Official Player Declarations Thread
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@BigBad I could be way wrong on this, I’ve been wrong before. I never perceived that his problem was anything physical - looked like he had what it takes to play the game.
But he just never looked “all there” to me. Like he was thinking about his girlfriend, or what to post on facebook, or what was for dinner that evening. Just always seemed like he wasn’t mentally prepared.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@dylans no what?
You are truly blessed if you haven’t heard and I won’t be the one to tell you. Wait! I mean the saying!!! Nothing more, please don’t read into this. You’re beautiful human being. Yikes. I’m done.
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Devon Dotson declares with an agent. We will see whether he returns
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If Dotson is gone, yea, we’re going to struggle. I don’t think he is though.
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WOOF
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BShark said:
WOOF
Come on down RJ Hamp, oh wait probably go to Memphis followed by Duke, followed by some random team not recruiting him with cash
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His comment said he was keeping full ncaa eligibility so I would not say he was gone quite this quick. I would say he was doing the smart thing personally.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Yep. Sure sounds like he’s done at KU forever and ever. /s
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
WOOF
Come on down RJ Hamp, oh wait probably go to Memphis followed by Duke, followed by some random team not recruiting him with cash
I Just said the same thing. – If Devon does well enough in the NBA combine nd decides to stay in - -with him and Grimes both gone - leaves the door WIDE OPEN for Hampton to step right in - - major minutes. - Only thing is he said he would love to play with other elite talent? - - - - must be talking about mitch - -lmao - -but wait Mitch going to be playing point next year - -Garrett playing the 2 - -where would we play him lmao
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After seeing this - - wouldn’t surprise me at all - - Ochai see’s what’s returning and HE declares for the NBA - I mean hell why not? - -heard the trainer is declaring for the NBA might as well lol
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Hearing breaking news just now.
KU ball boy John Doe declares for NBA draft with intent to sign an agent.
When asked why he is forgoing his NCAA Eligibility with 3 years left, John cited KU’s 2018 2019 struggles with shooting the ball.
“Too much work tracking down missed shots this year”. " In the NBA These guys make shots at a higher rate and I think I’ll able to score a few autographs over time".
" great opportunity for the kid" was Self’s comment when we caught up with him outside Allen Fieldhouse.
Self was confident his program could absorb the loss citing the ever growing transfer market these days. " we will get a few real guys in here".
John was asked where he’d like to play, saying “LA of course, Lebron is out there, they tryin to get AD and some others”. Magic is gone, Walton is gone but they will rebound.
John thanked KU for his time as a Jayhawk, “God put me in a great position to have a successful career and of course Bill Self, a Hall of Fame coach has put me in the best position possible as well”. “Look at all the guys in the league”
John becomes the 18th program member to leave since the shocking 2nd round defeat against Auburn in the NCAA tournament. Currently KU has just two recruits signed for the 2019 2020 season. Self mentioned they are busy on the recruiting trail this time of year.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Hearing breaking news just now.
KU ball boy John Doe declares for NBA draft with intent to sign an agent.
When asked why he is forgoing his NCAA Eligibility with 3 years left, John cited KU’s 2018 2019 struggles with shooting the ball.
“Too much work tracking down missed shots this year”. " In the NBA These guys make shots at a higher rate and I think ill able to score a few autographs over time".
" great opportunity for the kid" was Self’s comment when we caught up with him outside Allen Fieldhouse.
Self was confident his program could absorb the loss citing the ever growing transfer market these days. " we will get a few real guys in here".
John was asked where he’d like to play, saying “LA of course, Lebron is out there, they tryin to get AD and some others”. Magic is gone, Walton is gone but they will rebound.
John thanked KU for his time as a Jayhawk, “God put me in a great position to have a successful career and of course Bill Self, a Hall of Fame coach has put me in the best position possible.”
John becomes the 18th program member to leave since the shocking 2nd round defeat against Auburn in the NCAA tournament. Currently KU has just two recruits signed for the 2019 2020 season. Self mentioned they are busy on the recruiting trail this time of year
Dam you beat me to the punch - -I said the Trainer going to declare. - like I said wouldn’t surprise me - Ochai see’s who is returning and HE declares - wouldn’t surprise me at all
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@jayballer73 , @BeddieKU23 - Any rumors on the guys selling soft drinks and food? You guys are hilarious!!
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Gorilla72 said:
@jayballer73 , @BeddieKU23 - Any rumors on the guys selling soft drinks and food? You guys are hilarious!!
lmao - - not yet - - -stand by - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Good stuff!
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Yep. Sure sounds like he’s done at KU forever and ever. /s
You about gave me a heart attack. I thought a new statement had been released.
