Combine Invites
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@Kcmatt7 why not both?
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I have no idea who is better. I just know OAD’s disappoint here.
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I don’t think he wants to be here, so weird! If a nba guy thinks he did well today, d dot should go first round!
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Really want Dotson back. Would actually be a little let down if Grimes comes back to clutter up the court again after what he showed us last season.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
D dot doing well in game
Not that I want him to do poorly, but …
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@HighEliteMajor he did miss 2 threes after that, probably his downfall.
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I kinda want to post this in two threads since it came up twice but I picked this one…
Anyway, Dotson’s (lack of) height should keep him at KU for one more year.
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BShark said:
I kinda want to post this in two threads since it came up twice but I picked this one…
Anyway, Dotson’s (lack of) height should keep him at KU for one more year.
An NBA scout listed that in his Negatives , that an how he needs to reduce his TO’S - get’s sped up - - foul prone - -and be able to create his own shot- he will be back
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@BShark so he’s going to grow in a year?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark so he’s going to grow in a year?
️Lol. He’s just gonna go anyway, if he doesn’t now…
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justanotherfan said:
Other notes from physical testing:
Dotson has the fastest lane shuttle so far (2.8 seconds). His standing vertical and max vert (30 and 38.5 inches) are very solid for a guy his size.
Grimes did not do well in the leaping department. A disappointing 27.5 in the standing vert, and just 36 in the max. Grimes has not run yet.
Compare that to National POY Frank Mason’s 41 inch vert who went second round … If Dotson legit wants to go, would he be fine leaving as a second rounder?
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Not sure of Frank’s shuttle.
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This is what pisses me off about KUBuckets. The other day someone said Grimes is gone, like it was a fact. I thought it was true. Now I’m reading here about Grimes could be back. Knock it off people! Stop acting like know it alls and stating your wild speculations as fact. I’m sure it happens at other sites, but I don’t read other sites. This is where I get my KU news. I don’t go wandering through social media and a zillion other sites like some of ya’ll which is fine. But stop making these statements. If Grimes does come back he’s the second player to come back that I’ve read on these pages, Doke being the other.
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@wissox fwiw all the media pundits thought and reported as if Grimes was gone. All of them. This is a complete change of heart (speculation alert) likely based upon poor feedback at the combine. ie he’s , not that great of a shot, and fat.
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@dylans That only makes me feel slightly better
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dylans said:
@wissox fwiw all the media pundits thought and reported as if Grimes was gone. All of them. This is a complete change of heart (speculation alert) likely based upon poor feedback at the combine. ie he’s , not that great of a shot, and fat.
very true buddy - it’s not only people here on Buckets saying that he was gone - -It’s everyone outside of KU buckets saying he is gone - Quentin himself - -is the one saying he is leaving that option open. - Like you said - - probably because of poor feed back. - -I for one would rather him not come back – - but don’t be pissed at everyone here because of that - just saying what’s been reported plain and simple
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wissox said:
This is what pisses me off about KUBuckets. The other day someone said Grimes is gone, like it was a fact. I thought it was true. Now I’m reading here about Grimes could be back. Knock it off people! Stop acting like know it alls and stating your wild speculations as fact. I’m sure it happens at other sites, but I don’t read other sites. This is where I get my KU news. I don’t go wandering through social media and a zillion other sites like some of ya’ll which is fine. But stop making these statements. If Grimes does come back he’s the second player to come back that I’ve read on these pages, Doke being the other.
This post pisses me the F off.
If you don’t appreciate people sharing the information they’re hearing (often from good sources) than what is even the point of this board? Especially during the offseason.
They’re posting this stuff for YOUR BENEFIT, NOT THEIRS. Very rarely is anything posted here “WILD SPECULATION.”
This board is not tailored to you.
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@Kcmatt7 You’re easily angered.
@wissox Just think of it this way – this is not a news site. This is a opinion site. Just recalibrate expectations. Now, of course, you can take my word as the gospel moving forward. No problem there.
