Langford
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@Crimsonorblue22 - certainly more well-spoken than is dad “ya know”.
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He actually is a good kid, stayed for hours after each game to sign autographs for kids. I’m not so sure that most of this crap was his idea.
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Well I was wrong. My goodness I should be on 247 sports! My predictions are just as good as any lol! Matt Scott changed his prediction yesterday just to keep his % higher rather than sticking to his guns. BOOOOOOO!
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@BShark my kids would kill me.
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Jeff Borzello Verified account @jeffborzello 7m7 minutes ago
This is the first time since 2007 that Indiana has landed the top-ranked senior from the state.
Wow…
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark my kids would kill me.
Apparently his dad said something about doing the announcment “his way” but I wasn’t watching so I can’t verify that. Makes sense though.
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There is a lot more accountability and scrutiny nowadays and coaches are a lot more careful on what they can and cannot do. If he is going somewhere on personal business I would not be surprised if he flies commercial. With all the investigations going on and the limelight on KU the last thing he or KU need is the Star doing a story on his use of KU planes for personal business.
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Trae Young should call with hints on how RL should handle the defensive pressure that is sure to come his way. This ain’t AAU Ball!
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Well I can’t say that I’m really mad at the kid - I mean if he feels that’s where he will be happy then so be it. Probably not as mad as maybe in the past cause had been fairly sure just quite AS SURE these past few days , wavered a bit.
Bottom line like I have said maybe not here I can’t remember but Were still fine - -we were fine before Romeo - -were fine after Romeo. Would it of been cool with him here - - hell ya , but it’s not like this is the first top flight player we lost out on - - - won’t be the last. Sun still comes up in the East - -Still sits in the West
The one FOR SURE thing I will say - I’m just glad this is finally over - these long drawn recruitments have become way to big of a media specticale - - -just announce and be done with it. - -Seems like these kids are in competition with one another on who can come up with the most piazzzz for their announcements. - I’m just glad it’s over - -time to move on to NEXT years 2019 recruits now - -Let’s do this - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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According to his dad KU finished third behind Vandy. Blah.
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@BShark the FBI “scandal” is going to be a hurdle for Self and staff. The quote I saw was his Dad basically saying having the schools name associated with the FBI case eliminated them.
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Woodrow said:
@BShark the FBI “scandal” is going to be a hurdle for Self and staff. The quote I saw was his Dad basically saying having the schools name associated with the FBI case eliminated them.
Yep.
They lied beforehand and said it wasn’t a factor too… Bad look.
Here is the full quote: “Kansas, it pushed it out for me. Just having that name on your school. I didn’t take them out of the three verbally, we just didn’t want him going there and anybody asking him that type of question. So we don’t want him going to school there, we don’t care how good the basketball is.”
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@Woodrow so hes a lier then cuz he said it didnt
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@BShark post the link from that
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@BShark yea that’s the quote I saw. Not good at all.
As far as the Dad I assume he didn’t come out and eliminate KU because then there would be no suspense if there really was any today. I agree it’s a bad look. Obviously the family / Romeo like some attention. So it makes sense to go the Trae Young route.
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Eh. No big loss. Sr. Garrett should benefit from the increased minutes next year.
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@dylans he better be able to hit the broad side of the barn!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Garrett shooting from three last year was basically a turnover.
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Hello Trae Young Part Deux. Good luck at the NIT, the NCAA made a mistake sending OU to the dance because of Young but will not make the same mistake again. Archie Miller is a really good coach and will get Indiana in shape in time but I don’t believe one player and one year will do it, he will need more time and talent than what he has now.
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So which team did he pick?
Kidding. Maybe we get Cremo now
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Did he pick Louisville? I really thought he was going there
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So, it sounds like KU was in the mix, that he delayed his decision seeing how things shook out at KU, but the FBI B.S. took KU out of the mix. Nice.
I wonder, if there wasn’t any indictment, but the info about Adidas paying DeSousa and Preston had come out (without the indictment), would the reaction be the same?
Maybe. Fear of sanctions maybe. I don’t know.
When you are associated with this stuff and KU is a part of that in any way, it is not a good thing. That is for sure.
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It could warp the next class or two but ultimately many more schools and players will be named. In the end if college basketball still exists, KU should be fine.
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It’s not good. We may ultimately be happy Langford’s father isn’t looking over every Bill Self coaching decision either. Now Archie’s problem
Also we are actively recruiting a player with red flags everywhere (Charles Bassey) who may try and reclassify to 2018. Something’s gotta give
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BeddieKU23 said:
It’s not good. We may ultimately be happy Langford’s father isn’t looking over every Bill Self coaching decision either. Now Archie’s problem
Also we are actively recruiting a player with red flags everywhere (Charles Bassey) who may try and reclassify to 2018. Something’s gotta give
I really don’t like going after Bassey as stated before. It’s just not a good look.