I need a sarcasm font.
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dylans said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Yep. Sure sounds like he’s done at KU forever and ever. /s
You about gave me a heart attack. I thought a new statement had been released.
I need a sarcasm font.
I tried with the /s man!!
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Welcome to Kansas.
Where you dont even need to play to declare for the draft.
http://m.kusports.com/news/2019/apr/15/ku-sophomore-silvio-de-sousa-facing-potentially-im/
All out redicilous
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@BeddieKU23 Are you referring Grimes? Hold on, I’m being told Grimes actually DID play this past season.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@BeddieKU23 Are you referring Grimes? Hold on, I’m being told Grimes actually DID play this past season.
I can confirm he played, he just didn’t play very well.
I guess when you play at KU now your so famous and good playing in games isn’t even required to try and make the NBA
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BeddieKU23 said:
Welcome to Kansas.
Where you dont even need to play to declare for the draft.
http://m.kusports.com/news/2019/apr/15/ku-sophomore-silvio-de-sousa-facing-potentially-im/
All out redicilous
Do you blame him? Might as well go through the process while the NCAA decides whether you get to play this decade.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Welcome to Kansas.
Where you dont even need to play to declare for the draft.
http://m.kusports.com/news/2019/apr/15/ku-sophomore-silvio-de-sousa-facing-potentially-im/
All out redicilous
Do you blame him? Might as well go through the process while the NCAA decides whether you get to play this decade.
I dont blame him at all but if this is what playing for KU has become, I’m not impressed. Such as life as a fan these days. Silvio has been screwed every which way this year. Shocked he didnt leave already
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@BeddieKU23 at least he can show himself. Not a lot of choices for him.
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If Silvio can’t play for KU next year he needs to figure out his best course of action. The feedback will be invaluable to his decision making process.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 at least he can show himself. Not a lot of choices for him.
Show himself where? Very unlikely he’s getting a combine invite. Maybe he gets a few workouts.
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@BeddieKU23 Just curious - why do you feel like he won’t get an invite?
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nuleafjhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 Just curious - why do you feel like he won’t get an invite?
Only about 60 guys, give or take a few, get invited. I very much doubt Silvio cracks the 60 most intriguing players. It’s not out of the question, but it’s also very unlikely imo.
Besides the 60 guys getting mocked, you have guys going undrafted I know teams will want to see more than Silvio. Kerwin Roach, Martin Brothers, Luke Maye, Donta Hall, Matur Maker.
Throw in some guys from overseas. Throw in a few more guys that inexplicably leave.
I think it will be very hard for Silvio to make the cut as he is not elite size, and has not shown any ability the NBA is currently coveting.
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@Kcmatt7 but those that don’t get invited, don’t they still get some feedback of some sort? I’m pretty sure they know they won’t get in that 60.
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@Kcmatt7 Thanks for the feedback. I was wondering, because everyone (KU fans) made such a big deal about him the past …hundred years - however long it’s been since he’s been our pine rider. I thought he was supposed to be like Zion if he ever got to lace up.
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nuleafjhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 Just curious - why do you feel like he won’t get an invite?
For starters the fact he didn’t play last year.
I was optimistic about his potential this past season and felt his absence was as big as losing Doke. He just fit what the team needed down low.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yes, it does let them get some feedback usually.
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KU basketball banquet tonight at 6:30, I believe. Maybe some announcements regarding staying or going?
Anyone going?
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Gorilla72 said:
KU basketball banquet tonight at 6:30, I believe. Maybe some announcements regarding staying or going?
Anyone going?
Who’s left to go? Everyone but the mail man has left already
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I fully expect Garrett to declare his intentions at the banquet.
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BeddieKU23 said:
nuleafjhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 Just curious - why do you feel like he won’t get an invite?
For starters the fact he didn’t play last year.
I was optimistic about his potential this past season and felt his absence was as big as losing Doke. He just fit what the team needed down low.
You know - - I dunno , but for some reason I’m just stating to think that just MAYBE - DOKE does come back. - - Didn’t think there was a snowball’s chance in hell at 1st BUT - - I mean why hasn’t he announced already? - -you would of thought that with the way I was thinking and a lot of others were thinking that beyond a doubt he was gone - -If DOKE was the same train of thought - he would of just came right out and said I’m declaring.
I think like has been mentioned , with his injury I don’t think he will be available for the Combine - and as we know that’s pretty much an informational thing. Well he was told LAST year what he needed to work on - - well with his season injury didn’t get that chance to work on it. So nothing has changed in that perspective
Probably crazy - -just starting to feel Maybe. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BeddieKU23 said:
Gorilla72 said:
KU basketball banquet tonight at 6:30, I believe. Maybe some announcements regarding staying or going?