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@Kcmatt7 I didn’t know I’d anger so many. Sorry. “Doke is gone” I read. “Grimes is gone”. No disclaimer that it was anyones opinion, just stated as fact. The other day it and the ensuing comments acted as if something had been decided. Why not put the disclaimer in there? I don’t follow as closely as others. I just like to know something that is stated as factual is factual. Until I read comments this morning that Grimes was still weighing his decision, I was under the impression he was officially gone. I didn’t shed a tear the other day when I read that the other day FWIW.
By the way, Self is gone to coach the Trans-Siberian Womens Olympic development team.
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I almost always to preface things by saying whether it’s just my opinion or things people around the program or people with connections to the program have told me. I can draft a disclaimer and have you sign it if that would make you feel better?
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I get your frustration, but no matter what news source you could have checked over the last six weeks, you would have gotten the same story - Grimes is gone. I’m not even really sure how much traction the “Grimes could be back” story really has, but that may be because I already accepted that he was gone, which every credible report until this week would have told you.
The trouble with stay/go and recruiting is that 100% of the reporting is based on rumors and speculation. There’s just not a lot of 100% solid information. A student athlete says something, then everyone analyzes it. Their dad wears an orange shirt - they must like Texas. Mom wears blue the next day - looks like Duke is in the mix. They order biscuits and gravy for breakfast, must like the SEC schools. Its all rampant speculation based on random facts that may not even mean anything.
I follow recruiting the same way I follow politics - ignore the pundits and talking heads. Pay attention only to what the person says or does. If they say they enjoyed their visit to KU, it means exactly that. They enjoyed their visit. It doesn’t mean they are ready to commit. It just means they had a good time over the weekend. That’s better than having a terrible time, but they might have also had good visits at their other schools.
Until Grimes says something more, I am going to presume that he is going to stay in the draft. Things could change. There could be injuries, subpar performance, breakouts, whatever. But Grimes is in right now, and my guess is that he will stay in until he says he isn’t.
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Disclaimer - - -Disclaimer – Disclaimer ! ! ! - -just so people know - not sure about this - -just passing along from dreaded Social media - -BUT word is - - NOT ME - - Social Media covering the NBA Combine said:
Ok with that out of the way - -they said – Devon Dotson says it may be May 29th before he can make the decision on whether it stays in the draft - - or comes back - -he stays in would be a huge blow
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@wissox Grimes didn’t announce his intention to “test the waters” like Dotson did. He just announced he was gone to the NBA draft. Dotson left the door open to come back with Coach, and the media, unlike Grimes. So, Grimes floating a comeback to KU is truly a surprise. If Doke had been healthy enough to go to the combine this year, I don’t think he would’ve come back to KU. He went to the combine the year before. We’re talking about 20 year old kids here, and we can only go on what they tell us. They change their minds like…20 year old kids.
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Doesn’t mean he will come back to KU but holy smokes Grimes’ combine measurements are all terrible.
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@BShark I was shocked they thought he played good the first game
but what the heck about him saying he only showed 50% of what he could do at KU? Did I hear that right? I don’t think he’s very smart and I’m pretty sure from pics, they are not needy. I hate saying that too!
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The thing that is starting to make me worry some now is Devon is showing in the combine , pretty solid - - although before they said he wasn’t even in the top 2 rounds. - I think no matter how he ends up , strong show and all it’s not good enough to get him even into a latte 1srt round. Plus he still has the weakness that NBA listed that he needs to come back and work on.
They stated Devon recorded in the top 5 in the 3/4 sprint at 3.14 sec - -and hit just shy of 60% of various 3 pt shots - and he had 5-8 from 2pt - - - had 9 assists - - - 6 rebounds - - - a Block in 22 minutes. - -That’s a pretty solid line in 22 minutes of play - - I think this line was against the team Quentin was playing on. - -had 2 pretty solid outings - -that’s what kind of scares me. - -but hopefully he will come back - -work on those weakness – like I said after next year he comes back – ALL bets are off. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/
Didn’t know where to post this, but here is CBS Sports post combine prospect rankings. Dotson is at 73 so that should tell you all you need to know about him coming back.
