2021 Recruiting
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@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Coleman!!
(Also, chance we get Rogers yet tonight too)
what a huge get. Mad hatter and staff turning this around. - - I see we have picked up 2 CB’s for rogers one off 247 and 1 from TOS - -however don’t think we will see anything tonight. - -Have you heard anything on Rogers with us possibly ?
Yessir. Les still has it!
Don’t think it’ll be tonight now, but if he commits soon it’ll be to us. He and Dearmon are tight.
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Thanks to all who post here and follow the recruiting wars. But, may I suggest that you refrain from using pronouns, “he, him, etc.” I just scan your most recent posts and often can’t tell who you are discussing. I see that most of the pronouns are used in response to another post, but it would be appreciated if you would use names. Many thanks. Here’s to hoping we have football this fall.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Coleman!!
(Also, chance we get Rogers yet tonight too)
what a huge get. Mad hatter and staff turning this around. - - I see we have picked up 2 CB’s for rogers one off 247 and 1 from TOS - -however don’t think we will see anything tonight. - -Have you heard anything on Rogers with us possibly ?
Yessir. Les still has it!
Don’t think it’ll be tonight now, but if he commits soon it’ll be to us. He and Dearmon are tight.
Oh, Rogers and Dearman are pretty tight ? - -that would be sweet , again though NOW we have to hang onto these guys until December. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Just read where we ( KU ) cot another CB pick for D’Marion Alexander from China Texas. We lead pretty comfortably over TCU & Tech - -shows not interested in Minnesota - -would be another sweet pickup WDE right ? - -always use some rushers on the defensive front
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@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Just read where we ( KU ) cot another CB pick for D’Marion Alexander from China Texas. We lead pretty comfortably over TCU & Tech - -shows not interested in Minnesota - -would be another sweet pickup WDE right ? - -always use some rushers on the defensive front
Yep, after he decommitted from Minnesota we got on him hard. Alexander and Rogers #next
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Just read where we ( KU ) cot another CB pick for D’Marion Alexander from China Texas. We lead pretty comfortably over TCU & Tech - -shows not interested in Minnesota - -would be another sweet pickup WDE right ? - -always use some rushers on the defensive front
Yep, after he decommitted from Minnesota we got on him hard. Alexander and Rogers #next
THAT would be very nice. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Been picking up word that Devonte Wilson is going to be comMitting to KU this weekend , would be a nice addition - -if we could get him - - Alexander – & then land Rogers which I think would be huge , might be that QB to get us turned around and headed for more W’s would be a sweet Class. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well - DAM. -Landon Rogers - - -BACK to Arkansas , like others have said on this and others , it’s almost like KU is kryptonite School for a QB, we couldn’t land a QB if he landed in our laps right now.
Again like others have said maybe not here but seems to be a pretty popular idea going around right now being all thing Considered. - -Let Like Daniels go through his growing pains ride with him knowing he will be here for 4 years - -not really hardly any other options , we just can’t get any dam commit for our QB - -Sucks.
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CHEVIS FOR THE JUGULAR https://247sports.com/Player/Kameron-Grays-46097516/
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
CHEVIS FOR THE JUGULAR https://247sports.com/Player/Kameron-Grays-46097516/
Dam , & Dam again. Can I up vote your post a million times ? - -Not a Homer , a GRAND SLAM in my eyes. - -Big time Schools in on him. I’m telling you The Mad Hatter and Staff are getting these pieces in place. Really looks like big time working on getting these holes fixed on Defense - -I’m gonna say - - DAM one more time - - Hammer Time BABY. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Grays makes 17 counters for 21 (I think Jacobee Bryant is a greyshirt. He’s practicing but not on the roster). There are 23 total seniors, so we theoretically can add 6 more to the 21 group. If we add 1 more OL (makes 4), 2 more DL (3), a QB (2), an edge, and a best player available I say call it good.
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Landed OT Christien Hawks from lovely Norton, Kansas! I really like the kid. 4 sport athlete, hard worker, and from the good old MCL. Great pickup.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Landed OT Christien Hawks from lovely Norton, Kansas! I really like the kid. 4 sport athlete, hard worker, and from the good old MCL. Great pickup.
We have the makings of a really solid class , now we just have got to keep from a lot of defections. - -Dec 16th is still a long ways away. However wit this staff we have , I REALLY do feel like these kids are pretty solid with their pledges, I just think the type of kids this staff is recruiting really do want to play for the Mad Hatter and staff -you can see it coming , were going to get this turned around.