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It looks really bad, I see no other way around that. Should have known better to expect recruiting tactics to completely change. We have to get away from these kids with eligibility issues
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@BeddieKU23 It’s kind of a stunning lack of awareness from Self.
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If daddy Langford is to be believed, the FBI probe did hurt KU and it can can truly claim now victim status. The longer the investigation goes, the more damage it causes and even if KU and other schools are found to be fully innocent, the damage will be considerably and long lasting.
Most posters in this forum are probably too young to remember Ray Donovan, who was Secretary of labor under Regan and was accused by the State of New York.of fraud along with other executives of his construction and other firms and had to resign his cabinet position. The jury deliberated a few hours and found them innocent in the first ballot and then stood and applauded when the accused stood up to celebrate. Afterwards he famously said…’‘The question is, should this indictment have ever been brought? Which office do I go to to get my reputation back? Who will reimburse my company for the economic jail it has been in for two and a half years?’'
Will KU representatives be issuing a similar statement in a few weeks or months? Once the name is out there, it is difficult to remove the associated stigma. Even if KU is found to be completely innocent, the smell related to the implication will linger for along time and will be used by rival programs to impeach KU.
In any case, sounds like daddy Langford is a helicopter dad and will be a new version of Carl Henry which was a thorn in the coaches’ side even when he was an alumnus; maybe KU dodged a bullet on this one. The entire announcement makes me think how classy Wiggins announcement was.
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I don’t really care how it looks. Go get talent. You all want to win and win big? Go get guys who are legit. We aren’t going to compete with the Duke/UK/UNC’s of the world by only going after squeaky clean dudes.
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The same could be said for many of the players pulled into this because of the actions of third parties, possibly without their knowledge.
I don’t worry too much about parents being involved. That means they care. It’s better to have parents that give a crap than parents that are nowhere to be found.
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@HighEliteMajor See But I wouldn’t understand the sanctions part though. - - Any sanctions that landed on KU would more likely then not wouldn’t be enforced till AFTER Romeo’s one year cameo appearance was over with - so why should he worry about any sanctions? - I don’t know.
Like I said before though we were fine before Romeo - -and were fine today and tomorrow and next year not like the only upper tier player we have missed on and won’t be the last. - It’s gonna be ok I think. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Boy I sure don’t know about Bassey. - -Good player but flags , flags , flags , - -exactly what is the poison that is surrounding this guy? - Is that people are just speculating of bad things because of the Worm at Western Kentucky? - or is it something else? - -I he has legit concerns then we need to Run and Run as fast as we can run. - we need to put a stop to these iffy players. Coach must think they will be o with him. - -Big flag is you don’t really see any of the other blue bloods really recruiting him
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BeddieKU23 said:
It looks really bad, I see no other way around that. Should have known better to expect recruiting tactics to completely change. We have to get away from these kids with eligibility issues
Thank you.-- EXACTLY my feeling. - -seems like these last three four years - -always something.Would be nice to be able to have at least one peaceful recruiting season.
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Double edged sword with “go getting talent”
Billy luckily never played but his issues were known. Turns out he had more then we thought
Still KU’s name gets dragged through the mud. It looks bad no matter what.
Bassey should have a stay clear sign on him. Duke, Kentucky- they are not knocking on his door. Says something
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jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
It looks really bad, I see no other way around that. Should have known better to expect recruiting tactics to completely change. We have to get away from these kids with eligibility issues
Thank you.-- EXACTLY my feeling. - -seems like these last three four years - -always something.Would be nice to be able to have at least one peaceful recruiting season.
Doesn’t seem possible. 2018 has been mostly. Still not convinced that door is closed
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@JayHawkFanToo Wish I could upvote your statement a Quadzillion times
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BeddieKU23 said:
Double edged sword with “go getting talent”
Billy luckily never played but his issues were known. Turns out he had more then we thought
Still KU’s name gets dragged through the mud. It looks bad no matter what.
Bassey should have a stay clear sign on him. Duke, Kentucky- they are not knocking on his door. Says something
Same with Preston tbh. He was a top 20 recruit and KU was competing with Indiana, Syracuse and USC for him…
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Double edged sword with “go getting talent”
Billy luckily never played but his issues were known. Turns out he had more then we thought
Still KU’s name gets dragged through the mud. It looks bad no matter what.
Bassey should have a stay clear sign on him. Duke, Kentucky- they are not knocking on his door. Says something
Same with Preston tbh. He was a top 20 recruit and KU was competing with Indiana, Syracuse and USC for him…
Even Diallo didn’t have as many heavy hitters in it. Cliff as well.
