Recruiting Thread
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One bad game doesn’t change Vick’s stock. He’s had six 20+ games already, he’s rebounded and gotten teammates involved at a higher rate then he’s ever. The Tech game was a really bad taste. He simply failed to impact the game in any category. He’ll have to put that game well behind him.
So some mock’s have Vick in the late 1st, worst case scenario is he’s probably an early 2nd type? He’s never going to be a lotto pick unless he took the Mason jump as a Sr so coming back is really about just solidifying 1st round status for him. Still a ton of ball left for him to figure out where he stands.
Doke should be back. But the thoughts roaming in my head keep saying he’s going to leave regardless
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@BeddieKU23 I don’t see Vick going before pick 40 this year. It’s a really strong draft. The 2019 draft is a lot weaker since the 2018 class is much weaker. As far as leadership, it’s going to be a little lacking next season no matter what. Langford would just be another guy. He’s an introverted, quiet kid.
Doke isn’t even on draft boards yet. Not sure he does anything but the D League if he leaves.
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No way do i see Vick going pro this year. I don’t think he thinks he’s ready.
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I’d rather have no leadership and let the role be up for grabs than I would want someone who is clearly not an Alpha take on the role just because he is a Senior.
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Maybe he is a 2nd round type this year. If that’s the case I’m sure he’ll return. I just think projecting him back right now is premature when there is over 20+ games left for him to figure it out. He’s not as limited as Svi & Graham will be going into the draft who are clearly not 1st round caliber picks. Vick has upside because of his age, his athleticism, his improved shooting, rebounding, assists etc. What would probably separate him from coming back is taking on an Alpha role and not disappearing from games like he did this week. Overall I think he still has the best chance to be a 1st rounder on the roster at the moment.
Doke has his weaknesses, he should return. I just can’t get away from what he said when he signed that he wanted to be a 2 year player. Whether that changed when he got injured is the big question. I think it was Self that said he wouldn’t leave after this year unless he had a 1st round guarantee which seems very unlikely. We’ll see, it would be great to hold onto him for another year and have that depth again
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@BeddieKU23 Doke is emotionally young too! Maybe him and Silvio will hit it off. He seems a lil detached from the others.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 Doke is emotionally young too! Maybe him and Silvio will hit it off. He seems a lil detached from the others.
Good point. Both from Africa, can see that maybe having some influence
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@BShark I didn’t understand any of that…
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Self to see Langford tomorrow.
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https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2018
Grimes up to #10
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He’s better then the two guys in front of him. Bazley does have a ton of long term potential though at his size. Jones still gettin that Duke/brother hype I see.
Nice to see Dotson at #17
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Sam Williamson up to #87 on 247 composite. Still super low on 247 at #170. Someone from Rivals is high on him as he is #48 in their new rankings. He is definitely working his way up to be a player KU would be very happy to have.
Rivals actually has him ahead of Chandler Lawson and Malik Hall whoa.
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Not surprised he’s ahead of the younger Lawson. Must be having a big season
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I have noticed that some of the ranking services tend to be way behind and don’t upgrade often enough to reflect current play so ranking could be way different the next update.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Not surprised he’s ahead of the younger Lawson. Must be having a big season
Has Chandler not been having a great season? I haven’t been paying too much attention.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
I have noticed that some of the ranking services tend to be way behind and don’t upgrade often enough to reflect current play so ranking could be way different the next update.
Yeah I don’t think 247 has done a real major update in awhile. Rivals within the last month did major 2018 and 2019 revisions.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Not surprised he’s ahead of the younger Lawson. Must be having a big season
Has Chandler not been having a great season? I haven’t been paying too much attention.
Just observing both of them I can see why Williamson is getting some attention. He can really shoot it. I just think Chandler lacks the skill that his brothers have. Don’t get me wrong there is plenty of potential with him but he just screams athlete at this stage. Williamson has one really good skill already.
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One time target Jarius Hamilton ended up at BC along with his brother who’s transferring in. 2 for 1 deal
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@BeddieKU23 Yeah he can definitely shoot it. I’d love to see him end up at KU.
I wonder if that was always part of the equation with Jairus. If it was, then it really makes sense why he ended up at BC.
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I wasn’t sure where to put this but so many midseason transfers now. More than I can remember. Blake Harris has left Missouri for NC State.
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@BShark Nebraska is losing a sophomore big man.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Nebraska is losing a sophomore big man.
Glad we don’t have to be in the market this year.
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I just couldn’t imagine being a coach in today’s game. Not a lot of loyalty, from any party. And too many opportunities for players that they really do have the upper-hand.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Yeah he can definitely shoot it. I’d love to see him end up at KU.
I wonder if that was always part of the equation with Jairus. If it was, then it really makes sense why he ended up at BC.
Looks like that (brother) became more of a thing late in the game. Hamilton really didn’t progress last summer in AAU and a lot of bigger schools backed off. Good spot for him IMO.
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BShark said:
I wasn’t sure where to put this but so many midseason transfers now. More than I can remember. Blake Harris has left Missouri for NC State.
I was going to get around to posting that. Still think he would have been nice to have backing up Devonte this season. However having Dotson and Grimes next season more then makes up for it
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Nebraska is losing a sophomore big man.
Glad we don’t have to be in the market this year.
One of the best posts of the year!
