Jayhawk-Warrior chat here.
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KU will make adjustments and squeak this one out. We got em where we want em.
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approxinfinity said:
KU will make adjustments and squeak this one out. We got em where we want em.
No way. They are getting the looks they want. They are just better than Louisiana and Vermont so they will win.
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Every coach has carved up Selfâs âdefenseâ this year.
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Garrett sucks. And Bill has lost the ability to coach defense apparently. Do we really think this team should be this bad defensively?
We have defaulted to a switching defense with piss poor rotations because nobody knows who they are guarding. Am I crazy or did Bill Self win a championship with HARD hedges and aggressive rotations where we jumped lanes and got easy steals?
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21 of Marquetteâs 33 shots were 3s.
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wissox said:
The knock on Dedric has been his lack of elite athleticism and I think weâre seeing it.
He could be for a long year. - -what is his vertical - - 2 inches?
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His drives are going nowhere.
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âŚand I thought Fran was the negative one. SMH.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Garrett sucks. And Bill has lost the ability to coach defense apparently. Do we really think this team should be this bad defensively?
We have defaulted to a switching defense with piss poor rotations because nobody knows who they are guarding. Am I crazy or did Bill Self win a championship with HARD hedges and aggressive rotations where we jumped lanes and got easy steals?
You arenât crazy. I donât get it either man. Maybe Self is teaching them a lesson? IdkâŚ
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I remember the times when we had Kaun and Jackson and Arthur would hedge hard and trap an opposing guard at half court, forcing a tough pass that would at least be contested if not stolen.
This is just embarrassing. Bill needs to go and watch his own old film.
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Vick goes for 11 early - - -where did he go?
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I warned you all about the 3âs.
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Kcmatt7 said:
I remember the times when we had Kaun and Jackson and Arthur would hedge hard and trap an opposing guard at half court, forcing a tough pass that would at least be contested if not stolen.
This is just embarrassing. Bill needs to go and watch his own old film.
Has Self been the same since the VCU game?
My column:
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This is the # 2 team in the Nation?
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No
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kjayhawks said:
Just flat out lazy on defense, yes they are hot but several had not jayhawk within 5 feet of them. This isnât Middle school guys, teams will hit those all night. This team talent wise is the worse we have had in a very very long time. Both Lawson boys are waste of a scholarship.
Just stop with the hyperbole. This team wasnât voted preseason #1 because of a lack of talent. Iâll straight up say the two least talented teams in the Bill Self era were the 2011-12,Final Four team and the 2014-15 Kelly Oubre team.
These are the growing pains of a team that has a lot of new pieces and returning pieces in new roles.
This is their 5th game together. Chemistry doesnât happen overnight and freshmen donât play like seniors.
This team will lose a few games this year they probably shouldnât because of their youth and inexperience.
This group will be fine come January and February.
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stoptheflop said:
21 of Marquetteâs 33 shots were 3s.
Yep our Achilles heel is well known now.
Letâs see if we can adjust for this half.
Give Dedric a Redbull, pull Garrett, get Vick open, keep Doke from fouling, stop passing like grade schoolers, and find someone who can finish a drive. Sheesh
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I tell you what , if we canât defend the 3 any better then this â Lonnnnnnnnnnnng 2nd half and toy canât trade basket s3âs for them and 2 for us.
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I miss the old stubborn Hi-Lo and Tough D Bill. Thatâs who this team needs.
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Iâve just come to the conclusion this team just doesnât have it. If Vick doesnât go nuts we likely have 2 home losses to mid majors. We are probably past due for a down year with 14 straight and 3 straight E8s.
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Garrett shouldnât see the floor this half. Holy shit. Have we ever had a worse offensive player under Bill?
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kjayhawks said:
Iâve just come to the conclusion this team just doesnât have it. If Vick doesnât go nuts we likely have 2 home losses to mid majors. We are probably past due for a down with 14 straight and 3 straight E8s.
Whoah. Pump those breaks.
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LOL Garrett starts.
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Doke comes back in. Some life.
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When you switch, you let the offense dictate who guards who.
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Danny Manning would have made that jump hook!
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Dok has a role in this game. Defended on perimeter and flush on the O side
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Are some of yaâll seriously complaining because essentially a new team isnât playing the caliber of defense a championship team that played together for 3 years played?
Donât forget that the core of the title team played together for 3 years. Thatâs 3 years worth of chemistry and knowing what each other player was going to do.
This team has 4 games worth of chemistry. Donât forget the core of that championship team lost to Bradley in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament and lost a lot of games when they were freshmen. Same deal with the previous 2 KU teams. They lost a lot games when they were young and had a couple of early tournament exits as well.
The issues with this team will not be fixed overnight. Wait until after the Christmas break when KU only plays 3 games between 12/8 and 12/29. Thatâs when the improvements will happen because thatâs when they happen every year.
This is hardly the first year under Self when KU has looked lost at the beginning of the season. The finals and Christmas breaks are always when the most improvements happen for Self teams.
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Weâd be screaming if that pick was called against us.
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wissox said:
Weâd be screaming if that pick was called against us.
It was earlier in the game
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Surprised Garrett started the second half? Self sees something I donât. Trust is difficult when youâre behind to an unranked team.
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Nicely put.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Iâd just like to see us gaurd the damn 3 point line for a change. Thatâs all Iâm really asking for.
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Especially when we know thatâs what they want to do.
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If Q and Dedric canât do anything on offense this team is going to struggle.
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Guard 3âs = Win game.
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Also, can anyone fathom a reason that Marcus started over Q? Defense I guessâŚ
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@BShark haters gonna hate.
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Doke just got his 3rd
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I know Vick is hot but thatâs a bad shot.
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Clean block. Good play.
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But this 15 year Scotch is smooth.
Johnny Walker Green
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Bwag said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Iâd just like to see us gaurd the damn 3 point line for a change. Thatâs all Iâm really asking for.
Back away from the ledge. I guarantee we could go back to games chats from the first few games of each of the past few seasons and see the exact same complaints. These issues are nothing new for a Bill Self team in November.
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Vick can make tough shots but KU should try to get easier shots than that.
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marquette is getting in foul trouble and that should cost them
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Much better defense, Marquette is yet to score in the second half.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 not on the ledge. Just looking forward in time to National Championship game when we get bombed out of the gym because we NEVER learn to guard the line.
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If Doke is in the game he needs to get paint touches every possession.
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I think heâs trying to light a fire under Q
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10-0 run to start the 2nd half.
