FIBU U18 Self/Manning/Grimes
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@BShark Thanks. I think I’ve found the tournament’s broadcast on youtube by searching FIBA. I’m watching the beginning of the Chile v. Ecuador game, so I hope the USA game will work as well at 5 Central.
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@stoptheflop The US game is supposed to be on that channel as well.
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Facebook is the devil. I remember when companies had to pay for marketing information ha. Social media is a great deception.
Youtube link to the current game.
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Poor game from Grimes and JRE so far.
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Ayo looks better than Grimes.
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Grimes had sweet pass
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Grimes had sweet pass
Two in a row, though second one didn’t get finished. Looking a bit better in this half.
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Let’s get Anthony
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How many guys r gonna fall over the signs?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Let’s get Anthony
Duke…
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He signed?
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@Crimsonorblue22 He will. If it’s not Duke (unlikely) it will be Oregon. Nike won’t let him end up in Lawrence.
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Great to by self!
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@BShark Nova really in on Cole too. Also a loooong way to go. Doesn’t really talk about recruiting.
Nifty hi lo from Hurt to JRE. Sign of things to come?
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JRE HURT TWO MAN GAME. GLIMPSE OF THE FUTURE?
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This Dom Rep team is bad.
Wonder why Calipari isn’t still coaching them.
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You mean, not coaching them
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Where did the chubby boy go?
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Where’s makey going?
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White?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Maxey UK
White UNC
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Soriano for Dom Rep might not end up at Fordham if he keeps showing this well, but he is currently committed to them.
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Rocket Watts has a very appropriate name.
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So what time do we play tomorrow? - - - Hurt looked good - really carried the USA in the 1st quarter - quiet after that but wasn’t a must. - -got a couple of blocks like 7-8 rebounds.
Robinson had a fair game - - better late -
Grimes not much but looks like a pretty balanced team. - We shall see what tomorrow brings
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@BShark yes, Maxey
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JRE better on O, footwork bad on D. That’ll change at KU. Grimes, like most of them, tried to do to much. Started moving the ball and playing D, got to run the floor, looked much better then.
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@jayballer73 Team USA plays Panama at 7:15 Central Monday.
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stoptheflop said:
@jayballer73 Team USA plays Panama at 7:15 Central Monday.
Thanks I appreciate that. I knew someone could tell me. - -I assuming I can watch the game off the same link as yesterday. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Really sad ya , ya , ya, I know save it I already know there are some here asking the million dollar question - or making their comments " YES " I trolled the Kentucky boards today - -WHY? - because I can - -that’s why - - anyways just like I thought and verified - they all crying about Self and saying such things as OH love how Self has his recruits on the team - - Hurt - - Earle - & the Grimes , then they follow up by saying wish Coach Cal could do things like that , but were talking Self. - -it’s borderline historical. - what people don’t understand is that Coach Self was only 1/12th of choosing the team there was a 12 man board - - NOT just Coach Self
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@jayballer73 Guess they forgot when Cal coached the Dominican Republic team to secure KAT errrrr I mean OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF HIS HEART.
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What heart?
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Panama is really bad. Honestly feel sorry for the kids.
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@BShark Bill’s USA team has some tough opposition coming up, so I think it’s great the guys get to play loose tonight. This gives the coaches time to work on some sets.
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@BShark Ya , I know right? - -that’s was crossing my mind too
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Not really much you can say about a game like this to night, it was actually pretty sad , mercy those poor kids. - -Even Robinson Earle 13 rebounds not sure how much stock you can put into that - yet still pretty balanced scoring- - lot of lay ups - - -lot of Dunks , Hurt didn’t look to bad tonight again hit some three’s - -missed some too but has shown for sure that he can hit the 3. - -Puerto Rico tomorrow just not sure of time
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45-0 run to start the game…if you can even call it a game. 118-26 final score.
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@JayHawkFanToo Despite the lack of competition from Panama, I still enjoyed watching the athleticism of the USA players. USA plays Puerto Rico today at 6. This game will show us if our young guys have the discipline to play as a team or if it will continue to be me first players. I still prefer to watch basketball to the MLB.
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I quit watching pretty quickly. The game today should be more interesting.
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The Puerto Rico game actually starts at 5pm Central. All these games are available to watch anytime on the FIBU website on youtube.
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Panama just had no matchups for this game. Lacked size. Lacked athleticism. Lacked shooting.
The Panama team was really an average local high school varsity team playing a national all star team.
You can’t learn much from a game like this.
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I really felt bad for the Panamanian team. Some of the smaller countries should really reconsider sending teams to competitions of this level. Yes, it is an experience for the kids but not necessarily a good one as the team was truly embarrassed by a much superior opponent; hopefully they will do better against weaker competition.
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Its tough for the smaller countries.