I’m just stunned we are recruiting Bassey no matter if the rumors on him are false. Playing with fire.
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@FarmerJayhawk So you are saying recruit the top notch talent no matter what the consequences is no matter what? - Just use the I’ll be dam approach. - - -Let’s take the glory today for the possible consequences tomorrow -The throw all caution to the wind right?
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BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
It looks really bad, I see no other way around that. Should have known better to expect recruiting tactics to completely change. We have to get away from these kids with eligibility issues
Thank you.-- EXACTLY my feeling. - -seems like these last three four years - -always something.Would be nice to be able to have at least one peaceful recruiting season.
Doesn’t seem possible. 2018 has been mostly. Still not convinced that door is closed
Just when it looked like things were on a good track too… Might be a struggle to keep perceived locks in 19, time will tell.
At this point just keep Jacobs, add Harvey, JRE and another big.
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jayballer73 said:
@BeddieKU23 Boy I sure don’t know about Bassey. - -Good player but flags , flags , flags , - -exactly what is the poison that is surrounding this guy? - Is that people are just speculating of bad things because of the Worm at Western Kentucky? - or is it something else? - -I he has legit concerns then we need to Run and Run as fast as we can run. - we need to put a stop to these iffy players. Coach must think they will be o with him. - -Big flag is you don’t really see any of the other blue bloods really recruiting him
2016 ruled ineligible to play in Texas. Eligibility issues started there.
"Two years later, Bassey came to Louisville. He’s now 6 feet, 10 inches and scoring more than 20 points per game as a junior for Aspire Academy, a prep school in its second year of existence and first in Louisville."
Has a guardian- those haven’t been working out too well lately. His guardian has some financial issues that will be a nightmare for the NCAA.
After Bassey led St. Anthony to a 32-win season as a freshman, The Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools declared Bassey and teammates ineligible the following November. The ruling was tied to improper financial benefits and “sponsorship by a charitable organization for tuition, room and board,” according to the San Antonio Express-News.
“We didn’t know anything about that,” Auriantal said. “I got hired and I brought them with me, like any parent, any family would do. I didn’t do anything different than a regular parent would have done. It just went out from proportion.”
Auriantal’s Yes II Success was registered as a nonprofit organization but had its nonprofit status revoked on May 15, 2017, for “failure to file a Form 990-series return or notice for three consecutive years,” according to the Internal Revenue Service’s database.
Last year, a Bexar County, Texas, judge awarded Auriantal and his wife custody of Bassey, according to the Express-News.
This past summer, soon after an investigative Express-News story detailing Bassey’s road to San Antonio, Auriantal was fired from his position at St. Anthony.
Debra Del Toro, communications director for the University of The Incarnate Word, which runs St. Anthony, did not return a call by Courier Journal for this story.
Auriantal’s exit in July spawned a rapid search for a new school to welcome Bassey and his St. Anthony teammates, which led them to Aspire.
“Jeremy (Kipness) is a good person. That’s all we’re looking for, a good person. From there, the relationship grew," Auriantal said. "… Basketball is just a sport. Go out there and play. But the person, that’s what got us in the door.”
Kipness said it was like if the players came to a Kentucky High School Atheltic Association school and wanted to play. “They wouldn’t be eligible. There’s rules in place for a reason, but a lot of times it kind of hinders and hurts the kids,” he said.
“I think they’re in an environment now where they’re able to really develop and grow without worrying about any of those outside noises,” Kipness said.
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Aspire Academy is shady af.
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BShark said:
Aspire Academy is shady af.
His guardian as well.
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@BeddieKU23 OH LORD - -WHY? - WHY are we messing with somebody like this? - - JUMPIN - - -GEE - -HOSSIE - - TOADS --what the hell is going on, surely we can do better then go after recruits such as this
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Wish I had the answer. Is their an ask Self hotline?
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@BeddieKU23 Maybe we need to get one established - -and soon lol
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It only makes any sense for 18. In 19 just go after Dante if he reclasses, Kofi Cockburn if not.
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Bassey is originally from Nigeria. He has a guardian as most every foreign kid that comes to the US would have. Not necessarily a sign of improper actions. The other issues give pause for sure though.
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justanotherfan said:
Bassey is originally from Nigeria. He has a guardian as most every foreign kid that comes to the US would have. Not necessarily a sign of improper actions. The other issues give pause for sure though.
Of course not every guardian causes an issue for their players.
We seem to have a high batting average for finding the one’s that do. I’m shocked we are even in the game for these types with what’s going on
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Didn’t Skal Labissiere had a similar guardian and similar issues? It did not seem to affect his year at UK.