Bruce On The Warpath
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Self is downright soft these days compared to Bruce and Shaka.
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I believe this benefits him more then staying.
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@JayHawkFanToo Weber took Illinois to the title game and saw minimal spike, if any, in recruiting from that. Illinois is in a much better spot to recruit than KSU is. Situated pretty close to both Chicago and St. Louis, that is a program that should never hurt for talent, but Weber did and Illinois slid into irrelevance where they remain today.
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@BShark Hey, why are all the Shlocker kids leaving? Think they’re tired of seeing the shiny forehead?
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@KUSTEVE Gregg’s wife probably gets handsy with them in the lockerroom.
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@Kcmatt7 LOL…
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KUSTEVE said:
@BShark Hey, why are all the Shlocker kids leaving? Think they’re tired of seeing the shiny forehead?
Idk but my WSU fan friends kept telling me that WSU PLAYERS GRADUATE UNLIKE WHAT HAPPENS IN LAWRENCE.
I’ve been texting and calling them and no responses now…
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Kcmatt7 said:
@KUSTEVE Gregg’s wife probably gets handsy with them in the lockerroom.
You’d figure they would stick around for that kind of action.
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@BeddieKU23 Well I’m sure it makes for a really awkward situation when Greg is in the corner watching.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Well I’m sure it makes for a really awkward situation when Greg is in the corner watching.
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Two completely different levels of recruiting. Illinois recruits or tries to recruit top tier, i.e. 3-5 Star players where KSU goes after middle level tier, i.e. 1-3 Star players and they migh now be able to go after fringe 4 Star players.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Two completely different levels of recruiting. Illinois recruits or tries to recruit top tier, i.e. 3-5 Star players where KSU goes after middle level tier, i.e. 1-3 Star players and they migh now be able to go after fringe 4 Star players.
The key is knowing who you can get. Old balls at the end of his first stint at KSU started trying to recruit above his head and it cost them.
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Come on guys…let’s keep it classy.
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@JayHawkFanToo Oh you at least smirked reading it.
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I know I did while I was writing it lol.
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@BShark Sooo…do they still want to play us now???
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@JayHawkFanToo like Marsha and his wife?
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Two completely different levels of recruiting. Illinois recruits or tries to recruit top tier, i.e. 3-5 Star players where KSU goes after middle level tier, i.e. 1-3 Star players and they migh now be able to go after fringe 4 Star players.
And you just completely missed the point. The point had nothing to do with the caliber of recruits. Weber has taken teams to the E8 and deeper before and never saw a meaningful spike in recruiting so why would he now? That has always been his weakness. He’s a great X’s and O’s coach, but the man can’t recruit talent to level he should get. Huggy and Martin showed you can bring in top level talent to KSU, Weber just sucks at recruiting.
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@JayHawkFanToo Very well said. Hmm, lets plot the trajectory of Shaka Smart: his peak was…*wait for it…wait…*way back in 2011…(but UTex is still waiting…). Meanwhile I’m liking Rick Barnes more. Shaka’s record speaks for itself, requires no translation.
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@jaybate-1.0 But how would you define “stack” for Nike-Nova? Thay have some top 100 type guys, but not McDAAs. They seem to be system guys. I think bigs are getting more versatile in 3ability coming out of h.s., with a growing % that can trifectate, more to choose from, even at sub-MickeyD level.
I would even postulate that Jay Wright is wreaking havoc with this anti-stack, craftily looking like a “traditional” roster w/2 bigs, but look at Spellman, effectively allowing Jay to still play as 4+1. Spellman hitting 3x3s in 2nd half just murdered KU literally, and they got Self conceptually, as we had no answer defensively. Udoka totally negated.
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Nicely said. This is the on going trend started by the Golden State Warriors with 5 players that can play inside and also hit from the outside. The era of the big plodding Center is coming to an end. This is why Embiid is so good, he can go outside and hit the 3 and the big, slower Centers cannot keep up with him and he can also overpower the faster but smaller centers. At this time, Doke is a big plodding Center with no outside game and subpar rebounding for his size and his potential in the new NBA is limited.
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Not really. Huggins had been out of coaching for a year before KSU and was able to contact many top players like Walker and Beasley without the restrictions that coaches have. The top players that came to KSU were a result of the reputation of Huggins and part of the Dalonte Hill package with his contacts/pipeline from the East Coast AAU circuit, this the reason why a Hill was the highest paid Assistant Coach in Division I and once he left, the recruiting fell off big time. Other than Beasley and Walker, both Huggins recruits, no Martin recruited player was drafted. I believe the only two player from the Huggins-Martin era in the NBA are Beasley and McGruder who was a Beasley HS teammate and Hill recruit from the DC area. Perhaps the 3 top Martin recruits were Pullen ranked #88, Colon was a 3-Star and Clemente was unranked. Like I said, KSU ceiling appears to be a 3-Star, 70-100 player.
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