2021 Recruiting
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Ok guys, not recruiting but a question on numbers. Going to show my lack of knowledge here so looking for help.
Ok I hear and fully believed we were really short in numbers yet when I look at our 20-21 roster , we total list of players of 118 kids. - -So how’s that if we are short?
Broke it down we have listed on roster : Red Shirt Freshmen ( 15 ) - - -Freshmen ( 39 )- - - Soph ( 16 )- - - Junior ( 22 )- - - Red Shirt Juniors ( 1 )- - Senior ( 24 ) - - - Red Shirt Senior ( 1 )
So with these numbers how are we short I know the answer is pretty simple some one please help set me straight.
One thing for sure I think you can sure see when the new staff came in -looks to me like w are really young- - 70 of the players listed are either Red Shirt Freshmen - - Freshmen - -or Soph’s - -that make a solid roster building bodies making men right ? - - thanks guys. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
so the other 35 are what then ? they having to pay to go to School no Scholi , or what bud ?
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@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
so the other 35 are what then ? they having to pay to go to School no Scholi , or what bud ?
Yeah, they’re walk-ons.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
so the other 35 are what then ? they having to pay to go to School no Scholi , or what bud ?
Yeah, they’re walk-ons.
Thank you so much buddy , I knew someone could set me straight on this - that’s why I love this site , someone doesn’t know the answer - -you’ll find one.
Hey on a seperate note , did you get a chance to watch Easters last night. - -I watched the whole game, gotta say pretty exciting High School game. - If you did, what did you think.
I think he has a fairly decent chance to be a pretty solid QB. - -looks to me like he throws a pretty decent deepball maybe a little more consistence, - -BUT he had a very nive 2nd half I think sure he has things to work on but nothing that can’t be fixed - - maybe making some better reads , looking of receives , and things, pretty confident Pro style QB right ?
The big thing is hanging on to him - -what did YOU think ?
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@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayhawkblue73 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Only around 80 are on scholarship and there’s some pretty significant class imbalance. I broke some of it down in more detail in the state of the roster thread
so the other 35 are what then ? they having to pay to go to School no Scholi , or what bud ?
Yeah, they’re walk-ons.
Thank you so much buddy , I knew someone could set me straight on this - that’s why I love this site , someone doesn’t know the answer - -you’ll find one.
Hey on a seperate note , did you get a chance to watch Easters last night. - -I watched the whole game, gotta say pretty exciting High School game. - If you did, what did you think.
I think he has a fairly decent chance to be a pretty solid QB. - -looks to me like he throws a pretty decent deepball maybe a little more consistence, - -BUT he had a very nive 2nd half I think sure he has things to work on but nothing that can’t be fixed - - maybe making some better reads , looking of receives , and things, pretty confident Pro style QB right ?
The big thing is hanging on to him - -what did YOU think ?
No problem!
I watched the first half. He’s got a decent arm and good deep touch. I didn’t love his footwork or short accuracy. I think those are somewhat correctable. I think he’s solid on KU, but I don’t know if KU is solid on him. I think we’d take another QB in a heartbeat if there was another one out there. We tried to get Landon Rodgers a month or so ago before he committed again to Arkansas.
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This isn’t concerning our 2021 recruiting guys BUT is football related.
Kinda bummed today , confused/frustrated. This has to do with football & the COVID -19 BUT not College. It’s Kansas High School football.
I just want to voice my opinion/view and I could be wrong , I could be dead wrong and I can accept that. I myself am not saying that I’m100 % Right BUT.
OK, So I heard last night and then again this morning - - just another case with how the COVID-19 is affecting high school football here in Kansas. The KSHAA had been looking at making teams more their seasons to spring. Yet I think they left it to the individual districts. - - Well her it is , Wichita Schools had voted to Cancel all fall sports and play in the spring because of the COVID - - OK might be best.
Well- - - -guess what ? - -they overturned that decision and are NOW playing this fall. I MYSELF - - - think this could be a Big Mistake , a bad decision , might be like screwing with a keg of dynamite. - -This is where I could very well be wrong. But I just think they are messing with fire. with the COVID running so rampant.
They overturned their decision they said after 1000’s of E-mails and Messages from parents, kids and such almost demanding to let the kids play. - -I get it - -I really do , I can see their point. for some it’s their last year of high school ball - -the last chance for the parents to see their babies play - - -so I get it – BUT I also think it’s also kind of selfish on their part - - it only takes ONE - - -ONE positive test from a player and this thing will spread like wild fire , like that’s exactly what we need. - Again I could be wrong and it’s just that random though and opinion , there is no winner in this thing. - - Guess we just better hope this doesn’t backfire on these kids - -again it’s not all about just YOU. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Certainly an interesting finding. Nothing causal yet, but the association is eye-opening. Would like to see a control group of non-infected student athletes to get a baseline comparison.
