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    • Jayhawk_69J Online
      Jayhawk_69
      last edited by Jayhawk_69

      Some day after takes:

      1. Yesterday's game confirmed somethings we already knew: Council is a stud and Peterson is a shocking talent but cannot play in second halves.

      2. Bryson's 3-ball may be a legit weapon.

      3. The media narrative is, once again, wrong. This was hyped up as Dybansta vs Peterson. Neither one was even a top-5 player on the court the other day. I would rank the performers as: 1. Saunders 2. Tiller 3. Council 4. Wright 5. Bidunga 6. Peterson 7. Dybansta

      4. Allen Fieldhouse continues to be the greatest arena in sports

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        Interesting rankings.

        1st half- Peterson best player on the floor

        2nd half- Saunders best player

        Bidunga changed the game defensively in limiting Dybansta then Saunders late. I think he was the MVP of the game overall. Clutch free throws from him late after clanking a bunch earlier.

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          Jayhawk_69 @BeddieKU23
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          @BeddieKU23 I agree. But the first half is not the whole game so Peterson can't be rated higher than other players who produced more than he did

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            bskeet @Tallturd1
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            @Tallturd1 said in BYU Beatdown game chat - 1/31 3:30 CT:

            @tundrahok Last week Arizona led BYU by 19 in the second half and by 11 with 63 seconds left and BYU had the ball under their basket with 15 seconds left and missed the winning shot. They came back against the #1 team in the country better than they did against us. Maybe they are just resilient and really good also. I'm not upset about their big second half. We were a mid 70's scoring team without DP and we scored at our average in the second half. Kudos to Jamari for his play all game. Eight points, three boards, two assists and zero turnovers.

            ^^^^ I agree... This is the way to look at it.

            In summary, BYU vs Arizona was at home, which probably helped their comeback. But BYU is really good. Arizona is better.

            One other way to interpret: 1st half, DP went bonkers on them and we had a ~20 lead. Second half, no DP and Saunders went equally bonkers on us. The difference was ~10pts. KU > BYU. (That's KU with 50% of DP. Not KU with 0% DP. Not sure whether KU without DP would beat BYU, even on a historic day at AFH.)

            Rock Chalk!

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              Also, for those who are old enough to remember... I think Melvin Council Jr. reminds me of Milton Newton.. Am I wrong about that? I know everyone throws out the Tyshawn Taylor comparisons, but he moves like Newton and has instincts that seem similar.

              I really am enjoying this group when they play zesty.

              Final 2cents: A team that can play effectively at 2 speeds -- like we did in the first half (and stockpile a healthy lead) and then slow it down, work the clock with precision possessions -- is a winning team. I think we have room to improve on both, but you have to be impressed with the ability to (first) attain a 20pt lead, and (second) withstand a spirited comeback against very strong team.

              You have to do that in March... often with a thinner margin of error. Yesterday was good practice.

              Rock Chalk!

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                I see ESPN hasn't updated their "attendance" amounts!!
                3:30 PM, January 31, 2026
                Allen Fieldhouse Lawrence, KS
                Attendance: 16,300

                #RCJH GO KU

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                  bskeet @BeddieKU23
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                  @BeddieKU23 said in BYU Beatdown game chat - 1/31 3:30 CT:

                  @Jayhawk_69

                  Interesting rankings.

                  1st half- Peterson best player on the floor

                  2nd half- Saunders best player

                  Bidunga changed the game defensively in limiting Dybansta then Saunders late. I think he was the MVP of the game overall. Clutch free throws from him late after clanking a bunch earlier.

                  Agree.

                  Flory's contributions yesterday are overlooked because they aren't showing up on the stat sheet as you point out.

                  Or maybe, at closer look, they are showing up on the stat sheet by omission. Wasn't Dybansta the #2 scorer in D1 prior to the game?

                  Tiller's performance yesterday was undeniably impactful and the most pleasant, unexpected, surprise.

                  But MVP probably was someone else. Not sure who -- because DP was sensational when he was playing and Council was also clutch. Flory for MVP is a pretty good choice.

                  Rock Chalk!

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                    Team mvp effort

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                      Hey one could argue his first half effort is the reason they won. BYU being down 22 at half was in large part because of his 18 pts. Very disappointing he didnt play in the 2nd half. A collection of top efforts from Tiller, Council and Flory got them the Victory. Tre had a strong rebounding game and gave max effort on both ends. We had just enough after two guys sat most or all of the 2nd half. Hopefully those two can bring in Monday

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                        @bskeet I can see the Milt Newton comparison. I feel like Melvin is a little more athletic, a lot faster (not fair, he's a lot faster than just about everyone). But Milt bled Crimson and Blue. Great hustle and man could he jump!

                        America! Where you have the right to be wrong.

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                          Elmarko questionable for tonight's game.

                          Darryn not on the report

                          Dawson might be a key sub tonight. Rosario in a tough spot if he has to play

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                            Wouldn't be surprised if Elmarko doesn't play tonight for precaution giving him another 5 days of rest.

                            If that happens this is your night to shine Dawson (no pressure).

                            So far 42 minutes played in Conference, 6 pts (2/6 fg 1/4 3ptfg), 2 boards, 1 assist & steal.

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                              Darryn not on the report ? - - which means he is ok for a go then right ?- -hopefully more then a half tonight, but wouldn't count on it

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                                Yeah not on the report. Self said he only practiced 1 day leading up to the BYU game. Hopefully he can get further into the 2nd half tonight before any issue flares up now that he got back out there

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                                  @BeddieKU23 said in BYU Beatdown game chat - 1/31 3:30 CT:

                                  Elmarko questionable for tonight's game.

                                  Darryn not on the report

                                  Dawson might be a key sub tonight. Rosario in a tough spot if he has to play

                                  The Kohl situation is so odd. He went from starting to one appearance in the last five games. The BYU game was really telling I feel. Darryn out, Elmarko out and the only guy Bill would even put in briefly was Dawson.

                                  Absolutely do not click (new video sept 30 2025): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjs1LR1sarQ

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                                    @BeddieKU23 let's hope he can maybe go for the entire game -- --were gonna need him as that place is not good , very hard to win

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                                      @BShark is he past the red shirt possibility? I don’t see a reason for that any way. He really lost his shot. He does play tough and board pretty good!

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                                        We didn't get up by 20 at the half just because of DP. Saunders didn't just fall out of a tree in the second. 24 in a half is a fluke and probably made him some money later

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