Kansas vs West Virginia
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Sure wish we’d practiced more pressing
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@cragarhawk 2 games in a row
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Damn look at Vick get to the rim and actually put it in.
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@DinarHawk I’m not waiting!
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If 11-12 PTS is our worst loss, we’ll be ok
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We’ve made exactly 10 2 pt shots the entire game. That’s hard to do - or not do - or whatever.
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Bill has been Hugged.
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Let’s see what was going on tonight. I’m sure Self will announce that someone was playing either sick or gimped, maybe Frank? It appears Self is beginning to look like one of the worst game prep coaches in D1 bball. He just can’t make enough adjustments to turn a losing game into a winner.
KU just got EXPOSED…AGAIN. So much for a #1 ranking. Great game all around guys. I’ve never seen a loss quite like this one.
Where are all the big mouths that were bashing WVU? Give them credit…they did what they said they would do. KU was not prepared at all. They deserve to lose and they definitely do not deserve the #1 ranking.
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Bragg boosts his 3 pt %
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Bragg = point center!
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Why wait 30 seconds to foul if you are gonna foul.
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Well, our 3 PT % is actually going up!
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Screw playing Bragg inside. Svi sits and Bragg takes over Svi’s role!!!
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@truehawk93 I agree. Zone would have been perfect. No one wants to believe me, but this one is on Self.
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Oh no!
Not a court storming
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West Virginia fans prove the didn’t deserve to be #1
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They deserved to lose that game they played like garbage from start to finish for the most part just dumb sloppy boneheaded plays all game. WVU gave them the business
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Well crap, my bad. I won’t let it happen ever again.
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They deserve to storm. Let them storm. I want the guys to feel this agony and remember it all the way to the tourney.
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@truehawk93 a lot of it is because he wants to do everything one way.
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WVU is a very good team.
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Perry is the most positive takeaway from this game. He is the man.
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KU got kicked right square in the balls tonight and cowered in the fetal position instead of getting pissed off and fighting back, other than Perry Ellis who earned his man card tonight.
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@jaybate-1.0 Always have and always will with Huggie at the controls.
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@jaybate-1.0 we also helped them quite a bit
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Damn I need a Banjo and a jug.
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We’ve got a new rival
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Am atleast happy I won’t have to hear anymore “undefeated in the lil12 this year” bs anymore. Idk who ever would have thought that to begin with. And yes. Nights like tonight are the reason why some say this still looks like the team that lost second round to Wichita state.
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Small locker room
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@DinarHawk Put it in perspective, chalk it up to exp, & move on. Face it we’re due…Haven’t lost in 2 months… If you’d told me after MSU we wouldn’t lose for the next 2 months Ida been happy as a puppy with 2 flippin peters. No such thing as a good loss, but it’s only 1 loss.Huggs get the beer, Beechnut, & a briefcase of bus tokens-so what? Not the end of the world. They’ll be 10-12 guys that want to blame Self, but we played like krap & couldn’t hit a FT to save our lives…I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be TCU visiting AFH this weekend. As many armchair Dr Naismith’s we have that post here, someone will want to stir up the smack pot & call Self on the carpet-hell they may even want HEM as a coach-I dunno. But let me know who does cause I’ve got some really damn fine horses to sell…They ain’t been born yet but you can believe me …if ya want to…aw come on…he, he…
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Geez, their locker room is smaller than Self’s office
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Yup.
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KU needs to work on its cardio.
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I posted earlier that 5-4 on the road might win the conference…some other poster thought I was dead wrong…hhhmmm…maybe not that wrong after all…
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It’s an out house and it’s all Huggy’s big game plan to psyche KU off the court. It apparently worked. Well, they get to come to our house now. Maybe the guys will decide to play and take this team seriously. Every single B12 team is going to punch them in the mouth and gut every single game.
Where are the Twins when you need them? It makes me appreciate their mean streaks.
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If Mason and Selden both play like tonight, we’re not even average!
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@globaljaybird I know that losses happen, but it is the way we lose. Looked like the WSU game. These guys crumple when even a little pressure is applied. This team will not make the final four if they play panicked from pressure. Coach has to work with them because it is a toughness thing.
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@jaybate-1.0 WVU is a good team, and a loss on the road to a good team in conference certainly isn’t the end of the world. Would have been mildly (but pleasantly) surprised to come out with a W. But, it’s the manner of loss that is so vexing. It’s not like they shot the lights out or played that well - it’s more that we played very poorly - and not very smart. Didn’t seem to be any adjustments to what they were doing. We should have packed it inside and made them make a few outside shots - never did anything to stop their dribble penetration and pick up a lot of cheap fouls.
The question is whether anything is really learned from this…
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That was/is the textbook example of how to lose. Didn’t think they would fail this badly on FTs and TOs though. No nights off from here on out.
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well, we weren’t going to go undefeated in the conference. Our ‘best backcourt in the nation’ can’t possibly play worse than this.
this too shall pass.
On to the next game. The road to #12 and Final Four is still well-lit for us.
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Does Huggins still get a bonus for beating us?
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@chriz yep
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Why not just call me out?? You know you’re were talking about me. Hey dude I’m a KU homer and will never predict KU losing a game.
Man you’ve got issues. You rather KU lose so you can be right? Wow Dude. Not me I’ll gladly be wrong about anything as long as KU wins. Yet that is just the kind of fan I am.
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I hope Bill schedules a team that presses like that twice a year to prep the Jayhawks for the tournament. Oh wait, they’re in the big 12, it’s been taken care of.
Will KU be scared of heighth? No, the Anteaters have been conquered. Also great scheduling.
Will KU handle a zone? Yup, looked good against the two different zone teams played so far.
Is the sky falling after one loss? Not yet, besides its my fault for setting foot in Manhattan on gameday. The Jayhawks and Bill Self had nothing to do with this loss.
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@DinarHawk Maybe this will be our ugly loss of the year?
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@DCHawker exactly. Coach has to do a little self reflection, man up, and admit he himself could do better. We should have won this game. WVU is not a good offensive team and we made them look like a title contender.
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@DinarHawk How does a zone defense change KU getting their ass kicked on the glass and cut down on KU’s turnovers? Those were the two differences tonight. The two biggest weaknesses of playing a zone defense are giving up better 3 point looks (WVU shot 25% from outside so would not have been an issue tonight) and getting fewer defensive rebounding and considering WVU finished with 15 offensive boards, that number would’ve been higher had KU gone to zone and KU likely loses by more.
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@JayHawkFanToo I still don’t think 4-5 losses on the road will win the big 12.
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Yeah our defense was weak, especially late in the game. We played them too close on the perimeter. I’d rather them beat us with the 3 than driving the ball down our throats.
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We lost the game by turning the ball over, letting them get dribble penetration, and by fouling too much. Even subtracting the 10 or so they scored at the line when we put them there on purpose, they still outscored us by 10 or so at the line. Heck, back off of them and let them beat us from the outside. Only Carter, I think, has proven the ability to hit the 3. Obviously, it is hard to win with 20 or more turnovers.