The group of the 2022 that we are in on are real solid - we just need to finalize the deal - -get some W’S on the field , the level of talent we are now getting is like and day between Beaty & Miles - -ROCK CHALK BABY
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Landed OT Christien Hawks from lovely Norton, Kansas! I really like the kid. 4 sport athlete, hard worker, and from the good old MCL. Great pickup.
I like his size. At 6-5, he has the frame to add the kind of weight necessary to play P5. He will probably need a redshirt year to put on that kind of size, but he could be a very nice five year player.
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Saw where we got another CB pick for Alexander today from a Oklahoma Insider - -kinda leary about TCU - -hope we can land this guy - -believe he is committing this coming Wednsday
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Farmer - -what’s happened to our commit today - - still nothing, was supose to happen today - - - D "Marion Alexander whats the deal ?
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@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
Farmer - -what’s happened to our commit today - - still nothing, was supose to happen today - - - D "Marion Alexander whats the deal ?
It’ll happen this evening.
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I like the fact that Alexander played WR and S as a sophomore. That means he can run and cover, which makes him a good fit as a LB in the Big 12 defending the spread. He’s also big enough that he can add 15-20 pounds and probably not lose anything in the speed and quickness department. He could be a star if he develops.
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Well we landed Tommy Dunn , be interesting where they play him. - -6"4 - - 285 , listed as a DE ,some think maybe NT - others think they may take some of the weight off and reshape add muscle and keep him as a Edge Rusher , I think decent pick up- - might surprise some people. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Another couple DB’s this week: James Wright and Shad Dabney. Really stocking up on guys because you might as well given there’s not really an 85 man cap next year.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Another couple DB’s this week: James Wright and Shad Dabney. Really stocking up on guys because you might as well given there’s not really an 85 man cap next year.
I could be wrong but looking like the guys are really hitting the defensive side of the ball hard - - DB’S Safty’s - -right ? - - fine with me
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@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Another couple DB’s this week: James Wright and Shad Dabney. Really stocking up on guys because you might as well given there’s not really an 85 man cap next year.
I could be wrong but looking like the guys are really hitting the defensive side of the ball hard - - DB’S Safty’s - -right ? - - fine with me
For sure. Still looking at adding another DB and DE as well. Then it’s probably best player available/QB.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Another couple DB’s this week: James Wright and Shad Dabney. Really stocking up on guys because you might as well given there’s not really an 85 man cap next year.
I could be wrong but looking like the guys are really hitting the defensive side of the ball hard - - DB’S Safty’s - -right ? - - fine with me
For sure. Still looking at adding another DB and DE as well. Then it’s probably best player available/QB.
that’s good to hear. Think they are doing a pretty good job trying to get this defense turned around.
You know & I know it’s Coach saying it but he says he actually believes the O-Line can be better then last years, they listed the hgt & wght of the guys - -got some pretty big boys , got guys that seen quality playing time last year. One kid is like the 6’8 and like 295 ?
Actually think the offensive skilled in really good shape , depth at running back - pretty good group of receivers. we just need that QB - been a sore spot the last 2-3 years , although Stanley did Adquate job - Man hope Easter or maybe the Freshman we have this year hopefully will be able to get a firm grip on that Position. - - I just feel we NOT that far from turning the corner on this dang thing. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Ok guys, not recruiting but a question on numbers. Going to show my lack of knowledge here so looking for help.
Ok I hear and fully believed we were really short in numbers yet when I look at our 20-21 roster , we total list of players of 118 kids. - -So how’s that if we are short?
Broke it down we have listed on roster : Red Shirt Freshmen ( 15 ) - - -Freshmen ( 39 )- - - Soph ( 16 )- - - Junior ( 22 )- - - Red Shirt Juniors ( 1 )- - Senior ( 24 ) - - - Red Shirt Senior ( 1 )
So with these numbers how are we short I know the answer is pretty simple some one please help set me straight.
One thing for sure I think you can sure see when the new staff came in -looks to me like w are really young- - 70 of the players listed are either Red Shirt Freshmen - - Freshmen - -or Soph’s - -that make a solid roster building bodies making men right ? - - thanks guys. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
so the other 35 are what then ? they having to pay to go to School no Scholi , or what bud ?
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@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
so the other 35 are what then ? they having to pay to go to School no Scholi , or what bud ?