Anyone going?
Who’s left to go? Everyone but the mail man has left already Silvio and DOKE that’s it - -right? - -Garrett isn’t going anywhere - not really sure his name has EVER been brought into that conversation. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@dylans I hope he declares his intentions to get a jump shot.
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Fightsongwriter said:
@dylans I hope he declares his intentions to get a jump shot.
You win the internet for this week! Bravo
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When is the deadline to declare and back out to maintain your eligibility? I know it’s on here but I can’t find it. Thanks
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rockchalkwyo said:
When is the deadline to declare and back out to maintain your eligibility? I know it’s on here but I can’t find it. Thanks
Late May I think? Something like the 25th. And you go undrafted you can return to school starting this year.
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Does hiring an agent still mean that you waive your eligibility?
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@approxinfinity no it just has to be a NCAA approved agent
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We are a faaaar cry away from games like this: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2003-03-29-arizona.html
So many pros in this game and many were JR/SR.
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BShark said:
We are a faaaar cry away from games like this: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2003-03-29-arizona.html
So many pros in this game and many were JR/SR.
Can we talk for a second about how Kirk took 17 3’s
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Well it looks as though we will be finding out by Monday morning at the latest on Doke and also will play a big part about the decision of Silvio’s future at KU. - Sunday Night is the deadline for a player to declare early for the NBA draft - So if either Doke or Silvio is going to declare - -they have to have it done by Sunday Night. - -So I guess we will know if Doke OR Silvio declares. If Silvio doesn’t - -then he may just ride it out - -see how this appeal goes.
Speaking of that Matt had a pretty good article trying to break down Silvio’s appeal and the time frame. - He also talked about WHY it had taken KU 75 days to actually file the appeal - -which I thought they had already doen, and then when I saw that they had just filed I was thinking what the hell - -but he explains why - -makes sense.
I’m still starting to think more and more that Doke might just actually return next year but I wouldn’t bet the farm on it - -we will see - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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EJ Montgomery declared for the draft from UK. Although I think he is more so just trying to get feedback…
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I feel your frustration. I agree that I want players who put KU and their opportunity to play for KU paramount.
But I draw the line getting down too hard on Grimes. I don’t think he ever pretended to be a huge KU fan. He was a guy that came into Lawrence “hyped up” and ranked. That is what we get for gambling on him.
As long as we play this concept of putting much of our eggs in the “elite basket” we can expect to have more of the same. I guarantee you this happens at all the elite schools who are busy recruiting elites.
I know I’m becoming more of a Virginia fan every single day! I hope Bennett doesn’t use his new added prestige on going towards higher recruits and selling out his damn-good model on how to coach D1!
But I’m not the normal D1 basketball fan. I’m a basketball geek who loves defense… loves rebounding!
It’s hard to say how Grimes will turn out. He may end up in the league and fulfill the hype forecast. And then we will all say, “See! He didn’t try at Kansas! He merely used us to get to the next level!”
From what I have seen of Grimes, he isn’t anywhere near ready to dribble on a NBA court. But that doesn’t mean he won’t be later, and that later could be within a year!
When these kids get hyped up they get a free pass to an opportunity at the next level. That means they get exposed to the developmental tools to get there. Money fuels all of this, and marketing creates money! A hyped kid is already floating around with followers, dreamers and the like.
I’ve read plenty about Grimes. He sure seems like a really good kid! I advise rethinking all of this. The problems are in the system. Not the kids. In fact… even the players that seem the worst… there is a reason why they are the way they are. It’s a little too much to just expect these teenagers to be wise beyond their years, spiritual, and without any tarnish from the fairytale existences they have suffered with their entire lives!
I’m back coaching kids basketball. The problems start far before a kid dribbles a basketball. I personally went through this with my son, who within his first year of life was projected to be in the top 2% in height. That built all kinds of fairytale thoughts in my head. I’m back to reality now and I will accept him for who he is and what makes him happy!
Smelling sauce, anyone?!
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Since the title win UVA picked up a recruit that was ranked #400 when Penn State first had him. He got out and opened his recruitment up and now is the #200 ranked player committed to UVA.
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UVA also has the 57th recruit (out of NC), and the 59th guy, from Washington D.C. So two very solid guys from their backyard and a project. I expect Bennett to start recruiting better.
You already see Jay Wright having to take “Presumed OADs” now because of holes created by guys leaving he didn’t expect. It’s the nature of the beast. Success breeds success, but also higher expectations. Both for yourself and from fans…