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@FarmerJayhawk wow!
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@FarmerJayhawk another take
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk wow!
I’m just glad the numbers were much lower than they originally reported!
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Well little confused on this , not sure . - - 247 has 2 CB’S for us today on one has been listed as a CB & the other when you pull his profile list him as an Athlete.
That’s not what I’m confused on though. The player is Omarion Dicken a 6 ft like I said one has him as a CB , the other Athlete from Prescott Arizona - -thing is when you go to 247 CB’s - it shows for 2021 picks - - yet when you pull this kids profile up says he is 2022 so not sure is he 21 - or 22 ? Shows KU as warm all other schools cool.
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Keon Coleman decommitted. Which I guess isn’t all that surprising given our offensive (in both senses) showing so far.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Keon Coleman decommitted. Which I guess isn’t all that surprising given our offensive (in both senses) showing so far.
And so it begins - - -DAM
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Tough to convince guys that it’ll get better when you look this shitty. Not even a single thing positive to point at as far as I’m concerned.
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Ok this is primarily question for Farmer , another bud that follows the KU recruiting here in football pretty close or so it seems - - but anyone if they can help answer that would be awesome. - -Farmer so tell me what is this about the possibility of a late recruitment commit of a QB ?
Kids name is Conrad Hawley out of Peculiar Mo. - -I need your help breaking this kid down I follow recruiting pretty close but honestly I don’t see a lot of things that other could - - just not skilled enough to be able to tell yes or no.
Hope you can break this kid down for me Farmer, I’ll tell you what I DID see and see what you think OK : - - 1st thing i see is size 6’6 really good size for QB seems like even with our current QB - his height is a hinderence having a lot of passes batted back -Hawley being 6’6 seems like for sure wouldn’t have that problem.
2nd : Seems like he has decent mobility evading sacks , 3rd seems like he is pretty decent throwing on the run - -rollouts and such
4th thing I noticed seems like he can find his receivers pretty well no matter on the run or not pretty decent accuracy - - seems like he throws a decent to say the least deep ball on the run or sitting up. - -So now here is the question - - Am I just insanely off on the kid - -fairly close ? - -or am i just missing it on this kid ?
Ok Farmer or anyone feel free how do you break this kids techniques is he worth shot? - - guess we offered am I just totally off? - - As for me I kinda liked what I saw.
Also guess we offer a what they called ? A partial? - to the kid from Perry Lecompton - -William Welch. - -Anyone have opinion on him ? - - let me know what you think. – Thanks. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer67 I think you’re pretty much spot on, my man. There are some traits there to work with. Huge frame. Could easily add 20 pounds of good weight. That’ll help the arm strength. It gets there, but he tends to leave it high. I like the athleticism too. Shows some escapability. Not a guy that could probably play next year or even the year after, but he’s an intriguing prospect. I believe we could land him if we really push.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 I think you’re pretty much spot on, my man. There are some traits there to work with. Huge frame. Could easily add 20 pounds of good weight. That’ll help the arm strength. It gets there, but he tends to leave it high. I like the athleticism too. Shows some escapability. Not a guy that could probably play next year or even the year after, but he’s an intriguing prospect. I believe we could land him if we really push.
Thanks bud - -I think I would like to see them push. - -If nothing else would add i think some good competition next year - -who knows might surprise
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Christien Hawks decommitted. Rumor is we recruited over him.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Christien Hawks decommitted. Rumor is we recruited over him.
Announcement will be very soon from what I understand.
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Looks like we might be in good shape to pick up 2 nice additions. - -247 has CB picks for us today:
1st guy is Garfield Lawrence a 6’4 240 pound SDE from Tyler Texas we picked up 2 CB’S from 247 others on the list are Arkansas - - -Colorado - - Houston & K-state would be a very nice pick up - -number 505 in the Nation
The 2nd one is and we heard about him the other day: - -Conrad Hawley a 6’6 QB out of Peculiar Missouri picked up a CB from him would like him too.
Both were VIP Scoop picks so that would be some nice positive news. - -Hawley great size Pro style QB ^’^ has some nice touch - just won their State title - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Looks like we got them both. Mbow would be the last piece if we could flip him from (presumably) Purdue.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Looks like we got them both. Mbow would be the last piece if we could flip him from (presumably) Purdue.
that is nice - hadn’t heard Lawrence name mentioned before had you ? - -Sounds like he would be a very solid PU - -and the QB think can compete not to far down the line. - -you don’t think this effects Easters do you?
