they are putting on the field.
Here is a quote from a Ringer article about him:
“Matheny won despite being widely regarded as the league’s worst tactician.”
To top it off, he’s very “old school.” He wants a team that’s all gritty players. Which, typically aren’t going to be your 20-something-year old rookies who are trying to develop and are a bit in over their heads. He’s the type of guy manager that is going to mentally break some guys because he’s just an asshole.
Matheny could manage the Yankees to a WS and bring some toughness and an edge to a group like that. I think he’s probably great for a ball club right on the cusp that needs an identity. I do not think he is the right hire to develop a group of young players that will be mentally fragile during their first season or two.
But that’s my opinion. I really liked Grifol though too, so I’m probably biased just from that. He would have been my first choice by far.