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Kcmatt7 said:
I just couldn’t imagine being a coach in today’s game. Not a lot of loyalty, from any party. And too many opportunities for players that they really do have the upper-hand.
Yeah. Even Self got into a tough spot with recruiting misses and players not working out.
With the way we have loaded up there could be a transfer after next season but I hope not.
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Kcmatt7 said:
I just couldn’t imagine being a coach in today’s game. Not a lot of loyalty, from any party. And too many opportunities for players that they really do have the upper-hand.
Even less loyalty with coaches unless you are an elite coach at an elite school
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Yeah he can definitely shoot it. I’d love to see him end up at KU.
I wonder if that was always part of the equation with Jairus. If it was, then it really makes sense why he ended up at BC.
Looks like that (brother) became more of a thing late in the game. Hamilton really didn’t progress last summer in AAU and a lot of bigger schools backed off. Good spot for him IMO.
Yeah even Maryland backed off, enough said.
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And every school in North Carolina. He wanted to stay in state and his last remaining good options were BC and Ben Howland. Yeah
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
I wasn’t sure where to put this but so many midseason transfers now. More than I can remember. Blake Harris has left Missouri for NC State.
I was going to get around to posting that. Still think he would have been nice to have backing up Devonte this season. However having Dotson and Grimes next season more then makes up for it
Harris, unlike Moore would potentially impact recruiting. And really I don’t think our guards are an issue at all, though Newman has been mostly disappointing relative to what was expected, fair or not.
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BeddieKU23 said:
And every school in North Carolina. He wanted to stay in state and his last remaining good options were BC and Ben Howland. Yeah
I think KU definitely could have got him had the staff pushed for it, based on what I’ve read. Not really interested in a PF in a wing’s body though. I think he is probably ranked too high at 64.
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@BeddieKU23 Thats what I meant by all parties. The money is too good for coaches. There is always another program willing to take a player. It is just a nightmare.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Thats what I meant by all parties. The money is too good for coaches. There is always another program willing to take a player. It is just a nightmare.
Yes the money part is actually the problem.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
I wasn’t sure where to put this but so many midseason transfers now. More than I can remember. Blake Harris has left Missouri for NC State.
I was going to get around to posting that. Still think he would have been nice to have backing up Devonte this season. However having Dotson and Grimes next season more then makes up for it
Harris, unlike Moore would potentially impact recruiting. And really I don’t think our guards are an issue at all, though Newman has been mostly disappointing relative to what was expected, fair or not.
I agree Harris could have impacted recruiting. Whatever the case Self whiffed hard on evaluating who’d be a point guard on this team with Graham. With his comments recently about Newman he almost sounds stunned how bad he’s played after all that he flashed to the staff in his off-year. Whatever the case we will find out whether Newman is a new man or not real soon
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Well the staff did recruit PGs, they just didn’t land any.
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Kentucky rekindling interest in Moses Brown. But but they didn’t whiff on Bol they didn’t want him and weren’t going to take a big this class.
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@BShark right? They probably won’t offer unless Richards and Washington leave. So we’ll see.
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Moses just wants to be recruited. For a Top 20ish type player not a lot of teams seem to be that interested in dealing with him. Kid would be good in College if he stuck around for a while and developed which I doubt he’ll do
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OAD in his own mind.
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BShark said:
OAD in his own mind.
Which is why I’m fortunate KU wasn’t after him
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@BeddieKU23 I think we got two better fits. Moses doesn’t have the kind of competitive fire you want in an elite prospect. He’s got all the ability in he world but wants to be a wing. I’ve never been a huge fan of his tbh.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 I think we got two better fits. Moses doesn’t have the kind of competitive fire you want in an elite prospect. He’s got all the ability in he world but wants to be a wing. I’ve never been a huge fan of his tbh.
Agree on all points.
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If you have ESPN3 you can watch a replay of Oak Hill vs University School (lol at the name). Lots of future high level D1 players in this game including KU commit David McCormack.
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Not sure if we are recruiting this kid or not, kid still young - -only a freshman they say - - some questioning asking he is 16 yrs old that is old for a freshman they say - -out of Kentucky - so you automatically think Kentucky lock but his stats are just crazy.
His name is Zion Harmon - -seems like that name rings a bell for some reason anyways his season stats are off the charts:
Averaging 34 ppg per game - - - 8 assists per game - 55.1 % fg per game - - -90.5 % from the free thow line - - -3.4 steals per game – & 38.1 % from the 3 point line -crazy all around - -5’11 pg - -don’t know why but man his name sounds familer ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Everyone is keeping tabs on him. Everyone.
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He visited UK and KU last year. Startin reaaal early on this one.
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BShark said:
Everyone is keeping tabs on him. Everyone.
I Thought I had heard his name as someone we was keeping up with. The UK fans seem to be talking like there is some extra baggage that he brings with him - - - Three different schools in three years, and some other things going on - will be interesting to see what happens. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark Watched that replay. Big Dave is going to be here for 3 years at a minimum.
Good Things:
- Decent post moves/coordination
- Great at anticipating rebounds.
- Gets decent position when he wants to.
Bad things:
- Weak hands for a guy his size
- Doesn’t move well. Laterally or Vertically. Watching him next to Carey really puts it in perspective.
It’s hard to get a gauge on him because Oak Hill doesn’t feed him the ball. Most of his points come from put backs.