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Looks like we got them both. Mbow would be the last piece if we could flip him from (presumably) Purdue.
that is nice - hadn’t heard Lawrence name mentioned before had you ? - -Sounds like he would be a very solid PU - -and the QB think can compete not to far down the line. - -you don’t think this effects Easters do you?
Yeah, I honestly didn’t think they’d get him
. I think Hawley and Easters will compete once they’re here. Sounds like they’re just throwing numbers at QB until they find a couple they like.
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Which, if we get 2/3 of them, we should end up 7th or 8th in the league. Really nice work.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Which, if we get 2/3 of them, we should end up 7th or 8th in the league. Really nice work.
Considering how the team has been complete ass, it’s a remarkable effort. Things need to turn around though.
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Lawrence officially in the boat.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Lawrence officially in the boat.
that’s a big get, when did that happen ? just within the hour ? - -now get the QB
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Lawrence officially in the boat.
that’s a big get, when did that happen ? just within the hour ? - -now get the QB
Yeah, around noon or so
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One name to keep in mind. Jace Ruder, current RS Soph at UNC is likely transferring. Why should we care? Well, Jace is from Norton, Kansas (very much FarmerJayhawk territory) and I’ve been hearing rumors from around the Mid-Continent League that our boy is coming home because he misses wearing blue. And he got recruited over. Twice. But it doesn’t matter. I’d look for him to be a Jayhawk if we can open a spot this spring. If it means asking Easters to blue, I’m all for it. If he doesn’t take it, we’ll still have two true freshmen next year (Daniels and Easters). Comes from a great family of diehard Jayhawk fans.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
One name to keep in mind. Jace Ruder, current RS Soph at UNC is likely transferring. Why should we care? Well, Jace is from Norton, Kansas (very much FarmerJayhawk territory) and I’ve been hearing rumors from around the Mid-Continent League that our boy is coming home because he misses wearing blue. And he got recruited over. Twice. But it doesn’t matter. I’d look for him to be a Jayhawk if we can open a spot this spring. If it means asking Easters to blue, I’m all for it. If he doesn’t take it, we’ll still have two true freshmen next year (Daniels and Easters). Comes from a great family of diehard Jayhawk fans.
That would be good. On another note another QB that’s been mentioned is Hawley - -have you heard anymore on him ? - - 6’6 hard to replace length looks like he has nice touch. You think there is Any shot ?
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@jayballer67 KU is currently the favorite.
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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 KU is currently the favorite.
oh decisions , decisions lol. – on TOS alot of people saying things like they would want Jace cause something about redshirttransfer or what eve. - -if he did come means we could have - Easters , Daniels - - Jace & possibly Hawley - -might be to many
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 KU is currently the favorite.
oh decisions , decisions lol. – on TOS alot of people saying things like they would want Jace cause something about redshirttransfer or what eve. - -if he did come means we could have - Easters , Daniels - - Jace & possibly Hawley - -might be to many
Can never have too many QB’s. At worst you get one transfer if he can’t get above a backup role.
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Update: can confirm Jace is transferring and graduating in December. Quite impressive to finish a BBA from Kenan-Flagler in 2.5 years. Also, will have 4 years of eligibility. Hit the RS trifecta: normal, medical, covid.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Update: can confirm Jace is transferring and graduating in December. Quite impressive to finish a BBA from Kenan-Flagler in 2.5 years. Also, will have 4 years of eligibility. Hit the RS trifecta: normal, medical, covid.
So you think he comes? - - yes or no ?
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Update: can confirm Jace is transferring and graduating in December. Quite impressive to finish a BBA from Kenan-Flagler in 2.5 years. Also, will have 4 years of eligibility. Hit the RS trifecta: normal, medical, covid.
If he does transfer and goes anywhere but KU that is going to be a big kick in the junk. I am not saying he would be a savior but he is better than anyone on the roster and could be much more.
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Update: can confirm Jace is transferring and graduating in December. Quite impressive to finish a BBA from Kenan-Flagler in 2.5 years. Also, will have 4 years of eligibility. Hit the RS trifecta: normal, medical, covid.
So you think he comes? - - yes or no ?
Idk if we’ll land him but I think we’ll be heavily involved. He wants his MBA and KU’s b school is legit. Plus, big KU family. Beaty royally screwed up there and Les and co. will have to do some repair work.