Yeah, they’re walk-ons.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
so the other 35 are what then ? they having to pay to go to School no Scholi , or what bud ?
Yeah, they’re walk-ons.
Thank you so much buddy , I knew someone could set me straight on this - that’s why I love this site , someone doesn’t know the answer - -you’ll find one.
Hey on a seperate note , did you get a chance to watch Easters last night. - -I watched the whole game, gotta say pretty exciting High School game. - If you did, what did you think.
I think he has a fairly decent chance to be a pretty solid QB. - -looks to me like he throws a pretty decent deepball maybe a little more consistence, - -BUT he had a very nive 2nd half I think sure he has things to work on but nothing that can’t be fixed - - maybe making some better reads , looking of receives , and things, pretty confident Pro style QB right ?
The big thing is hanging on to him - -what did YOU think ?
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@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
so the other 35 are what then ? they having to pay to go to School no Scholi , or what bud ?
Yeah, they’re walk-ons.
Thank you so much buddy , I knew someone could set me straight on this - that’s why I love this site , someone doesn’t know the answer - -you’ll find one.
Hey on a seperate note , did you get a chance to watch Easters last night. - -I watched the whole game, gotta say pretty exciting High School game. - If you did, what did you think.
I think he has a fairly decent chance to be a pretty solid QB. - -looks to me like he throws a pretty decent deepball maybe a little more consistence, - -BUT he had a very nive 2nd half I think sure he has things to work on but nothing that can’t be fixed - - maybe making some better reads , looking of receives , and things, pretty confident Pro style QB right ?
The big thing is hanging on to him - -what did YOU think ?
No problem!
I watched the first half. He’s got a decent arm and good deep touch. I didn’t love his footwork or short accuracy. I think those are somewhat correctable. I think he’s solid on KU, but I don’t know if KU is solid on him. I think we’d take another QB in a heartbeat if there was another one out there. We tried to get Landon Rodgers a month or so ago before he committed again to Arkansas.
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This isn’t concerning our 2021 recruiting guys BUT is football related.
Kinda bummed today , confused/frustrated. This has to do with football & the COVID -19 BUT not College. It’s Kansas High School football.
I just want to voice my opinion/view and I could be wrong , I could be dead wrong and I can accept that. I myself am not saying that I’m100 % Right BUT.
OK, So I heard last night and then again this morning - - just another case with how the COVID-19 is affecting high school football here in Kansas. The KSHAA had been looking at making teams more their seasons to spring. Yet I think they left it to the individual districts. - - Well her it is , Wichita Schools had voted to Cancel all fall sports and play in the spring because of the COVID - - OK might be best.
Well- - - -guess what ? - -they overturned that decision and are NOW playing this fall. I MYSELF - - - think this could be a Big Mistake , a bad decision , might be like screwing with a keg of dynamite. - -This is where I could very well be wrong. But I just think they are messing with fire. with the COVID running so rampant.
They overturned their decision they said after 1000’s of E-mails and Messages from parents, kids and such almost demanding to let the kids play. - -I get it - -I really do , I can see their point. for some it’s their last year of high school ball - -the last chance for the parents to see their babies play - - -so I get it – BUT I also think it’s also kind of selfish on their part - - it only takes ONE - - -ONE positive test from a player and this thing will spread like wild fire , like that’s exactly what we need. - Again I could be wrong and it’s just that random though and opinion , there is no winner in this thing. - - Guess we just better hope this doesn’t backfire on these kids - -again it’s not all about just YOU. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Certainly an interesting finding. Nothing causal yet, but the association is eye-opening. Would like to see a control group of non-infected student athletes to get a baseline comparison.
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@FarmerJayhawk wow!
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@FarmerJayhawk another take
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk wow!
I’m just glad the numbers were much lower than they originally reported!
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Well little confused on this , not sure . - - 247 has 2 CB’S for us today on one has been listed as a CB & the other when you pull his profile list him as an Athlete.
That’s not what I’m confused on though. The player is Omarion Dicken a 6 ft like I said one has him as a CB , the other Athlete from Prescott Arizona - -thing is when you go to 247 CB’s - it shows for 2021 picks - - yet when you pull this kids profile up says he is 2022 so not sure is he 21 - or 22 ? Shows KU as warm all other schools cool.
