Bruce Weber: Still Employed Somehow, Probably Because KSU Doesn't Have An AD
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Weber is a desperate man at a desperate program that will grab whatever they can to salvage what pride they possess, which isn’t much. This is a really sad commentary to his pathetic career. He only dreams of wearing Bill Self’s ties. Also, they will never live the AFH loss down. They will play that to the bitter end. Yet they lose again in Bramalage. I’m so sick of KSucks excuses for losing to KU.
It appears Weber’s time at KSuck is coming to an end. Why would you go on a senseless tirade to defend your coaching for the year? He is truly the bottom of the B12 coaching list after this and it appears most KSuck fans agree.
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@truehawk93 It sounded like Chris Beard was plugging for Weber a bit. Its truly SAD when someone has to beg for their job in public like that.
I actually felt uncomfortable for Weber’s own pride to have to read that shameless plug.
Quit running off your players, Bruce!
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Now that KSU AD Currie has left, lets see what happens…
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@ralster What pride?
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@dylans good point, he may not have any left…
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@ralster said:
@truehawk93 It sounded like Chris Beard was plugging for Weber a bit. Its truly SAD when someone has to beg for their job in public like that.
Beard was plugging? defending? justifying? Where was this “plugging”?
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Another one of your good posts. But I’m not sure I would say Marshall can’t recruit. I believe he has 3 players in the league now. What decent prospect wants to go to WSU? It’s not even like a real university atmosphere. Another thing… WSU is starting to recruit better players. We don’t want to go to sleep on these guys.
I’m not one that just hates WSU because they are WSU. I don’t hate WSU. I like good basketball in our state so I support all our schools to do well. That’s just me. I’ve actually had a good time watching the Shockers once in a while. They hustle and they build team synergy with their hustle. I wish we had more of that type of synergy. It helps them perform to the top of their capabilities.
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Honestly he has a good eye for talent all things considered.
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A few openings this year. Will be tough to get a new coach at KSU.
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Lets understand one thing - there are no awards for degree of difficulty in coaching.
What I mean is, so what if Weber almost wins with 3 stars against 5 stars. This is D1 basketball. You’re in a major conference. You should be recruiting 4 star players. That simple.
Look at the ESPN 100 for basketball recruits. Look at where some of those players have signed:
VCU, Miami, Iowa, Illinois, Butler, Virginia Tech, Western Kentucky, Xavier, Colorado, Cal, Creighton, Seton Hall, Auburn, St. Louis, Arizona St., Arkansas.
If you can’t recruit against that level of schools, you shouldn’t be in a major conference. The A-10 is on that list, lower level ACC teams, lower level Pac-12, lower level SEC, Sun Belt, Big East, lower level Big 10. The fact that Weber can’t get 4 star players is, in itself, a knock on him. It’s his fault he isn’t getting a higher rated (and more talented) players. Recruiting is part of the job and he’s just not good enough at it to be at a major conference school.
Weber has brought a midmajor approach to a major conference.and that is going to limit his success.
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The Creighton commit is Mitch Ballock from Kansas, and he wasn’t interested in KSU. I wish him well there, he just wants to play as soon as possible and that wasn’t going to happen at KU.
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Ballock actually isn’t ranked in the top 100.
The Creighton player is another SG, Ty-Shon Alexander from North Carolina. Creighton likely has two players ranked higher than anyone that KSU will sign for next season - so far KSU has signed a 2-star player and two unrated players, and has a pair of three stars considering, as well as another unrated player.
Compare that to Creighton, which has signed two four stars, and has another four star considering them, as well as a couple of three stars.
Weber is recruiting like he is still at a midmajor. Sometimes those guys hit, which can lead to a strong season, other times they miss and you end up in the middle or at the bottom of the conference.
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Guess it depends on the site you use. Just noticed you said ESPN. Personally I would consider Ballock top 100 and would have been a very good player for KSU.
Notice that Weber seems to have amnesia regarding his horrible seasons when listing off his accomplishments in the article. Hmm. Wonder if they can cure that?
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Doubtful. Weber’s amnesia is a choice, not an accident.
It looks like Ballock is considered just off the top 100 (I believe he was ranked in the 90s at one point last year). He’s the 26th rated SG and the 25th rated SG is ranked 94. Either way, he’s much better than anyone KSU has incoming.