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So I guess my question now becomes , I saw/read that Hawley is holding off and will not be committing in the early period. - - My question is concerning KU and with us getting CB’ do you think he picked up on the fact that we might be having other QB’S commit such as the North Carolina kid/Jace ? - -or considering us and then saw off TOS that there was a QB possibly rumor going to be visiting this weekend - - do you think it might make Hawley cool off - IF he was seriously considering us ?
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
So I guess my question now becomes , I saw/read that Hawley is holding off and will not be committing in the early period. - - My question is concerning KU and with us getting CB’ do you think he picked up on the fact that we might be having other QB’S commit such as the North Carolina kid/Jace ? - -or considering us and then saw off TOS that there was a QB possibly rumor going to be visiting this weekend - - do you think it might make Hawley cool off - IF he was seriously considering us ?
I think he’s just waiting to see how things play out. If we take a transfer QB in January, I think that probably means we wouldn’t take 3 QB’s in the class. We may offer a grayshirt or something but I think he’s going to have better opportunities than that.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
So I guess my question now becomes , I saw/read that Hawley is holding off and will not be committing in the early period. - - My question is concerning KU and with us getting CB’ do you think he picked up on the fact that we might be having other QB’S commit such as the North Carolina kid/Jace ? - -or considering us and then saw off TOS that there was a QB possibly rumor going to be visiting this weekend - - do you think it might make Hawley cool off - IF he was seriously considering us ?
I think he’s just waiting to see how things play out. If we take a transfer QB in January, I think that probably means we wouldn’t take 3 QB’s in the class. We may offer a grayshirt or something but I think he’s going to have better opportunities than that.
Is January the early signing date this year for the football ?
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Recruiting:
So I guess my question now becomes , I saw/read that Hawley is holding off and will not be committing in the early period. - - My question is concerning KU and with us getting CB’ do you think he picked up on the fact that we might be having other QB’S commit such as the North Carolina kid/Jace ? - -or considering us and then saw off TOS that there was a QB possibly rumor going to be visiting this weekend - - do you think it might make Hawley cool off - IF he was seriously considering us ?
I think he’s just waiting to see how things play out. If we take a transfer QB in January, I think that probably means we wouldn’t take 3 QB’s in the class. We may offer a grayshirt or something but I think he’s going to have better opportunities than that.
Is January the early signing date this year for the football ?
It’s in mid-December like normal. But a transfer QB could just show up and not sign a LOI
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Signing period starts next Wednesday. I expect 21ish signees. Only guy not currently committed but I do expect to sign is De’Kedrick Sterns. The huge nugget is about 8 will join in January.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
Signing period starts next Wednesday. I expect 21ish signees. Only guy not currently committed but I do expect to sign is De’Kedrick Sterns. The huge nugget is about 8 will join in January.
Ben Easters coming in Early - -I’m kind of looking for a surprise , just get a gut feel someone we as John Q Public rally has little info on right now that the staff is gonna pop on us - just a gut feel
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Well that’s good news . - - We got De’Kedrick Sterns back. – -Said he WLL be signing early and enrolling early will be here in Jan. - Has added some weight up to 280.
Kid is a big get for us. Said one reason he had de-committed was the firing of Meadows , and the statement pertains to what I’ve been saying about ALL our coach’s
He said they fired Meadows and he was like man I don’t want to go to a school and not know who I’m going to be playing for in 2-3 years. - - You just can’t keep a wide open revolving door with Coachs - -you will NEVER get any kind of continuity - Goes for ALL our Coach’s
People think simple solution - -oh fire the Coach every 2 years or so, no recruit is going to walk into a situation with a history like that - -alot of kids commit to the Coach not necessarily the School. - -Any ways glad he is back use all these kind of guys w can get got a real chance to contribute immediately/ - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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well 9 confirmed so far and signed. - One thing I noticed. Majik Rector was like the 1st one to verbal coming into this year and now signed, give the kid credit verballed along time ago and stuck with it. - - I have to like a kid like this now days the way things go with kids. - -I know not sure if he will see the field much at leaast early but still have to like kids that make a decision and stik with that decision. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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19+ are signing early. Grays is my only maybe at this point. Lawrence is signing late. Also, might be a surprise later in the week…
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:
19+ are signing early. Grays is my only maybe at this point. Lawrence is signing late. Also, might be a surprise later in the week…
just read from TOS - - one of the top recruits is waiting, gonna visit the University in Jan, Neal I guess is going or suppose to sign at 4.- -we got 9 right off the bat & now there has been nothing for some time.