KU , Colorado , Louisiana , Louisiana Tech , & Tulane -
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Keon Coleman decommitted. Which I guess isn’t all that surprising given our offensive (in both senses) showing so far.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Keon Coleman decommitted. Which I guess isn’t all that surprising given our offensive (in both senses) showing so far.
And so it begins - - -DAM
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Tough to convince guys that it’ll get better when you look this shitty. Not even a single thing positive to point at as far as I’m concerned.
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Ok this is primarily question for Farmer , another bud that follows the KU recruiting here in football pretty close or so it seems - - but anyone if they can help answer that would be awesome. - -Farmer so tell me what is this about the possibility of a late recruitment commit of a QB ?
Kids name is Conrad Hawley out of Peculiar Mo. - -I need your help breaking this kid down I follow recruiting pretty close but honestly I don’t see a lot of things that other could - - just not skilled enough to be able to tell yes or no.
Hope you can break this kid down for me Farmer, I’ll tell you what I DID see and see what you think OK : - - 1st thing i see is size 6’6 really good size for QB seems like even with our current QB - his height is a hinderence having a lot of passes batted back -Hawley being 6’6 seems like for sure wouldn’t have that problem.
2nd : Seems like he has decent mobility evading sacks , 3rd seems like he is pretty decent throwing on the run - -rollouts and such
4th thing I noticed seems like he can find his receivers pretty well no matter on the run or not pretty decent accuracy - - seems like he throws a decent to say the least deep ball on the run or sitting up. - -So now here is the question - - Am I just insanely off on the kid - -fairly close ? - -or am i just missing it on this kid ?
Ok Farmer or anyone feel free how do you break this kids techniques is he worth shot? - - guess we offered am I just totally off? - - As for me I kinda liked what I saw.
Also guess we offer a what they called ? A partial? - to the kid from Perry Lecompton - -William Welch. - -Anyone have opinion on him ? - - let me know what you think. – Thanks. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer67 I think you’re pretty much spot on, my man. There are some traits there to work with. Huge frame. Could easily add 20 pounds of good weight. That’ll help the arm strength. It gets there, but he tends to leave it high. I like the athleticism too. Shows some escapability. Not a guy that could probably play next year or even the year after, but he’s an intriguing prospect. I believe we could land him if we really push.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 I think you’re pretty much spot on, my man. There are some traits there to work with. Huge frame. Could easily add 20 pounds of good weight. That’ll help the arm strength. It gets there, but he tends to leave it high. I like the athleticism too. Shows some escapability. Not a guy that could probably play next year or even the year after, but he’s an intriguing prospect. I believe we could land him if we really push.
Thanks bud - -I think I would like to see them push. - -If nothing else would add i think some good competition next year - -who knows might surprise
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Christien Hawks decommitted. Rumor is we recruited over him.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Christien Hawks decommitted. Rumor is we recruited over him.
Announcement will be very soon from what I understand.
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Looks like we might be in good shape to pick up 2 nice additions. - -247 has CB picks for us today:
1st guy is Garfield Lawrence a 6’4 240 pound SDE from Tyler Texas we picked up 2 CB’S from 247 others on the list are Arkansas - - -Colorado - - Houston & K-state would be a very nice pick up - -number 505 in the Nation
The 2nd one is and we heard about him the other day: - -Conrad Hawley a 6’6 QB out of Peculiar Missouri picked up a CB from him would like him too.
Both were VIP Scoop picks so that would be some nice positive news. - -Hawley great size Pro style QB ^’^ has some nice touch - just won their State title - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Looks like we got them both. Mbow would be the last piece if we could flip him from (presumably) Purdue.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Looks like we got them both. Mbow would be the last piece if we could flip him from (presumably) Purdue.
that is nice - hadn’t heard Lawrence name mentioned before had you ? - -Sounds like he would be a very solid PU - -and the QB think can compete not to far down the line. - -you don’t think this effects Easters do you?
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Looks like we got them both. Mbow would be the last piece if we could flip him from (presumably) Purdue.
that is nice - hadn’t heard Lawrence name mentioned before had you ? - -Sounds like he would be a very solid PU - -and the QB think can compete not to far down the line. - -you don’t think this effects Easters do you?
Yeah, I honestly didn’t think they’d get him
. I think Hawley and Easters will compete once they’re here. Sounds like they’re just throwing numbers at QB until they find a couple they like.
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Which, if we get 2/3 of them, we should end up 7th or 8th in the league. Really nice work.