They just don’t have the infrastructure to build a strong team at the lower levels. However, they can’t build that infrastructure without sending teams to the competitions.
Think of it this way.
Let’s say a local HS has a weak basketball program. Their varsity routinely gets blown out. It won’t strengthen their program if they disband their freshman and JV teams. In fact, it will basically guarantee that they will continue to struggle.
Yes, their freshman and JV teams will probably also get blown out, but if they build those programs, they can eventually go from being terrible to being middle of the road over time. Maybe they don’t have the talent to become state contenders, but they can win 8 or 9 games a year.
That’s where Panama is. Their senior national team isn’t very strong, but the only way to strengthen it is to build a strong program at the U16 and U18 levels. Once those guys start graduating to the senior team, perhaps Panama becomes a better team. But it starts at the lower levels.
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@JayHawkFanToo Basketball isn’t a priority sport in Panama. It’s at best the 3rd most popular sport behind soccer then baseball.
It’s same issue with soccer in this country. Soccer is at best the 4th most popular sport in this country which is why the US has always struggled to compete against world powers and and significant factor in why the US failed to qualify for the World Cup this year.
Basketball just isn’t a priority sport in Panama like soccer or baseball is there. Until that changes, very doubtful, Panama will never improve in basketball.
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Agreed with the popularity of basketball in Panama. Disagree with the status of soccer here. The US has been consistently ranked in the top 25 in the world (currently 25th in the FIFA rankings out of 206 national teams) for a while now and the women’s national team is ranked #1 in the world now. The failure to make it to the current World Cup is not because of a lack of talent but because of the politics in USA soccer that have kept some of the better players off the national team. It started when Jurgen Klinsmann was hired as coach and started to bring German/Euro players playing in Europe who could also claim American citizenship instead of selecting and rewarding local talent and it came to a head when he cut Landon Donovan from the team, a player that was still not only very capable and experienced at national and international levels but had also been the leader of the team for many years. The team did not qualify for the current edition of the World Cup for the first time in a long time.
More kids 6-17 play soccer now than any other sport. The Sporting KC sells out the stadium for every game and the tickets are not cheap either. The MSL is doing very well.
Enough of soccer, back to basketball…
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@JayHawkFanToo If you think US soccer politics are a hoot try France or Spain.
Overall the US system just isn’t good enough yet, needs more time.
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Women’s soccer succeeds here in the US because, among girls, soccer is one of the most popular sports. As one of the most popular sports in the US among girls, the best female athletes in the US grow up playing soccer, softball, or basketball, then select whichever one they are best at as they get older. In a country the size of the US, that is a recipe for dominance. The US is #1 in the world in women’s basketball, softball and consistently 1 or 2 in soccer.
For men’s sports, soccer lags behind football, basketball, baseball, and in many places hockey. That means the most athletic boys grow up playing other sports. As a result, US soccer teams usually don’t have the type of athletes, the physically coordinated, fast, quick, explosive, elusive athletes with great coordination, balance and agility that are most successful in soccer, on the field because those kids are playing wide receiver, or running back, or center field, or shooting guard.
This is shifting as football’s popularity as a youth sport continues to decline. More kids are playing soccer, which means better athletes are playing soccer, which will eventually mean better US teams playing soccer on the world stage. Just not yet.
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Soccer in America is already well established and doing well and continues to grow and the level is very good. Look at the record against Mexico, the strongest team on North American and a traditional top 10-15 world power, it is 33–18–14 (W–L–T) overall in Mexico’s favor; however, during the last 18 years the record is 13–6–5 (W–L–T) in favor of the US including a win at Azteca Stadium where the US had never beat Mexico before…this is real progress.
Since 1990, US has qualified for the World Cup 7 times in a row and has been ranked in the top 25 every time except 1 and as high as #8. No question that the US was a legitimate top 20 team until this upcoming tournament. Here is a summary…
The other thing that US is doing that is different than the rest of the world is using very young players (early 20s) and dismissing the older players (late 20s and older). Look at the top 100 players in the world and you will see that the majority are over 30 years, same thing with most national teams.
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@JayHawkFanToo What does the US FIFA rankings (a complete joke by the way) have to do with how popular soccer is here in the US? I live in a city with an NFL, NBA, MLB, and MLS team. Texans are by far the number 1 team in the city followed by the Astros, then the Rockets, then the Dynamo lag well behind those three despite being the most successful team of the 4 since moving to Houston in 2006 having won two MLS Cups, and playing for 2 other MLS Cups and being playoff regulars. They’re still 4th in Houston despite the huge Hispanic population here where soccer is the top sport.
The Dynamo are one of the teams that in theory should be a bigger draw than they are giving the historic success of the franchise and the demographics of the city, but I’ve been to plenty of games where it’s been about 60% capacity in an 18,000 seat stadium because people still care far more about the other 3 pro teams in the city.