Dedric @ 48 Grimes @ 67
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Woodrow said:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/
Didn’t know where to post this, but here is CBS Sports post combine prospect rankings. Dotson is at 73 so that should tell you all you need to know about him coming back.
Dedric @ 48 Grimes @ 67
SOUNDS BAD - - SOUNDS GREEDY - -but I’m glad to see Devon ranked there for this year - - come on back buddy - sorry shouldn’t feel that way - -just can’t help it - -" FAMILY "
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I’m surprised he’s lowest of the 3, I thought I knew much more than the experts!
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
I’m surprised he’s lowest of the 3, I thought I knew much more than the experts!
️Anyone with Grimes ahead of Dotson is doing so off HS pedigree.
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@BShark well Grimes is big and does have a nice smile…
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@Kcmatt7 Even the sages of old got it wrong from time to time… Like the time that the wicked, old one-eyed witch told the Emperor that Carthage couldn’t possibly sack Rome, which is exactly what Hannibal the Carthaginian did by way of taking hordes of big tusked elephants over the alps… They weren’t able to hold it for long but it was a good idea… We are the modern-day sages, offering insight so that you might one day have a chance at being one yourself… I think RJ and Wilson are both coming to KU, couple them Enaruna, McBride and Braun and you have yourself a top five class.
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Hope this guy comes back.
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Guess we are going to have to wait until the last seconds with Dotson. I kind of thought we would have heard something by now. I assume all workouts are over .
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I was hoping he would announce before RJ. I doubt we’ll hear anything today but maybe.
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I’m kinda over kids who don’t want to be at KU. F’em. If he shows up KU will be better (and he will play hard), but DeVonte declaring he would skip the combine and return to KU was the coolest thing I can think of. Wish we could get that kind of commitment out of another player of that caliber.
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@Woodrow - what I’ve seen says D Dot was spending Tuesday talking it over with family. He’ll announce Wednesday at some point. Deadline is 10:59 pm CDT.
Silence from Q’s camp…
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dylans said:
I’m kinda over kids who don’t want to be at KU. F’em. If he shows up KU will be better (and he will play hard), but DeVonte declaring he would skip the combine and return to KU was the coolest thing I can think of. Wish we could get that kind of commitment out of another player of that caliber.
Pretty rare.
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@BShark sets the bar pretty darn high.
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dylans said:
I’m kinda over kids who don’t want to be at KU. F’em. If he shows up KU will be better (and he will play hard), but DeVonte declaring he would skip the combine and return to KU was the coolest thing I can think of. Wish we could get that kind of commitment out of another player of that caliber.
There is a bit of fallacy in thought I’ve seen here a few times. That somehow the college game can’t survive without the kids that that don’t care about college basketball. That somehow CBB needs to restructure to try to entice and ensnare the top end talent.
Screw that. CBB isn’t about RJ Hampton, or Andrew Wiggins, or you name the presumed OAD.
CBB is about the school, the alumni, the tie to a program. The uniform is more important than the person occupying it.
The RJ Hampton should be able to play an make money. I actually applaud his decision.
The issue continues to be folks wanting to change CBB so that the RJ Hampton’s of the world can be accommodated (paid). But that’s a mindset that applies to all aspects of life.
The better path is for CBB to retrench and be CBB. Not a quasi-pro league.
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Dedric wasn’t listed in the latest mock draft by ESPN. Certainly seems like his stock has dipped since going through the combine again…
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wissox said:
By the way, Self is gone to coach the Trans-Siberian Womens Olympic development team.
Do they have a big who can shoot free throws ??
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@HighEliteMajor you’re describing something that already exists, women’s college basketball. Those women are fundamentally sound and run program ball. I watch men’s b-ball to see freak athletes try and fit into a system before they are allowed to do whatever they want in the nba (iso heavy).
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@dylans Women’s college BB is a different, significantly inferior game. It’s really a different sport. I didn’t realize that’s why a KU fan would would watch men’s college BB.