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Definitely Ballock has dropped since the Injury that took away an important AAU stretch for him. He’s definitely a better prospect than anything KSU has signed in the last 4-5 years easily.
Alexander is going to be a really nice piece for Creighton. He’s teammates with Preston, Wigginton, Coleman (all headed to the Big-12) at Oak Hill and has been a steady part of that powerhouse for the last few years.
I think they are also the favorite to land a 4 star big man Epperson at this point. A development type big that needs to change his body but could be a pretty good player by year 3-4.
Creighton has done well recruiting. Justin Patton is a program changing recruit as he’s being mocked in the Lottery, possibly Top 10 for the draft. The McDermott to Patton to ? effect has them competing for good talent these days.
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There is no doubt right now. Creighton is a better job than KSU.
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Creighton is located in a much bigger city than KSU and plays in the Big East that is a major basketball conference. Also, being a smaller, private, Catholic school might be attractive to the prospect’s parents. At this time, no question that it is a more desirable destination than KSU and MU.
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The Big East is major-ish at this point. Ain’t what she used to be that’s for sure.
I completely agree with the rest though. I don’t know how much they play the religion angle compared to Drew at Baylor, but it could definitely be a factor for some recruits. Oh and no doubt Omaha >>>>>> Manhattan.
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Which can be attributed to having a better coach!
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The Big East is ranked #3 after the Big 12 and ACC according to Sagarin and Massey and home of the defending champion and predicted to send 7 teams to the dance matching the all time percentage record set by the Bi 12…pretty major in my book.
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If you barely play football, you are major-ish. Football drives everything.
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@BShark said:
Ain’t what she used to be that’s for sure.
Still doing really well but not that monster it was. Especialy after it disintegrated by losing Syracuse, UConn, and even Pitt.
Just like the Big 12 was really reduced in strength by losing Mizzou…HAHAHAHAHA!!!
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The Big East does not play football Division I at all so you cannot hold it against it. In basketball they are without any doubt a major conference. Remember, we are talking basketball…
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John Scheyer was coached in High School by Bruce Webers brother. Slam dunk easy recruit for Bruce Weber, right? As you all know John Scheyer went to Duke.
Think of all the talent to come out of Illinois during Bruce Webers tenure. How many went to U of I?
Derrick Rose, Anthony Davis, Patrick Beverly, Wayne Blackshear, Sherron Collins, Evan Turner,
The residual effect has cost them Jahlil Okafor, Cliff Alexander, Jabari Parker among others.
Unfortunately his weakness as a coach cost Illinois a lot of wins over the years. The few top recruits he did get were head cases like Jerome Richmond and Brandon Paul. Meyers Leonard blossomed in the NBA after he left the U of I.
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i was in shock to hear that K-State’s AD up and decided to run off Frank Martin. I can remember when the Wildcats clobbered my guys in NCAA tourney play, when my guys were favored. Martin installed a choking Defense and a inside game using a couple of athletic forwards to put up some nice numbers. I thought the guy overall was excellent in getting all his guys had in them. South Carolina seemed like a weird match for Martin, however his guys are playing in the Final Four… Bruce Weber isn’t my favorite Big 12 coach, reading his recent comments he acts like a victim… Few coaches are willing to open up about their job status, sounds like another case of ego’s, Weber and his AD) being so large they can fit into the same university. You have a beautiful thing going on with Bill Self although I can recall bizarre losses to Buck Ellen, Bradley, Northern Iowa in tourney play as well as great wins. He is easily one of the five best coaches in college basketball. You can’t spend as many weeks as the #1 without incredible recruiting, he has done that.
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Gee thanks loads Spell Check for spitting out Bucknell replacing it with Buck Ellen, which sounds like the name of a prostitute in the 1850’s Old West, who had a heart of gold.
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@LighteningLou said:
Gee thanks loads Spell Check for spitting out Bucknell replacing it with Buck Ellen, which sounds like the name of a prostitute in the 1850’s Old West, who had a heart of gold.
When I read that, I thought it was a really clever way to not say the name of those who we hate to mention… I immediately thought you had restrained from going to the next step: Buck-Nellen (or BuckNaked). Then I realized it was too hard to come up with anything for the others… Badly, No Thorn Was and Villain over.
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Serious signs of mental illness or mental breakdown.
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Thread re-purposed. Another year of Bruce!
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Perhaps extending Bruce Weber justifies their hiring of minorities and majorities in other sports?
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Bring Tex Winter back.
